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Old 01-05-2007, 10:02 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Sorry for the noob question but I'm totally new to BBs, and would like to find out more about how useable the Pearl is. I've used Palm's in the past esp for their PIM functions.

Given that the 8100 has a smaller screen, how do you find it for inputting appointments, to do's, tracking stuff. How much is it a compromise compared to other BBs with a larger form factor, and other PDAs.

Basically, I'm trying find a mobile with a small form factor but with usable PIM (so I don't need a carry a diary around anymore)

[Another contender is the Nokia N73 (with additional software). But please convince me the Pearl is better to use as a PDA]

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Of course on a BB forum we will lean towards the Pearl, but the choice is really up to you. Will you be using it with a data plan, or strictly as a PDA.

I have found that it works great for me, but the thing you will have to learn to use is SureType. It doesn't take long, but some people can't stand it.
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My PDA is now resting in peace for about 8 months. I first used the 8700 (actualy still use it) and now been using the Pearle and I can say that I never thought it was that easy to get used to.
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Just ditched my Treo and couldn't be happier. Interestingly enough, what I couldn't let go was Palm Desktop. I still use it with the Pearl.
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Use my BB 8703e for my practice. The 8100 does have a smaller screen but it is still functional enough to use the PDA functionality of the BB. Used my 7105t for the same purpose with no problems. I have to be available 24/7 in my field and the BB allows me to do that.
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I think it depends a lot on how much you use the PDA tools, especially the calendar. The 8100 has a useable calendar, but it is far inferior to both PPC and PalmOS third party alternatives. I find the weakness of the BB calendar to be the prime reason I keep my old Palm Zire72s on hand. (There is also my need to access my reference documents and edit Office documents, but that's another story). If you live from your calendar, like I do, you might be disappointed. If you merely need to keep track of a simple schedule, the 8100 will do fine.

Along those lines, the 8100 address book is terrific, and its ability to map addresses right out of the address book is really great. Add Berry 411 and the 8100 makes a very useful organizer (if you can stand the calendar). Just my 2 cents.
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Sorry! my error! See below

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Originally Posted by vherrera0079
Just ditched my Treo and couldn't be happier. Interestingly enough, what I couldn't let go was Palm Desktop. I still use it with the Pearl.
May I ask?

What software do you use for - Palm Desktop (sync) to BB as I also like the Palm Software.

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Wow, thanks for the quick replies.

My main use would be as a PDA, mainly to keep and track calendar appointments and have running to-do lists. But of course the intention is to only have one device, pda + phone, hence the 8100.

I guess my post is two fold, since I don't have experience of BBs at all and have found it difficult to get a good demo in a shop to date.

Firstly, how BBs in general fare as PDA in relation to calendar, appointments, todos, and then more specifically, if the 8100 is usable in this respect due to screen size. (I reckon I can put the effort in with suretype).

I don't think my life depends on the calendar but I would need something easy to use and readable, and not get frustrated with fiddly data inputting.

And also, does the 8100 display a summary of Today, like you find on other mobile PDAs

Ideally, it would also be great if it could be synched with the google calendar and I've read this is becoming possible.

But at the moment, info & user experience about the 8100 as a standalone pda is what I'd like to find out.

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I ditched my Treo 650 for the RIM 8100 (Pearl) and I'm not disappointed. I may upgrade to the RIM 8800 when it's released with Rogers but I'm overall impressed with RIM SureType. SureType does take a bit of getting used to but it does get easier to use over time. Also with SureType remembering words saved in for example your Address Book it can dramatically improve typing whether for PIN to PIN messages, sms or email. What I find is that I'm occasionally reaching for my Pearl concerned I may have left it behind due to how light and small the device is. It definitely has a different feel compared to using the Treo. While you have basic applications on the Pearl just as with the Treo you also have the option of purchasing third party software. If you want a full qwerty keyboard you may want to consider holding off till the 8800 comes out or getting the 8700 now.
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I left the Treo 650 and went to the Pearl...only thing I miss is datebook 6. Nothing on the Pearl compares to that kind of functionality and ease of use. If there is something, I would love to know.
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Yup me too on Datebook...my Tungsten sits here gathering dust but I can't bring myself to ditch it... I do miss that app tho for sure
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I use the Pearl as a PDA and it works well when out and about.

However, I also do some updating on the weekend using a PC with MS Outllook and then sync with the Pearl.

I would do this with ANY cell/pda though and its not because of the Pearls small size.
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True, I do the same with Google Calendar over the weekend and that helps as well... all in all I sort of miss the PDA calenar function but not enough to go back to Palm, or carry both around!
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Originally Posted by vherrera0079
Just ditched my Treo and couldn't be happier. Interestingly enough, what I couldn't let go was Palm Desktop. I still use it with the Pearl.
How did you get the Palm Desktop to sync with the Pearl? I migrated to Outlook - but would really prefer the Palm calendar.
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this is what I'm struggling with everyday....I have grown used to the Palm Treo format for 4 years and use the PIM (agendus) app so much - I honestly love the pearl but can't seem to use it for PIM as easily as the Palm.

The Palm format offers so much more in terms of useablilty and features. Agendus for palm is one killer app that is a PIM dream.

I carry both the Treo 700p and the Pearl now until I figure out whats best in an all in one smartphone

Good luck.
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Is there any chance that an Agendus-type app might be written for the Pearl and other BBs? Seems like it should be possible, at least for most functionality.

Speaking of which, is there a way to attach a contact to an appointment? There's a field to do so in Outlook, but it doesn't show up at all in the BB calendar.
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I left the Treo 650 and went to the Pearl...only thing I miss is datebook 6. Nothing on the Pearl compares to that kind of functionality and ease of use. If there is something, I would love to know.

There is nothing out there even remotely close to DATEBK6. I had it on my Palm Tungsten and it is the best PDA calender software available.
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True, the Palm calendar is the best one out there IMHO (Until my Pearl, I had been a palm user since 2001 or so). But to be honest, unless you have a very complex calendar or have higher than average requirements, you'll probably be fine with the calendar on the BB. I had no trouble adjusting to it. I still use outlook to manage my calendar, but the calendar app on the BB really works well.
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First off... forget Symbian!
Sure they are fashioned phones and Nokia started also to put some blackberry stuff in it (like the BB client for the E series) but they are unusable. Yes, interface is very easy to undertsand, but they are damn too slow. Take a Symbian phone, select "New sms"... it will take some time to open the "window" where you will type your text in. Phonebook: very nice, but if you have lots of contacts it will take times to load...
I do think they are good phones for entertainment (musinc and video/picture), they have tons of software, from the one helping you with the shopping list, to the other that reminds you about your girlfriend's cycles.
Now, if you are interested in PIM, appointments, tasks, but you don't work alot with emails on your device, my suggestion can be stick with a Treo, maybe the 680 or 700p (I still prefer Palm OS instead of crappy Windows) that also as a great one-hand navigation system.
If, apart PIM features, you receive and sent also a good quantity of emails form your phone... wellcome to BB world.
I do not know where you live and what kinda mobile operator you have, but before buying a BB check that your operator has special plan from BB users. Buying a BB without a data plan will be like to buy a Ferrari without the engine (is it a good comparison?).

Regards, Diego
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