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Default 12-15-2006, 08:15 PM

delete the vendor.xml....you have to delete it every time you install new software.
   
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I don't use myfaves so this is just a stab in the dark but try Options >Advanced Options >Host Routing Table >click the Pearl and select Register Now. This brings back most apps like that.
Thanks. It actually came back on it's own about 4 hours later. I just went to tmobile.com and changed the name of a myfave and updated it, but that didn't work right away. Not sure if that did it or not, it was just there later when i looked.

The other problem I am having is ramble and opera no longer work. They both worked fine before the update...I went back in and set my TCP setting to wap.voicestream.com with no user/pass. Tried reinstalling the apps and leaving the battery out but they still wont connect. Everything else works fine though. I noticed some other post with the same problem but nothing has worked so far.
   
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Default 12-16-2006, 01:39 PM

reception is better with .69 over .67 When I went to .67 I noticed I didn't have reception in certain areas on tmobile. Now I have reception back in those areas.
   
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reception is better with .69 over .67 When I went to .67 I noticed I didn't have reception in certain areas on tmobile. Now I have reception back in those areas.
How can this be?

For me, reception is a fickle thing - even on my Nokia (which I consider to have the best RF). Personally, I don't care if it shows 1 bar or 5 bars as long as reception is clean enough to communicate. For about the past month, Tmo access in my area has sucked. Nearly overnight, it improved or at least went back to what I would call normal.

My upgrade to .67 did improve my battery life. I now recharge every 3rd night, and could most likely go to 4 full days. In the past, I recharged every 2nd night. Other than that, there were no changes or improvements on my unit.
   
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Default just my thoughts - 12-16-2006, 07:41 PM

I came over from a treo650.

I am very happy with the response from BB about items, at least they correct things from phone to phone. This was non-existant from Treo

I dont understand a lot of the things you guys and gals are chatting about, but i can always look it up.

think my phone came with this upgrade thanks all and have a merry christmas
   
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I was told by our RIM friends that the Cingular os is not the upgraded version. I was told that another SW release similar to the T-Mobile one will be available at a later time. Yippie
   
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after i updated to this new version, my camera started to be all pink. when i turn the camera the whole screen is pinkish. any ideas?
   
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I was deleting it before I installed the handheld software not AFTER

Updating as I type now (on my main PC)
Happy as can be so far

I do wish there was a way to turn off auto-dimming but its still a cool OS on a cool device
   
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Default 12-17-2006, 04:26 PM

So far, I have noticed that the processor seems a little quicker than in .67 (not the lag when looking at thumbnails etc). Other than that, haven't noticed much by way of improvement. Phone still jams up when someone calls if you have it in standby rather than keylock mode, so that issue hasn't been addressed yet.
   
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Default 12-17-2006, 05:39 PM

they change the radio code in the OS upgrades so thats how reception can vary from OS to OS. I think in my personal brain that my t-mobile reception is a little worse with this OS than .67 but i could just be seeing things.. remember even though every OS will work on the pearl some codes are provider specific like radio codes and such...


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I was told by our RIM friends that the Cingular os is not the upgraded version. I was told that another SW release similar to the T-Mobile one will be available at a later time. Yippie

this is an upgrade for us original 8100 owner from September when the pearl first came with 4.2.0.42 any OS that has a higher number than that would be an OS upgrade to me. Now for the new cingular owners you have the highest OS that is out to date right now lucky you!


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Default 12-17-2006, 08:54 PM

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...Now for the new cingular owners you have the highest OS that is out to date right now lucky you!
Maybe, but I can't tell any diff in my Cing 8100 and Tmo 8100 with their official .64.
   
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Default 12-18-2006, 09:53 AM

A dash of perspective on the "overpriced" software comments...

I've been writing software professionally for 14 years. In the last 4 or 5, we as an industry are getting bashed left and right by people who are convinced that - irrespective of how many hours we spend coding, testing, debugging and polishing something - because it's software, it should be either dirt cheap or free. Some people are making free software, and everyone else downloads it for free over KaZaa... why can't we just make all software free? (And while we're at it, can we all hold hands and sing Kum-bay-yah???)

Yes, some people philanthropically create free software products. My hat is off to them; they must either be coding in their free time or working for a non-profit. That doesn't mean the rest of us are greedy for wanting to get paid for our work. My time is worth money just like every other professional's time. If I do development work for someone else I expect to be compensated for my time and effort.

Yes, I sometimes see software and think it's overpriced. I've seen utilities that cause a light on a device to blink or not blink. Experience tells me that, for an experienced programmer, such a feature is - at most - 5 lines of code and a 10 second test. 2 minutes tops. $10 for that 2 minutes is overpriced for me. For someone who really wants that light to blink, maybe that's fair.

Creating a good word processor with all the trimmings, on the other hand, would take hundreds of hours of work. Why shouldn't a developer charge more for that? $50 for mobile software makes a lot of people cringe, but to me that's by far the fairer price of these two examples because as a developer, I know what went into creating that product... and I believe people deserve fair compensation for their efforts.

Most developers charge extremely fair prices for their work, both in terms of product quality and the time they spent. Truly. The public keeps us honest; no one except the really big guys can get away with outrageous prices, especially given the proliferation of good-quality freeware. In all honesty, most devs who write these mobile apps are giving away more in terms of their own time and energy than they can ever possibly recoup financially. By and large, they're doing it just for the love.

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Default 12-18-2006, 07:28 PM

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A dash of perspective on the "overpriced" software comments...

I've been writing software professionally for 14 years. In the last 4 or 5, we as an industry are getting bashed left and right by people who are convinced that - irrespective of how many hours we spend coding, testing, debugging and polishing something - because it's software, it should be either dirt cheap or free. Some people are making free software, and everyone else downloads it for free over KaZaa... why can't we just make all software free? (And while we're at it, can we all hold hands and sing Kum-bay-yah???)

Yes, some people philanthropically create free software products. My hat is off to them; they must either be coding in their free time or working for a non-profit. That doesn't mean the rest of us are greedy for wanting to get paid for our work. My time is worth money just like every other professional's time. If I do development work for someone else I expect to be compensated for my time and effort.

Yes, I sometimes see software and think it's overpriced. I've seen utilities that cause a light on a device to blink or not blink. Experience tells me that, for an experienced programmer, such a feature is - at most - 5 lines of code and a 10 second test. 2 minutes tops. $10 for that 2 minutes is overpriced for me. For someone who really wants that light to blink, maybe that's fair.

Creating a good word processor with all the trimmings, on the other hand, would take hundreds of hours of work. Why shouldn't a developer charge more for that? $50 for mobile software makes a lot of people cringe, but to me that's by far the fairer price of these two examples because as a developer, I know what went into creating that product... and I believe people deserve fair compensation for their efforts.

Most developers charge extremely fair prices for their work, both in terms of product quality and the time they spent. Truly. The public keeps us honest; no one except the really big guys can get away with outrageous prices, especially given the proliferation of good-quality freeware. In all honesty, most devs who write these mobile apps are giving away more in terms of their own time and energy than they can ever possibly recoup financially. By and large, they're doing it just for the love.

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I'm a hardware and software developer, and although i agree with some of your coments, others are a little stretched.

Firstly, alot of code these days is made with components that are re-used over and over. Its unfair for you to expect people to pay the complete development price for those modules every time you use them in some software.

Secondly, the complexity of a device is roughly directly related to its price. A less complex device is likely to only be able to run fairly un-complex software. That means the more expensive a device, the more complicated software it could run, and the more the software could cost.
That said, the maximum price for software should in general be a certain % of the cost of the device. There simply isn't any justification to price software at prices sometimes more than the cost of the device itself.

Thirdly, yes everyone's time is worth something, and usually free products are unsustainable. However that doesn't mean that you should expect to get what you think your time is worth! Sometimes you will - if your software is good, other times you won't.

To be blunt, the real reason software is overpriced these days has nothing to do with the human hours put into it. Face it, how often do you hear people complain about very well written, very complicated but expensive software?
Software is overpriced for 2 reasons:

1) Simply because you think you can get away with it - for example all the BB software aimed at bunsines. You know full well a company can't download an illegal copy of it, so if they want that functionality they need to pay your price for it, whatever that may be. This works for a while until competition arives and forces you to price more fairly... leading to point 2..
2) You feel that so many people are pirating your software, or that you're simply not selling enough copies because its just not good enough - and you feel the compensate you for the time you put in, you're going to put the price up. This is just a false economy as no one will ever come back to you to buy anything in the future if the software isn't worth what you charge.

I've heard software developers preach this all the time, but face it, its just like any other industry - deal with it and set your prices fairly, or you won't survive very long.
   
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Default 01-02-2007, 11:59 PM

okay i read the whole thread and i found nothing, so plz no1 snap on me for asking this question, i have done many OS upgrades, so i wanted to upgrade to the .69 from .64 but when i open desktop manager and you know how it prompts if i want to upgrade, so i click yes, and the second i push next to continue i get this error : The application "browser" cannot be loaded, because it requires the following applications that are not available: net.rim.blackberry.xml

can anyone help plzz!
   
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okay i read the whole thread and i found nothing, so plz no1 snap on me for asking this question, i have done many OS upgrades, so i wanted to upgrade to the .69 from .64 but when i open desktop manager and you know how it prompts if i want to upgrade, so i click yes, and the second i push next to continue i get this error : The application "browser" cannot be loaded, because it requires the following applications that are not available: net.rim.blackberry.xml

can anyone help plzz!
I think I would reinstall the OS package that you downloaded to the PC, delete "vendor.xml" again and try DM again.
   
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Default 01-03-2007, 01:07 AM

i tried all that out and still the same result! man its soo annoyin!
   
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Default 01-03-2007, 05:43 AM

jmhijazi,

Is it possible that you're deleting the file "net.rim.blackberry.xml" instead of the file "vendor.xml"?
   
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Default 01-03-2007, 10:27 AM

i thought the same thing, then i went back to duble check which file im deleting, and its the vendor, infact i couldent find any of those folder that file to even delete!
   
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Default 01-03-2007, 12:19 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Re download it again and ininstall the other packages and clear your internet files


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Default 01-04-2007, 01:15 PM

I have to update all 3 of my companys devices. Do I need to delete the XML file every time?

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I have to update all 3 of my companys devices. Do I need to delete the XML file every time?

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Yes.
   
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Default Home screen dialing bug still exists - 01-08-2007, 10:12 PM

This is like the 5th revision of the OS and this bug has yet to go away. Quite sad.

Perhaps its never been reported?


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This is like the 5th revision of the OS and this bug has yet to go away. Quite sad.

Perhaps its never been reported?
What "bug" are you referring to?
   
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What "bug" are you referring to?
Home screen dialing. And i think the original report was this thread: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...g#pos t318003


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Oh. They turned that off ON PURPOSE on all of the Suretype devices, from the first 7100 device on down. I don't know why - and I've been complaining since day one. It's not a bug, they tell me. It's a phone first. So no shortcuts on the Home Screen.
   
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Default 01-09-2007, 12:26 AM

I don't have a home screen dialing bug....never have. I've been on .42, .69, and .71.

Edit:....oh, that. Never had it, so I don't miss it I guess.

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see this post for teh issue: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...g#pos t318003


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see this post for teh issue: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...g#pos t318003
I like that feature. I wouldn't consider that a bug.
   
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I like that feature. I wouldn't consider that a bug.
Me too. It makes things a lot easier.


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Default 01-09-2007, 12:38 AM

I don't consider that a bug either!
(Neither one, for that matter) - that's for clarifying that - I was referring to the Dial From Home Screen issue.
   
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I don't consider that a bug either!
(Neither one, for that matter) - that's for clarifying that - I was referring to the Dial From Home Screen issue.
I got used to that from the 8700 which I still use and it confuses me at times. I had the dial from HS shutt off and I was looking hard for it in the pearl untill I read one thread here that it is not an option. learned to live with out it.


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Default 01-09-2007, 12:48 PM

link to the download is dead in the first post, does anyone have .67 or .69???

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hey all. doing my first upgrade here. so far so good, but dang this is one long process. thanks for all the good advice here. <fingers crossed>
   
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success! thanks again all.
   
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Oh. They turned that off ON PURPOSE on all of the Suretype devices, from the first 7100 device on down. I don't know why - and I've been complaining since day one. It's not a bug, they tell me. It's a phone first. So no shortcuts on the Home Screen.

Oh, I love the feature! The issue is that when I use that feature to filter for a name. I type really fast and the phone will then stall and give me a Java exception. Then I have to type the name again and it will pull up. THis happens about 3 out of 10 times. Its really hard to re-produce, since its random.

Do you think this needs to be reported? If so, where can I report such a bug?


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Default 01-09-2007, 06:13 PM

as blackberry removed the link? https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...B8D0F0CDEA38E4
   
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Default 01-09-2007, 09:20 PM

I was able to get in there before and it seems that they took out teh .69 from teh list and this could be the reason why it is having issues.

try this link it just worked for me: https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...E4F82F9F00E7D4


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wrong thread sorry

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