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Default 03-27-2007, 02:42 PM

I was wrong when I posted earlier about not being able to install with a Mac. . . PocketMac 4 has a feature that does install software to the blackberry. . It's under Utilities in the menu bar. Does look nifty on my Pearl (especially the red pearl with a red ball). I didn't try it on my 8800...
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 02:55 PM

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Strange. The light is fading in time. Was very strong at the beginning...now is losing the strength. Red is pink....and blue is pale blue. Have tried on three pearls and the same.
DON'T BUY IT BEFORE YOU TRY. You might not actually like it, even if it's just $4.99
That maybe is a function of the newer operating systems and losing the ability to turn auto-dim off?

I have the original .42 OS and auto-dim set to "off." My trackball stays 100% bright for however long I set the trackball to stay lit.

There's nothing wrong with this program.
   
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what i don't get is how a program can do this...this is a "hardware" tweak i'd say...as if the pearl was made to be able to do this, so why didn't the Pearl have this as an option? how'd a third party get this to work?
That's like asking why there are so many tweaks for Microsoft XP and why didn't MS include them all with the OS, either the original disc or through patches.

Fact is, third parties come up with all kinds of ideas. They put in the time and effort to do the programming that MS did not.

Same here. As time goes on third parties will come up with tweaks, etc. For example, there is one BBF member that developed that little program that resets the Pearl which is 150% better than doing what RIM requires for a reset, pulling the battery. Why didn't RIM include a software reset button in the original or subsequent operating systems?

And what about Seidio's speaker mod, better fitting cover and extended batteries? Why didn't RIM "fix" those things?

Fact is, I am sure that while RIM knew it could make the trackball light up different colors, they either reserved the idea for release on future phones [as an incentive for us to upgrade]; they did not want to take the time to make the program; or they figured changing the trackball color was not that important a feature to consumers, so why include it.

As to how it works, seeing how this might make the developer $500k to $1 million in the next month or so, I doubt they will tell you how they did it.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 03:30 PM

$500K to $1M? Come on - they'd have to sell 100,000 copies to get to the lower number. People might make some vacation money off something like this, but nothing like the numbers you are stating...
   
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$500K to $1M? Come on - they'd have to sell 100,000 copies to get to the lower number. People might make some vacation money off something like this, but nothing like the numbers you are stating...
Well, my numbers are very conservative and based on how many hits my trackball mod got on all the Forums and through links. Even if they made $100k, that's a damn nice vacation.

Whatever, there are skeptics for sure.

Matter of fact, when bottled water came out I thought no way people would pay for water. Aside from the success of that product, I find myself now paying $2.50 for water all the time, at the movies, while shopping, on the road.

Bottom line, who cares. I was just thinking out loud and supporting my response to that one query as to why the developers are not about to share their secret [which may not be a secret at all since maybe anyone can do this, to where being the first out is what counts].

Truth is, no one knows what will take off and sell like hotcakes. Duly note that those who put ideas into action are optimistic while there are others on the sidelines saying "no way." Only time will tell.

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Default 03-27-2007, 04:01 PM

Nice find SF, I'll add it when I get home. Sure RIM could've done it. You can already get the tb to blink multiple colors when it rings, so they put the colored LEDs there for some reason. I do wonder if it'll affect battery life, but not much. The 1250 battery now goes a week for me.


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Default 03-27-2007, 05:12 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/121)

Try it with autodim on and the color is superb, I'll wait at night and see how it behaves in a darker enviroment so far so good I already broke my ewalley lol
   
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Try it with autodim on and the color is superb, I'll wait at night and see how it behaves in a darker enviroment so far so good I already broke my ewalley lol
Waiting until night is for wimps.

Be brave, lock yourself in a closet. Do the test for at least 1/2 hour. Report back your findings.

Bonus Tip: Take some water and trail mix into the closet with you, if needed.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 05:44 PM

OK, while I was cleaning off my blue Sharpie on the LED I did some tests to see what all is happening with the LEDs when this program is operating. As suspected, the program alternates the LEDs to get the various colors.

In disabled mode the main white LED, or default if you will, is the one that lights up.

Pics self explanatory. I did not do all the colors since one gets the idea with the below pics.

By the way, I took some of those pics before I cleaned off the blue Sharpie, that is why the lower right LED still has a blue tint to it.


















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Default 03-27-2007, 05:46 PM

i am in...awesome product!!!


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Default 03-27-2007, 06:12 PM

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Waiting until night is for wimps.

Be brave, lock yourself in a closet. Do the test for at least 1/2 hour. Report back your findings.

Bonus Tip: Take some water and trail mix into the closet with you, if needed.
I got out of the closet a while now.... that didn't sound right LOL.ran out of water and need it to get some, didn't pay $2.50 for it though, any who I did try it even after I read this, the blue color is very solid while in the dark, but if the back light comes up the blue color kinds of fade, the same with any color. turn off autodim and the colors are not as solid, but still a cool app. and the support is also great, I stupidly put my PIN wrong while buying, and of course got a wrong key, this guys gave me a new key within 3 hours and I was like great.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 06:23 PM

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The blue color is very solid while in the dark, but if the back light comes up the blue color kinds of fade, the same with any color. turn off autodim and the colors are not as solid, but still a cool app. and the support is also great, I stupidly put my PIN wrong while buying, and of course got a wrong key, this guys gave me a new key within 3 hours and I was like great.
I don't get the fading at all. But when I turned auto-dim to "on" I did get the fading.

Guess that's another reason I am glad to still be on the .42 OS. When I turned the feature on and went into a dark room I could not believe how dark the screen was, bad, bad, bad.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 06:49 PM

I think some one mention the fact that when back lights comes up, the "pearl" does get a flood of white thus some kind of fade of color, still bright and all but just not as blue if I make any sense?I´m on 1.66 OS
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 07:59 PM

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I think some one mention the fact that when back lights comes up, the "pearl" does get a flood of white thus some kind of fade of color, still bright and all but just not as blue if I make any sense?I´m on 1.66 OS
Of the six colors, my blue is not that bright, kind of faded. All the others are super bright.

Maybe the blue LED is not all that bright to begin with? Look at my pics. Notice that in comparison to the others, the blue LED is not as bright.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 08:02 PM

When the auto dim is on, the blue is as bright as the pink one!


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Default 03-27-2007, 08:14 PM

Yeah, after 15 seconds it turns to white. It fades some when the thing dims, not much. I think it's a nice tweak myself.


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Default 03-27-2007, 08:20 PM

Just trying the free trial. It's a nice bit o'fun.



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Default 03-27-2007, 08:27 PM

what is different from the trial download from the purchased version?
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 08:40 PM

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what is different from the trial download from the purchased version?
Don't think there's a difference. The trial only works for a couple/few days though.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 09:16 PM

This is an awesome program. You need to make sure that you set the timer on the color program for the same amount of time that the screen timer is set - or it doesn't look right.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 09:19 PM

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Would you actually buy this program? just cerious how many people would.
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Default 03-27-2007, 09:38 PM

Same as others, great when the keypad isn't lit, but when the auto backlight comes on enough to light the keypad, the colors fade.

thanks nonetheless, nice little app
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 09:39 PM

I cannot get the program to open. After download, what are the steps? Adobe keeps trying to open these files.

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I cannot get the program to open. After download, what are the steps? Adobe keeps trying to open these files.

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Put the .alx and .cod on your desktop, connect your BB to your PC, open up the desktop manager, wait till it says connected and you can select the Application Loader, select the loader, select add, select the program on your desktop and let the desktop manager do the rest


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Default 03-27-2007, 10:06 PM

Well I just bought it. Just did the tape mod yesterday too...oh well, this is a lot better. Thanks SF.


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Default 03-27-2007, 10:16 PM

I kinda like just having the blue color (sorta faded as many have mentioned) in that it hides any dirtiness the default illuminated white pearl shows. (dust, dirt etc.) I may consider purchasing. I'll have to see how I like it during the daytime tomorrow.

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Default 03-27-2007, 10:29 PM

Okay, I'm an idiot. I don't have PocketMac, but I do have Missing Sync. How the heck do I open the trackball program?

I downloaded PocketMac once and got rid of it, and am unable to downloaded again.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 10:57 PM

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I kinda like just having the blue color (sorta faded as many have mentioned) in that it hides any dirtiness the default illuminated white pearl shows. (dust, dirt etc.) I may consider purchasing. I'll have to see how I like it during the daytime tomorrow.

Nice find.
Ultimately, this is why I bought it. Just to cover that dirty trackball. It went from cruddy to cool real quick.
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 11:25 PM

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That's like asking why there are so many tweaks for Microsoft XP and why didn't MS include them all with the OS, either the original disc or through patches.

Fact is, third parties come up with all kinds of ideas. They put in the time and effort to do the programming that MS did not.

Same here. As time goes on third parties will come up with tweaks, etc. For example, there is one BBF member that developed that little program that resets the Pearl which is 150% better than doing what RIM requires for a reset, pulling the battery. Why didn't RIM include a software reset button in the original or subsequent operating systems?

And what about Seidio's speaker mod, better fitting cover and extended batteries? Why didn't RIM "fix" those things?

Fact is, I am sure that while RIM knew it could make the trackball light up different colors, they either reserved the idea for release on future phones [as an incentive for us to upgrade]; they did not want to take the time to make the program; or they figured changing the trackball color was not that important a feature to consumers, so why include it.

As to how it works, seeing how this might make the developer $500k to $1 million in the next month or so, I doubt they will tell you how they did it.

I understand how Windows and such has new things...but this is a HARDWARE "mod" instead of just using the code or something...so i guess RIM put the colors behind the trackball, but didn't include a way to change it so someone found a way and made the program?
   
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Default 03-27-2007, 11:28 PM

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I understand how Windows and such has new things...but this is a HARDWARE "mod" instead of just using the code or something...so i guess RIM put the colors behind the trackball, but didn't include a way to change it so someone found a way and made the program?
The leds were always there, we just didn't know how to access them, hence the sharpie mods, etc. Now, finally, some genius developer figured out how to.


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Default 03-27-2007, 11:57 PM

can someone tell me what program exactly i need to download.Like the desktop manager.I went to the site and there were a good 30 programs.what do you gusy use
   
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The leds were always there, we just didn't know how to access them, hence the sharpie mods, etc. Now, finally, some genius developer figured out how to.

ahh okay...


...sharpie mods? is that what these types (color changing things) are called? or is that a specific one.
   
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Nice find SF, I'll add it when I get home. Sure RIM could've done it. You can already get the tb to blink multiple colors when it rings, so they put the colored LEDs there for some reason. I do wonder if it'll affect battery life, but not much. The 1250 battery now goes a week for me.
Hi TheBigNewt!

I set the trackball to stay on longer (120) than my backlight (30) because I like how bright the colors are (especially the blue) when the rest of the Pearl goes dark.

I did notice that the battery went to 55% after a few hours of usage. Usually, it's around 80% by then. But I charge the Pearl each night, so it's all good.

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ahh okay...


...sharpie mods? is that what these types (color changing things) are called? or is that a specific one.
Sharpie mod refers to the felt tip pen that I used to color the LED. The brand was "Sharpie."

Search for my thread on changing the trackball color and you can see the step by step.

This program eliminated our having to manually color the LED, as it activates the LED color changes through programming.

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Nice find SF, I'll add it when I get home. Sure RIM could've done it. You can already get the tb to blink multiple colors when it rings, so they put the colored LEDs there for some reason.

How do you do that???

ahh, okay SF.
   
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Default 03-28-2007, 01:01 AM

I was pretty sure and still pretty sure that it isn't the blue that "fades" away... but the mixture of the white normal LED and the blue one... if you notice, if you put the seconds longer than the amount your backlight stays on it turns back into a dark blue, so isn't it just the white LED turning off?

Actually if you look at it closely, you can see the WHITE LED turning on the right side and making it have the fading color... so it is the white LED that makes it fade. This happens to all the other colors as well just that they aren't as cool and mellow as blue.


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How do you do that???

ahh, okay SF.
yea how did u do that? i want to make it go crazy when i get a text and such
   
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Default 03-28-2007, 04:52 AM

they should have put this in the OS.. and WTF is OTA


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