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Old 12-25-2006, 07:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Happy Holidays to all. I am very new to the BB service and this board. This may have been discussed in previous posts so I apologize if it has and I missed it when I ran a search. I transferred some videos over to my BB Pearl and the playback is very choppy. It does not playback smooth at all and takes forever to stop/play/pause, etc... I have a Micro SanDisk 1 GB card if this helps. To make sure it wasn't a file size problem I am having trouble with both a 37MB file and a 3MB file. The video is in .MP4 format. If anyone can give me some feedback on this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

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See the sticky right at the top of this forum, HowTo Video Encoding. You need to transcode your video to be the 'right' format (right == best options for BB hardware) for your handset. I used the settings/methods in that thread and my videos are smooooooth as silk now.
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I did the same thing (I used method 2) because even thought the video played well on my iPod it froze on the Pearl no matter what size (mp4). There are several mp4 formats.
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You did a search and nothing came up? Odd since this has been discussed a zillion times. There is even a sticky on video encoding at the top of this page.

Your problem is that the videos have to be converted into Pearl format. While some extensions might work, until you convert into a Pearl format, playback will be spotty or worse.

Do a search to find the threads that talk about how to convert video. I even have a thread that recommends a program for doing conversions.

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Hi All,
Happy Holidays to all. I am very new to the BB service and this board. This may have been discussed in previous posts so I apologize if it has and I missed it when I ran a search. I transferred some videos over to my BB Pearl and the playback is very choppy. It does not playback smooth at all and takes forever to stop/play/pause, etc... I have a Micro SanDisk 1 GB card if this helps. To make sure it wasn't a file size problem I am having trouble with both a 37MB file and a 3MB file. The video is in .MP4 format. If anyone can give me some feedback on this I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks and Merry Christmas!

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See the sticky right at the top of this forum, HowTo Video Encoding. You need to transcode your video to be the 'right' format (right == best options for BB hardware) for your handset. I used the settings/methods in that thread and my videos are smooooooth as silk now.
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thanks for the reply. I downloaded Mplayer, but I have no idea how to run it or what I need to do to get it going. I am sorry for the basic questions, but when I unzip the file its just a bunch of files and folders. Do I need to load this onto my BB or do I need to run a certain file/folder? What am I missing?
Again, I apologize for such basic questions, but any help would be appreciated.
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Hi,
thanks for the reply. I downloaded Mplayer, but I have no idea how to run it or what I need to do to get it going. I am sorry for the basic questions, but when I unzip the file its just a bunch of files and folders. Do I need to load this onto my BB or do I need to run a certain file/folder? What am I missing?
Again, I apologize for such basic questions, but any help would be appreciated.
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Lou, you are a perfect example of why I say people should use the $15 BlackBerry Video Generator program that I recommend.

How much time have you spent on this now? Yes, one can fool with mencoder and teach one's self how to do all this for free. But if one does not have a clue on how to do it the learning process will take hours. And that's not taking into consideration the frustration.

With that BBVG program all your problems would be solved. With that program you open the video file you want converted and click "start" and it then converts the video into Pearl format.

After that you transfer it to your Pearl video folder.

End of story.

Here is my thread where I talk about it.

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...highlight=bbvg

Bonus Tip: Download some of my sample videos provided in my thread. See if at least those work on your Pearl. If they do, that's half the battle won.

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Lou, you are a perfect example of why I say people should use the $15 BlackBerry Video Generator program that I recommend.

How much time have you spent on this now? Yes, one can fool with mencoder and teach one's self how to do all this for free. But if one does not have a clue on how to do it the learning process will take hours. And that's not taking into consideration the frustration.

With that BBVG program all your problems would be solved. With that program you open the video file you want converted and click "start" and it then converts the video into Pearl format.

After that you transfer it to your Pearl video folder.

End of story.

Here is my thread where I talk about it.



Bonus Tip: Download some of my sample videos provided in my thread. See if at least those work on your Pearl. If they do, that's half the battle resolved.
Thank you very much! I will 100% buy this if it works for me. I have no problems spending a little bit of money to save some time and frustration!

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Thank you very much! I will 100% buy this if it works for me. I have no problems spending a little bit of money to save some time and frustration!
...but before you go wasting your money, if you went through the whole thread you'd see a dude wrapped it all up in a program for you for free that you can download.

www seabyrdtech com / bbvideo

(sorry can't post real URLs yet here) It continues to use mencoder as the actual conversion engine behind the scenes, so you'll get the same quality vids. Besides having a tool that does all the work for you, you'll get the opportunity to look under the hood and learn a little something whenever you have time (or never, as the case may be ).
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Well, I downloaded one of those free programs and it did not work. I posted a pic of the error message and the creator of the program did not get back to me [maybe I pissed him off].

Downloaded the other free program and it would not convert YouTube or Google FLV files.

The $15 program converted all files I threw at it.

Not saying there is anything wrong with the free stuff and hats off to those who put the effort to create the programs and post them on BBF.

But for a measly $15 he can get a program that I tried, tested and posted a review. Yeah, on principle people can labor for hours to learn all this and save $15, but that is kinda like waiting three hours in line to save $15 on the purchase price of whatever. I mean, what's a person's time worth.

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...but before you go wasting your money, if you went through the whole thread you'd see a dude wrapped it all up in a program for you for free that you can download.

www seabyrdtech com / bbvideo

(sorry can't post real URLs yet here) It continues to use mencoder as the actual conversion engine behind the scenes, so you'll get the same quality vids. Besides having a tool that does all the work for you, you'll get the opportunity to look under the hood and learn a little something whenever you have time (or never, as the case may be ).
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But for a measly $15 he can get a program that I tried, tested and posted a review. Yeah, on principle people can labor for hours to learn all this and save $15, but that is kinda like waiting three hours in line to save $15 on the purchase price of whatever. I mean, what's a person's time worth.
(sorry it didn't work for you)

That's a loaded question -- the time spent for me to learn this (ok, not specifically this since I wasn't new to it, but lets say I was) would be well worth the $15 saved, but not because of the money -- because I took the time, learned something new and now can tackle the next step when it happens. E.g., I originally spent the time figuring out transcoding video when I tried to make my first DVDs/VCDs, and now I apply that to converting videos for my phones (everything from old S40 nokias w3GP to new S60 nokias with DivX to Motos that can do MPEG) -- when I got my Pearl here, it took all of 2 minutes to adjust previous encoding knowledge to be Pearl optimized.

In honesty I should mention I'm a (*nix) systems engineer and tinkerer by nature. I'd rather learn how to bake my own cookies so I'm set for life.
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(sorry it didn't work for you)

That's a loaded question -- the time spent for me to learn this (ok, not specifically this since I wasn't new to it, but lets say I was) would be well worth the $15 saved, but not because of the money -- because I took the time, learned something new and now can tackle the next step when it happens. E.g., I originally spent the time figuring out transcoding video when I tried to make my first DVDs/VCDs, and now I apply that to converting videos for my phones (everything from old S40 nokias w3GP to new S60 nokias with DivX to Motos that can do MPEG) -- when I got my Pearl here, it took all of 2 minutes to adjust previous encoding knowledge to be Pearl optimized.

In honesty I should mention I'm a (*nix) systems engineer and tinkerer by nature. I'd rather learn how to bake my own cookies so I'm set for life.
I'm all for learning how to do things. In fact, I was one of the first persons on the Web in my business, back in 1996. Back then I learned how to produce my own web site because I wanted control of content, making updates, etc.

I also know quite a bit about computers and software. But there is a lot I don't know.

When the Pearl came out I was one of the first on the Web to figure out and post that using Super C was a way to convert video for the Pearl. But as you know, Super C does not work that well at times.

So then I tried using mencoder per the instructions posted on the Forums. The directions were not all that clear and I could not get it to work. It certainly was not for lack of trying and "teaching myself something new."

So then BBVG came along and that saved me a lot of time. At that point I still did not know how to use mencoder in DOS mode or even the Windows GUI.

So using BBVG was a lifesaver for me because I did not have to spend another block of time trying to figure things out.

I have noted over time that there are others who also have the same or similar problems I had with trying to use mencoder or reference the sticky on BBF.

All I am saying when telling them about BBVG is that that program is a possible solution rather than referring them to the sticky, talking in tongues about what they should do, or leaving them to spend hours trying to figure things out.

Duly noted that there are some members who know how to do all this with their eyes closed, but there are some of us who don't get it and don't have the inclination to spend hours trying to learn something new.

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I'm all for learning how to do things. In fact, I was one of the first persons on the Web in my business, back in 1996. Back then I learned how to produce my own web site because I wanted control of content, making updates, etc.

I also know quite a bit about computers and software. But there is a lot I don't know.

When the Pearl came out I was one of the first on the Web to figure out and post that using Super C was a way to convert video for the Pearl. But as you know, Super C does not work that well at times.

So then I tried using mencoder per the instructions posted on the Forums. The directions were not all that clear and I could not get it to work. It certainly was not for lack of trying and "teaching myself something new."

So then BBVG came along and that saved me a lot of time. At that point I still did not know how to use mencoder in DOS mode or even the Windows GUI.

So using BBVG was a lifesaver for me because I did not have to spend another block of time trying to figure things out.

I have noted over time that there are others who also have the same or similar problems I had with trying to use mencoder or reference the sticky on BBF.

All I am saying when telling them about BBVG is that that program is a possible solution rather than referring them to the sticky, talking in tongues about what they should do, or leaving them to spend hours trying to figure things out.

Duly noted that there are some members who know how to do all this with their eyes closed, but there are some of us who don't get it and don't have the inclination to spend hours trying to learn something new.

Hi,
this worked great. Thank you very much and well worth the 15 bucks! One thing I did notice though is it wouldn't convert my Itunes protected content videos. Any solutions for those? If not no big deal as I don't buy/play many of those.

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this worked great. Thank you very much and well worth the 15 bucks! One thing I did notice though is it wouldn't convert my Itunes protected content videos. Any solutions for those? If not no big deal as I don't buy/play many of those.

Lou
Glad it worked out. I dunno about iTune videos. I think that Apple's stuff has some type of protection or encoding that does not allow programs like BBVG to convert.

One of the reasons I don't use or download Apple's stuff.
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