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multiPlay for Blackberry Pearl 8100 - beta -
02-03-2007, 07:59 AM
Dollars 5 Compile Labs» Blog Archive » multiPlay for Blackberry Pearl 8100 - beta announcement
Dollars 5 Complete announces the public beta for multiPlay for Blackberry Pearl 8100. multiPlay is an Entertainment+Productivity+utility application for Pearl. It is a single application that multiplies as 4 functional applications.
The bundled modules are media player, vNotes, txtNotes and File explorer. Media Player is an entertainment application that allows users to listen to music, crete playlists and manage them. vNotes is a voice memo application that allows users to create memo in using different codecs. txtNotes is a notepad for Blackberry, it can create, view ASCII text files, import/export memos as text files. File Explorer is a Blackberry file system management tool that allows users to create, rename, copy, move, delete files/folders.
When released this product will remain free for personal use, while an optimized commercial professional license will also be available, with many features and unrestricted usage.
This product has been in an internal and closed public beta stage for a long period and a variety of bugs have been fixed.
The over the air (OTA) install is available from:
http://www.dollars5.com/OTA/multiPlay.jad
For people interested in downloading and installing via Blackberry desktop manager the files are available for download through the following links:
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.cod
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.alx
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.zip
The user manual is available from:
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl...usermanual.pdf
Feel free to test ride and enjoy the application
(NOTE to Admins: I thought this would be the appropriate place to make this announcement - if anything is wrong - pls moderate the post appropriately)
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02-03-2007, 08:30 AM
sounds awesome - but when i target the .jad from my pearl it just displays the contents of the jad - have you set up the mime types on your server?
and how about some screenshots!!
[edit -just installed via desktop manager and the app wont start?]
new job doesn't allow a public profile - please do not contact this user with questions, you will not get a response. good luck!
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02-03-2007, 08:40 AM
hey dollars5, for some reason i cant download over the air is that the corrct address it keeps giving me error.
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02-03-2007, 09:00 AM
An updated version is now available, it was a problem due to incomplete upload and now that is fixed.
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02-03-2007, 09:03 AM
Oops, mime type setting not set pls ignore the jad link.
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02-03-2007, 12:00 PM
I downloaded the player, but the file explorer folder is empty. How do I put songs in there? Is it through DM?
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02-03-2007, 12:03 PM
Tried to create a playlist with an entire folder on my SD card. No dice. Looks like it's saving the playlist, but just goes back to "NowPlaylist" and "Sample Playlist", both of which contain nothing.
Do I need a validation key to simply do a playlist?
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02-03-2007, 12:28 PM
No validation keys needed, the Sample playlist is the one that you just created, focus and click on it, you should see it selected now hit 'Play selected playlist' and you are done.
Pls do refer the user manual for more details.
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02-03-2007, 12:29 PM
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I downloaded the player, but the file explorer folder is empty. How do I put songs in there? Is it through DM?
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yep, adding songs is through desktop manager to your SD card and through the playlist manager - you can create playlists for the songs.
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02-03-2007, 12:47 PM
Oh very nice looking, makes me want to get an 8100 even more now, doh...
Still tho, is it possible to add cue sheet, gapless mp3, ogg or streaming audio support? either of then would do nicely.
[I know iv jus asked this in "What is a good Mp3 player for Blackberry?" but thought itd get noticed more in this thread.]
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02-03-2007, 01:18 PM
Does this program allow me to record conversations? I used that all the time on my E61, and it is almost worth getting rid of the Pearl over. I am in the car and on the phone all of the time, and talking while driving is dangerous enough, much less taking notes.
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Does this program allow me to record conversations? I used that all the time on my E61, and it is almost worth getting rid of the Pearl over. I am in the car and on the phone all of the time, and talking while driving is dangerous enough, much less taking notes.
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I wish the pearl did have a voice recorder that would be nice so i could take notes and sent them through an email message.
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02-03-2007, 03:23 PM
Looks like it lets you record in the vnotes part of the app, it is only voice quality. now if it could do cd quality then there would be another field that the Bb outdid almost every other phone.
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02-03-2007, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dollars5
Dollars 5 Compile Labs» Blog Archive » multiPlay for Blackberry Pearl 8100 - beta announcement
Dollars 5 Complete announces the public beta for multiPlay for Blackberry Pearl 8100. multiPlay is an Entertainment+Productivity+utility application for Pearl. It is a single application that multiplies as 4 functional applications.
The bundled modules are media player, vNotes, txtNotes and File explorer. Media Player is an entertainment application that allows users to listen to music, crete playlists and manage them. vNotes is a voice memo application that allows users to create memo in using different codecs. txtNotes is a notepad for Blackberry, it can create, view ASCII text files, import/export memos as text files. File Explorer is a Blackberry file system management tool that allows users to create, rename, copy, move, delete files/folders.
When released this product will remain free for personal use, while an optimized commercial professional license will also be available, with many features and unrestricted usage.
This product has been in an internal and closed public beta stage for a long period and a variety of bugs have been fixed.
The over the air (OTA) install is available from:
(NOT AVAILABLE ATP)
For people interested in downloading and installing via Blackberry desktop manager the files are available for download through the following links:
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.cod
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.alx
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.zip
The user manual is available from:
http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl...usermanual.pdf
Feel free to test ride and enjoy the application
(NOTE to Admins: I thought this would be the appropriate place to make this announcement - if anything is wrong - pls moderate the post appropriately)
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so no OTA? huh
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02-03-2007, 10:52 PM
Our web-admin is out of office and I dunno the configuration details for the apache - so have to wait till hez back to get the OTA stuff done. I had thought just uploading the jad would do - but seems a small server config is needed too.
Please bear with us till Monday.
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02-03-2007, 11:27 PM
just installed via dm worked like a charm.. mainly want it for media player... havent really tinkered with it yet but format is great love the display and funtionality of playlist great job two thumbs and two big toes up wonderful job
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02-03-2007, 11:42 PM
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Still tho, is it possible to add cue sheet, gapless mp3, ogg or streaming audio support? either of then would do nicely.
[I know iv jus asked this in "What is a good Mp3 player for Blackberry?" but thought itd get noticed more in this thread.]
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We are already working on ogg vorbis support, but that would take time as by default it is not supported on blackberry.
gapless mp3 - we do not pause between mp3 files, once file1 is complete file2 is played almost immediately. We have plans to add some gaps for future versions as it was requested by many people.
CUE sheets - We ran a poll initially for this among our closed beta testers and almost all of them report they do not use cues for their mobile. CUE sheet is just a fact file on the tracks and file locations and we will consier it for our future versions.
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Looks like it lets you record in the vnotes part of the app, it is only voice quality. now if it could do cd quality then there would be another field that the Bb outdid almost every other phone.
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Blackberry does not support CD quality recording only voice quality, mono recording - is possible.
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Originally Posted by dhendriksen
Does this program allow me to record conversations? I used that all the time on my E61, and it is almost worth getting rid of the Pearl over. I am in the car and on the phone all of the time, and talking while driving is dangerous enough, much less taking notes.
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Our vNotes module does it, and it is non-optimized and an highly optimized voice recorder for Blackberry pearl is almost up to release (when you purchase a professional license for multiPlay - you can get that voice recorder with it) - but you will have to wait for atleast 3-4 days before we announce final version releases. [Some features: in our stress test - it recorded for more than 1 hour continously, very fast processing for generating G711 audio files, plans to add high quality GSM 6.10 which is better than AMR]
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02-04-2007, 02:25 AM
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We are already working on ogg vorbis support, but that would take time as by default it is not supported on blackberry.
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Woohoo.. Thanks
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gapless mp3 - we do not pause between mp3 files, once file1 is complete file2 is played almost immediately. We have plans to add some gaps for future versions as it was requested by many people.
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Is it true gapless, as a lot of the music I have is mixes and even the empty end frames in mp3 files are nuticable unless there skipped by the player as it supports the gapless actual time thing in the mp3 header. Could there be the option for this adding a gap for those of us who would prefere no gap, as aposed to hard coding a delay in?
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CUE sheets - We ran a poll initially for this among our closed beta testers and almost all of them report they do not use cues for their mobile. CUE sheet is just a fact file on the tracks and file locations and we will consier it for our future versions.
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Its a relatively simple function to impliment in most cases, unless theres a media library involved. Thanks. 
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02-04-2007, 04:03 AM
Ohh, now I get it, you mean to say to ignore the empty silence frames at the end of mp3s to provide a seemless experience - rite?
But the problem with Blackberry implementation is that there is no proper way of detecting silence frames at end of the mp3s - but there should be some programmatic way to get it - we will invest some time into this when the critical projects and patches are done.
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02-04-2007, 08:24 AM
The common way most systems get around it is by having an additional ID3 element that must just state the exact length, then beyond this is assumed to be silent frames.
But once either OGG or CUE Sheets are implimented its not a problem, as OGG doesnt have the silent frames issue, or CUE Sheets would mean seamless track marks but still skippable tracks, atleast on CBR MP3s anyway. VBR tend to be a bit more problematic in this area.
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02-04-2007, 10:56 PM
couple of issues... volume dont stay where its atalways keeps goin to max when u restart and play.... conveinence volume buttons dont control the volume... all i can think of.... otherwise wonderful app
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02-05-2007, 01:43 AM
OTA link added: http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.jad
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couple of issues... volume dont stay where its atalways keeps goin to max when u restart and play.... conveinence volume buttons dont control the volume... all i can think of.... otherwise wonderful app
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the volume problem will be addressed in next release, also note there is no way to trap the convenience volume keys in Blackberry as of now other than those released by RIM itself. but we have plans to map other buttons for this purpose.
Say 'QW' to increase volume and 'OP' to decrease volume.
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02-05-2007, 03:30 AM
I can't download it, the link doesn't work....is it a problem only for me?
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02-05-2007, 06:02 AM
you mean the OTA link? or the cod file themselves?
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02-05-2007, 07:09 AM
The code file...."Internal Server Error"...WHY????
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02-05-2007, 07:17 AM
Nope from the PC it is downloadable. Zip also works fine. OTA admin has enabled MIME settings, if any problems pls let me know.
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02-05-2007, 07:36 AM
Maybe it depend by the firewall i got in office, i'll try again this afternoon at home. Tnks ;)
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02-05-2007, 07:40 AM
You can try now again, it might be because we were mending with the settings too for a short period and it happened that you accessed it that time.
The new OTA link is http://www.dollars5.com/downloads/bl.../multiPlay.jad
You can feel free to use the zip or download the cod and alx itself.
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02-05-2007, 02:25 PM
The link doesn't work for me....
I just tryed opening that link on my BB and it opens the file with the code instead of downloading it, help please!
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02-05-2007, 03:23 PM
Me too. The link only opens some text file.
Manifest-Version: 1.0
MIDlet-Version: 0.9.9.1459 beta
MIDlet-Jar-Size: 757866
RIM-COD-URL-5: multiPlay-5.cod
RIM-COD-URL-4: multiPlay-4.cod
RIM-COD-SHA1-5: b5 b1 f8 27 b1 ca 49 c8 79 5f 64 43 07 15 39 ec 03 15 e3 e1
RIM-COD-SHA1-4: d8 5a 1e b9 23 4e 8e 67 c9 d7 fd d3 48 f3 6d 5c 4d 57 05 c3
RIM-COD-URL-3: multiPlay-3.cod
RIM-COD-Module-Dependencies: net_rim_cldc,net_rim_crypto_1,net_rim_pdap,net_rim _bbapi_phone
RIM-COD-SHA1-3: 19 9b ed 98 78 95 19 40 75 66 57 b3 9c b5 5a 14 ed a3 11 fb
RIM-COD-URL-2: multiPlay-2.cod
MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.1
MIDlet-Jar-URL: multiPlay.jar
RIM-COD-Size-5: 9608
RIM-COD-SHA1-2: 3b d3 45 5c 46 81 bf 04 e2 29 c7 ee 88 9f 1d cd d0 5e 98 5f
RIM-COD-URL-1: multiPlay-1.cod
RIM-COD-Size-4: 78828
RIM-COD-SHA1-1: 19 8b 73 9e 0e c2 46 d4 c6 97 e3 a8 86 6b 80 69 ce a2 5a 3b
RIM-COD-Size-3: 61464
RIM-COD-Size-2: 71100
RIM-MIDlet-Flags-1: 0
RIM-COD-Size-1: 65668
RIM-COD-Module-Name: multiPlay
RIM-COD-Size: 65572
MIDlet-Name: multiPlay
RIM-COD-Creation-Time: 1170510500
MIDlet-1: multiPlay,Img/AppIcon.png,
RIM-COD-URL: multiPlay.cod
MIDlet-Description: Blackberry Entertainment+Productivity+Utility all in one application
RIM-MIDlet-NameResourceId-1: 0
RIM-COD-SHA1: 9a 7e a5 69 09 6b 3a 68 06 b3 b3 35 18 5c d0 ec 56 a0 db 48
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
MIDlet-Vendor: Dollars 5 Complete
RIM-MIDlet-NameResourceBundle-1: multiPlay.multiPlay
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02-05-2007, 07:15 PM
the OTA link doesn't seem to work....
all it does is open what was posted above mine
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02-05-2007, 07:39 PM
very cool!
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02-05-2007, 08:02 PM
OTA seem to cause some problems again - will remove temporarily and enable it when available and tested properly. Please bear with us.
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02-05-2007, 08:20 PM
New OTA link is available from http://www.dollars5.com/OTA/multiPlay.jad - tested working fine.
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02-05-2007, 09:45 PM
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just tried it. error 500.
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02-05-2007, 10:58 PM
Can you try now.
I think the huge size of the cod is causing the problem.
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02-05-2007, 11:41 PM
Nope, got this error.
Error: Invalid manifest or application descriptor.
The "MIDlet-Version" attribute is not a valid version number.
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