BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 05-08-2007, 08:58 PM   #1 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 92
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Why So Slow?

Please Login to Remove!

I am just starting to use my new 8100 Pearl... why is it so slow? I mean it takes forever to do ANYTHING...
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
John Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
OS: 10.2.1.x
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 34,679
Post Thanks: 4
Thanked 96 Times in 71 Posts
Default

A little more info please. have you installed anything on it? What have you done with it so far? Have you tried rebooting the device by removing the battery?
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: Pearl
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tmobile
Posts: 31
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SharifTK View Post
I am just starting to use my new 8100 Pearl... why is it so slow? I mean it takes forever to do ANYTHING...
Do you mean data wise? If so, I know that Tmobile's data speeds for browsing etc are miserable at best.

I use to use Verizon and also have Sprint accounts, they both SCREAM!

Problem is, I tried a BB on the Verizon network and the push email was REALLY unreliable. I would get my emails instantly sometimes, then delayed for 20 minutes to a few hours other times. I also had issues with not getting some emails at all to my BB address.

One big reason I use a BB is because I need instant notification of emails going to my BB address, I use it like a pager to notify me of servers that go down etc. I has to be reliable or I have to carry a pager.

For me, Tmobile can't be beat for reliable BB services and the push email. Other than that, their data speeds stink. I stick with them for the great BB service though.
__________________
Tmobile Black Pearl
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:17 PM   #4 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
LaTuFu's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Lynchburg, VA
Model: 8100
PIN: 23FA4D95
Carrier: Cingular/AT&T
Posts: 117
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

At the risk of hijacking the OP's question, could T-Mo's data speeds be a result of the fact they don't actually "own" a network, they piggyback off other carrier's systems and pay for the access?
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:25 PM   #5 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: Pearl
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tmobile
Posts: 31
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LaTuFu View Post
At the risk of hijacking the OP's question, could T-Mo's data speeds be a result of the fact they don't actually "own" a network, they piggyback off other carrier's systems and pay for the access?
Beats me but, other than the miserable data speeds, I have been real happy with them.

Thing is, for when it comes to data speeds, this is a big issue for me. Speed and reliability of BB push email just comes before data speeds on my priority list.
__________________
Tmobile Black Pearl
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
Crimson Tide Moderator
 
JSanders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 7.0sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 41,907
Post Thanks: 60
Thanked 244 Times in 182 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (8700g: BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Back on topic--ShareifTK, is it a brand-new device or used? If it is used there could be a few things to help out. If it is indeed new, do as John suggested above, for now, and give it some time to see.

To fonewiz--You'd have to show me some actual data (which I am ready and willing to see) to prove that TMo's data sppeds are that bad. I sure don't have a problem with my speeds, at least, speaking from personal experience. I've stood toe-to-toe with Cingular and Verizon users retrieving the very same files and not noticed anything miserable or better.
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Model: Pearl
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 6
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Slowness on T-Mobile's network

The "slowness" of T-Mobile's data network is due to the technology it's sitting upon. EDGE is the best you can get with a Blackberry on T-Mobile's network (WIFI aside) Using their existing equipment, there is little improvement that can be realized. T-Mobile has made investments in the radio spectrum for next gen improvements, but it'll take time (and they're looking down the wrong paths anyway IMO.)

(LaTuFu: T-Mobile, like everyone else, does "borrow" services from other providers to beef up their coverage, but they own a boatload of towers and spectrum on their own. That's not related to the slowness of EDGE either. Cingular uses EDGE as well (they do have HSDPA (Did I spell that right?) but the Blackberries don't support it as far I know. So they'll be pretty much at parity. Verizon with its EVDO network has the potential for being much faster, on overall throughput. )

Yes, the Pearl has a fairly slow interface. There were tradeoff's that had to be made for power conservation/size/price when they were selecting processors and memory. Buck for buck, when you're holding a Pearl in your hand, you're holding a downright amazing amount of technology. Let us not forget that

Last edited by bdeakin : 05-08-2007 at 11:15 PM. Reason: grammar
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 09:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
MegaMan X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 8320
PIN: Wifi Curve
Carrier: T-Mobile™ USA
Posts: 140
Post Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Data speeds seem to get better when the area you're in has full reception. That's generally the case for me
__________________
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]http://www.blackberryfaq.com/
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 10:05 PM   #9 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: Pearl
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tmobile
Posts: 31
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by JSanders View Post
To fonewiz--You'd have to show me some actual data (which I am ready and willing to see) to prove that TMo's data sppeds are that bad. I sure don't have a problem with my speeds, at least, speaking from personal experience. I've stood toe-to-toe with Cingular and Verizon users retrieving the very same files and not noticed anything miserable or better.
Well, I don't know what data I could provide as proof and don't care to but..

Do some research and you will find that Sprint and Verizon have far superior speeds.. I have seen over 1 mb connections on my Sprint and Verizon cards, you will never see anything close on Cingular or Tmobile because the technology just doesn't support it.

This is why I have a Sprint account for my data card and a Tmobile account for my phones

Seriously, the speeds are SOOOOOO different and Sooooo much faster with VZW or Sprint, it's totally apples and oranges. Honestly, comparing the two technologies would be like having a debate about dialup internet vs Cable or DSL.
__________________
Tmobile Black Pearl
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 10:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
Crimson Tide Moderator
 
JSanders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 7.0sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 41,907
Post Thanks: 60
Thanked 244 Times in 182 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (8700g: BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

Oh well, since we are (I was) talking BlackBerry data here and not otherwise, it doesn't even matter.
Offline  
Old 05-08-2007, 11:07 PM   #11 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Central Jersey
Model: 9700
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 55
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry Pearl: BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

T-Mobile isn't a virtual carrier like Boost or Virgin, buying bulk services from Sprint and reselling it. They own most of their own network.
Offline  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 92
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I'm not talking about data at all, I dont even know how slow it will be because I dont have it enabled on this device yet.

I mean the operating speed of the phone software in general, my 8700g was really fast and didnt freeze up this much at all. And it is a brand new phone, I even did a wipe on it from the security menu.

Last edited by SharifTK : 05-09-2007 at 05:11 PM.
Offline  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:15 PM   #13 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Model: Pearl
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 6
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Hmm... It might be a bad unit. Drop by a T-Mobile store (if there is one nearby) and try the in-shop one for comparison.
Offline  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:18 PM   #14 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 92
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Dang, its not worth doing that anyways I cannot get it replaced as I didn't buy it from T-Mobile.
Offline  
Old 05-09-2007, 05:22 PM   #15 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Model: Pearl
Carrier: T-Mobile
Posts: 6
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

You might not be able to get a new one, but it would tell you whether your unit is normal, and we all have low standards, or it's just you.
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright © 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM © and BlackBerry © are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.