wow, lame. haha but congrats to anyone that got it to work before TMO caught on, unless they changed all your plans so you only have one.

lol.. I think karaokesuperstar, is the only one that was able to get both!

lol, no I think megaman was able to do so as well, but I am on the same boat as you guys, I have the BB feature enable but no surfing, no tzones, however I can MMS, have not tried to IM yet, I guess it took those 48-72 hours that tmo was talking about to take effect... maybe they are reading this forum, if they are, hey Tmo! not everyone needs push email! can you enable Tzone on the BBs so we can surf like most phones out there without having to get the $19.99 plan? a $5.99 Tzone will increase your chances of people getting it on their plan rather than not having it at all!

lol... YEAH!! You tell them!!!

I can't use BB messenger but yet i can get on jivetalk

lol... I mean some sale is better than no sale at all right? greedy mofos... (pardon my ebonics if anyone got offended) it's not that it's incompatible, or that the BB cannot do so because it can...

lmao..GREEDY MOFOS!!!! I completely agree with you dude, if the device is able to have both, then they should allow it. We are still paying something, so its not like we want it for free!

I had both too but sadly that is no longer the case :(

Welcome to the club! lol..

Therefore, I think they are reading this since none of us can get the Tzones maybe I'll wait for the SE P1 to arrive, then I'll be able to use it

What carrier will that be released on?

None of the carriers have advertised it yet, usually I get those (phones that are meant for sale in Europe, Asia) through Ebay or I'll check GSMArena for links of sellers. If you are buying from a company that you are not familiar with, don't forget to check their standings first on the BBB or in resellerraings.com before you send them your $$$

SE P1 Review

The keypad looks out dated!lol..

You know what, Im over this, im going back online and changing back to the bb add-on unlimited internet, this is too much of a hassle, i need all these apps or what is the bb cool for?

lol.. I'll get used to it!

i didnt care to read through 5 pages to get the answer so maybe someone already answered this. do you need the unlimited text messaging plan for the Blackberry Feature enable to work? i have like 500 text plan or something like that

lol.. No, you just need to have a text message plan. The plan you have should do!

Ok so from my experience and all the comments I take it TMO got smart and stopped web browsing.When I called and spoke to a rep I was told even if she wanted to she cant add both(Tzone and BB-enabler).When she hits save on her computer she gets a error.So it appears its just not possible.
As for the others who don't have TZone and can still use oprea I can only guess you just recently canceled something and in time it will end as well.
I would start looking into dropping BB enabler and just getting the TZone but im gonna assume TMO thought of that as well and we would not be able to MMS and text on just TZone.I have a 1000 text/mms account now so they must be able to track it.
Looks like the parties over :(
I would be happy to get the data plan but I cant due to my credit.
So like I stated before: If I have to choose one it will be the text/pic messaging
I cant see myself browsing the web much on a 2 inch screen.

ok I could actually browse sites going in the bb browser but not in opera. I went to boygeniusreport on opera and no go but when i go in bb browser it loads, but my account says no data plan. Did I get hooked up?

Man this thread is getting confusing which one do you have? bb feature enable or tzone?

If you did get hooked up, enjoy it while it lasts!

According to reddog187 in this thread: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...-problems.html

There was a loop hole that allowed us to use Opera Mini for a short while, however, T-Mobile caught on and closed it.

wow lol i got lucky, i called one guy and he sent an unlock code for my sidekick to my email and then he told me that the BB enabler and tzones arent compatible. So i call back and i get Steve, Steve adds both for me without a problem. THANKS STEVE! hahaha

i have bb enabler.

I'm pretty sure T-Mobile will remove it once they figure out your not supposed to have both. If not, consider yourself to be lucky!

im thinking stevie boy lied to me lol. I went on tmobile.com and i see no tzones web thingy checked...im wondering what that dood did add to my plan :rolf:

Call and find out! As soon as you hear what you wanna hear (that you indeed have both) , hang up!lol..

again.....as stated i was told NO ONE at TMO can apply both.There computers wont allow it :(

1st pic is my line:


2nd pic is my friend's line:


As you can see, you can have BOTH the tzones/tmobileweb plan and AND BIS plan

ALSO, you can have the blackberry enabler AND the tzones/tmobileweb plan

You just proved LittleJohn13 wrong... good thing that he didn't bet money on that.

Tmo was able to do it in the first few days that they introduced BB feature enable, after that, I guess they closed that loophole fast! I was able to surf with Opera the first few days but not anymore. :(

ill be happy to bet money.
Im just stating what i was told.If your friend really does have both hes lucky for a while.Ill bet in a few weeks it stops.
I think for the hell of it im gonna call TMO again and say..."well my friend has them both!"
Your not the only one who still has both.But everyone agrees its for a short time.

again.....as stated i was told NO ONE at TMO can apply both.There computers wont allow it :(

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8100/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

How much do you want to bet? I'll wager my pearl and say that even after a couple of weeks, it'll still be there lol

I was able to add the $5.99 Web Plan. Once I've added it, how long does it take for it to kick in?

SO you guys are saying TMO is lying to me?
Hmmmm maybe you guys can do me a favor and get the reps name you speak with.I really will call again in the morning.
For me to be told they cant save both in there system because the computer wont allow it and then you guys saying thats not true?Who do I believe.
The first time I called the lady told me it was added and was good to go.24 hour to see it.I get a confirmation message on my phone and everything but still no tzone.When i called them back I got the oops...it cant be done sorry.

Yeah they are lying!lol...Mine has not shown up on my account yet and I still cannot surf the web. If it is not working by tomorrow morning, I am definitely going to call back!

I just got off the phone with D!*k Fart Dunn from T-Mobile, and he told me that the T-Mobile Web was never added, even though I could see it on my account. He then told me to log out and log back in, but I could still see it! He started to get real upset, when I told him to stop trying to remove it and pretend like it was never there! It took retardo like 20 minutes to remove it and he finally did. Oh well......

T-mobile web will not work from what they told me, its incompatible with the BB. Its been 2 days since I had dropped the data plan and got the BB enabler and yet I'm still able to use Jive Talk and browse on BB browser but not opera mini and not able to use BB messenger or yahoo messenger.

interesting...

I know a lot of this is confusing, so let me clarify.

The BlackBerry feature enabler lets BlackBerry devices do what every other phone T-Mobile sells does for no extra charge, i.e. MMS, IM, and access t-zones. You do not need to have a text messaging feature on the account at all, if you're willing to pay 15 cents per message.

It does NOT give you access to the BlackBerry maps, Browser, or either push OR pull e-mail. Nor does it let you access the BB Messenger, since that does not go through text messaging servers but GPRS/EDGE data connections.

You cannot have both the T-MobileWeb for 5.99 + the BB Enabler, not because the reps are evil but because it is simply not possible. They're not capable of doing it because the systems don't allow it. Those of you that have the T-MobileWeb for 2.99 or 4.99 are still permitted to have both, because you have "grandfathered" features, which T-Mobile no longer offers. The reason is that each feature on the account has a specific code used for billing purposes, and the code for the T-MobileWeb for 5.99 and the BB feature enabler are not allowed on an account simultaneously. The code for grandfathered T-MobileWeb features has slipped through the cracks, so congratulations!

Also, T-MobileWeb is not designed to be used on a BlackBerry, and technically reps can remove it, but they won't. It really doesn't do a BB any good. It's designed to allow RAZRs and Samsungs and the like access to the limited form of the internet that they're capable of, namely wap-only sites like mobile.whatever.com.

You may be able to use the Browser or Maps or E-Mail for a limited time after adding the enabler until the network gets it all sorted out, and figures out what your phone is really allowed to do per the billing system. "Data Connection Refused" means that you have neither the BIS, BES, or Enabler on the account, so go add at least the free one you dork! Or, it means it isn't active yet, since that can take up to 48 hours.

Also, you may be charged for using the data features when you don't have a feature on the account. Most reps will tell you it can't happen, but I am telling you it can, and when it does it's ugly, since the unlimited feature isn't on there you'll likely be charged the international roaming rates for data access, i.e. $15/MB. I regularly use 10 MB a month, so that can be crazy. I will admit it is hugely unlikely that you'll be charged, but there is a tiny chance.

I hope this cleans up this thread a bit, since there is a significant and potentially dangerous amount of misinformation in it.

Oh yeah! A response to potential protests:

I know some users have been able to get full access to the internet etc. using the T-MobileWeb, but to be honest, you may have been able to get that same full access without paying anything at all. Randomly some customers have been able to get full internet access without paying anything, and slowly those glitches in the network are being fixed. Not to screw you, but to keep you from screwing T-Mobile.

Please don't call in to complain about it. There's nothing a rep can do to fix it. I remember when T-Mobile first closed the ports that were allowing internet access for free or for 5.99 T-MobileWeb pricing. T-Mobile closed all the ports at once, for BlackBerrys and all other PDAs (like the Dash, MDA, SDA, and Wing). My call center went from having 5 minutes of downtime between calls to 200 calls in queue with a one-hour hold time. T-Mobile immediately re-opened the ports to reduce the call volume, and ever since has slowly but surely been closing the ports one geographic region at a time.

And really, why would you call to complain that you've been getting a free or grossly discounted service for months and you want it back? Does that mean T-Mobile gets to charge you for lost revenue? Data takes a significant amount of bandwidth.

And the fastest speed possible for the EDGE network is 140kbps. 150 ain't happenin'. The reason is T-Mobile data allows two slots on a tower for downloading, each of which is capable of 60-70kbps max. Still not a bad speed, though. Suffices for my tethering needs.