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Old 11-24-2006, 12:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It appears the standby mode does not completely lock the keyboard. If the red End/Power key is pressed down for 4 seconds, it exits the standby mode. I'm running the 4.2.0.64 software version. Are the other software versions affected by this flaw ?
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Old 11-24-2006, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I think this behavior was introduced with 4.2.0.64. Prior to that, the 8100 keyboard would would lock after being in stand-by mode for a period of time.

I'm not sure if either behavior would be considered "defective", but just a change now.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmmm. Seems there still isn't a way to keep this phone in your pocket and prevent the keyboard from accidentally affecting itself.
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Old 11-24-2006, 02:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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what can't you use "Keyboard Lock".

works for me
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Old 11-24-2006, 03:03 PM   #5 (permalink)
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"Keyboard lock" has issues too. If the red End/Power key gets accidentally pressed for 4 seconds, the phone will turn off. If the "#" button accidentally gets pressed for 3 seconds, it will change to vibrate mode, or if it was in vibrate mode, it will change back to the original mode. I can see this happening to people in movie theaters.
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i think some people just figet WAY too much
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WAYYYY too much. If it gets that much action in a pocket, I suggest a holster or case.
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This phone is small enough to be kept in the pocket. That's one of the selling points and how most people will be probably be carrying it. They need to design the keyboard lock/standby feature like the other phone manufactures and truly 'lock' the keyboard. Why have a keyboard lock/standby mode if a simple accidental press of one key on the keyboard changes something ?

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Old 11-24-2006, 03:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I had my phone in my pocket all day today (since 3 am...black friday shopping) and everytime I put it in my pocket, I put it on standby. Not once did it "accidentally" come off standby, so almost 12 hours of constant movement.
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i use key pad lock all the time
and i keep my phone in my pocket all day
i have the .64 t-mobile os and it never comes off lock
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Seems like other people have been having this issue:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ight=turn+lock
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What exactly does Standby mode do compared to using a password lock or just being off ?

I need to be alerted to all call/sms/emails and IM's when they are received so I use the password protection and I get all the audio and visual alerts.

In Standby do you still receive all these or is it really just the same as being off ?
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In Standby do you still receive all these or is it really just the same as being off ?
yes, you still receive all notifications for new email, sms messages, incoming calls, etc.
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What is the difference then b/w Standby and keyboard lock?
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The difference is that in Standby, nothing will light up the screen but the Mute key. This way, you dont have to hit "* + Send" to unlock it.

In keylock, every key press will light up the screen.

I use standby and have never had a problem.
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i just checked my Pearl, on .67 OS, the End/Power button turns the phone off in Keyboard Lock mode...so I guess it has that "bug" too

Not a problem for me, I carry it in my holster...and in "Holstered" mode, it does NOT turn off when the End/Power key is pressed.
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The difference is that in Standby, nothing will light up the screen but the Mute key. This way, you dont have to hit "* + Send" to unlock it.

In keylock, every key press will light up the screen.

I use standby and have never had a problem.
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I had exactly the same question.

Wonderful answer!

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The difference is that in Standby, nothing will light up the screen but the Mute key. This way, you dont have to hit "* + Send" to unlock it.

In keylock, every key press will light up the screen.

I use standby and have never had a problem.
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This phone is small enough to be kept in the pocket. That's one of the selling points and how most people will be probably be carrying it. They need to design the keyboard lock/standby feature like the other phone manufactures and truly 'lock' the keyboard. Why have a keyboard lock/standby mode if a simple accidental press of one key on the keyboard changes something ?
I have version 4.2.0.71 with at&t...and in order for this keyboard to be unlocked, not only do I have to have a button pushed, but the Dial and */SYM keys have to be pushed at the same exact time. I've been carring this in my pocket for a week now, and this scenario has not happened yet.
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I have version 4.2.0.71 with at&t...and in order for this keyboard to be unlocked, not only do I have to have a button pushed, but the Dial and */SYM keys have to be pushed at the same exact time. I've been carring this in my pocket for a week now, and this scenario has not happened yet.
Thats because you are using keyboard lock and they are talking about standby mode.
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