BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-16-2006, 11:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Boston
Model: 8100
Carrier: T-Mo
Posts: 16
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Is a Blackberry a Blackberry a Blackberry?

Please Login to Remove!

Howdy folks,

Brand new to Smartphones in general and Blackberries in particular. Been lurking on the forums for a few weeks now and just been monkeying around with my 8100 trying to get used to it. Lots of great information here and my head's still swimming trying to make heads or tails of all of it..

Anyway, I am the system admin of a large mail server in my company and have been using BIS to retrieve messages from it successfully. My company also has a bunch number of Exchange servers for their 'corporate' environment and use at least a couple BES servers. I decided to contact one of our Exchange engineers to see if I couldn't also sign onto the BES servers but was told that they will not allow any T-Mobile wireless devices and that I should switch to Cingular, Verizon or Sprint. (none of which have signal coverage at my house)

Is there anything different with T-Mobile devices that would preclude their use on a BES server? or is my IT department simply being difficult'?

Thanks for any info!
Mike
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 11:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
gsxr150's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Model: 8100
Carrier: Sprint
Posts: 194
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

They're all the same -- in short. However each company my follow different rules of setting up users.
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 11:38 AM   #3 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
MythmbHurts's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New York City
Model: 8100
Posts: 642
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

why would T-mobile offer a seperate BES blackbery plan then? Makes no sence to me
__________________
PIN:204D7C8C - USE THE SEARCH BUTTON!!!!
Yahoo: Whips_n_licks
Email:whips_n_licks@yahoo.com-Don't email me unless you searched!!
BB 8100 4.2.0.69
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 11:49 AM   #4 (permalink)
Retired BlackBerryForums.com Moderator
 
d_fisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Model: 9700
OS: SID 6.7
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 4,455
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MythmbHurts
why would T-mobile offer a seperate BES blackbery plan then? Makes no sence to me
The BES BlackBerry data plan from T-Mobile/Cingular is the same as the BlackBerry data plan from Verizon/Sprint/Nextel. The T-Mobile/Cingular consumer data plan removes the ability for the ability to communicate with a BES server. It makes it cheaper for consumers to get a BlackBerry. Not sure why the others don't offer it too.
__________________
Doug

Remember, please try searching first!

Need a screenshot? ... Like JavaLoader?
Try using BBscreen .....Use JL_Cmder!
or BBScreenShooter!

[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 11:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
Grumpy Moderator
 
NJBlackBerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: i5s
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 27,796
Post Thanks: 33
Thanked 441 Times in 381 Posts
Default

Your IT department is being difficult. BES is device and carrier independent.
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 12:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Boston
Model: 8100
Carrier: T-Mo
Posts: 16
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry
Your IT department is being difficult. BES is device and carrier independent.
Thanks for all the responses guys. I kind of figured as much, given the way my Corp. IT department works.


Mike
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 01:48 PM   #7 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
mrpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NY
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 328
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Not sure but our company, a fairly large international company changed their attitude towards TMO after a bunch of successful attacks on their network and there had been some bad press public and enterprise, IT mags and such, that didn't make their security look too good in any light compared to the other carriers.

I know when I wanted to get a phone and I had the options of Verizon, Sprint and TMO as my company's relationship with em gets me a nice discount. I decided on TMO because their plan prices are the lowest and I get close to identical coverage in areas I frequent as I do on VZW. When I told 2 IT guys about my gmail being setup on my new Pearl they both almost shouted "now your password is wide open" and began warning me about not keeping sensitive info in my gmail as its my main personal email account now, etc etc...

Maybe they had a point, I dunno but who am I that some hacker will pick me out of the thousands of customers...

Last edited by mrpg : 10-16-2006 at 01:51 PM.
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 01:52 PM   #8 (permalink)
Grumpy Moderator
 
NJBlackBerry's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere in the swamps of Jersey
Model: i5s
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 27,796
Post Thanks: 33
Thanked 441 Times in 381 Posts
Default

The "attacks" were against Sidekick Danger servers. Which are NOT on T-Mobile's network.

I think you got some bad information there. Very bad information.

If anyone has information on T-Mobile's network getting hacked and into people's BlackBerry e-mail account (WHICH ARE ON SERVERS RUN BY RIM) please post them.

Until then, I believe the people who told you that are incorrect.
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 02:02 PM   #9 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
mrpg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NY
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 328
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry
Until then, I believe the people who told you that are incorrect.
Ya know I figured... but I wasn't equip'd with any knowledge to argue with em. I think I'm gonna make it a point now to see those two and pull a "oh by the way" ... you're both wrong.

Thanks for the clear up.
Offline  
Old 10-16-2006, 11:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
phungy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Gainesville/Sarasota/NYC
Model: iFone
OS: OSX
Carrier: AT&Tô
Posts: 924
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I haven't owned a blackberry before...purchased mine about 40 hours ago and I love it! But I already scratched the battery (don't know how). I already ordered a case and screen guards but they come in Wed. -waits impatiently-
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright © 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM © and BlackBerry © are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.