my keytone is turned off, but when i press a number, it still makes the noise. how do i completely silence keypad tones?

there is noway to do it, i believe.

If you're in a quite room and have to make a secret call....just cough!

geeze...just like you cant silence the shutter when taking a pic. this one, though, pisses me off. epescially when im in a quiet setting. darn it!

Jin... can't do, BUT if you enter the phone-number-to-be-dialed FIRST in memos or a draft email, you can click the link and dial from there silently.

The only other way to silently dial is if you have the number set as one of your speed dials or you are calling from the address book.

If you are trying to call a number from those sources, that helps a little.

research prior to purchasing. would have told you that you couldnt do this. its pretty common knowledge.

This is not common to people who had been using cell phone other than BB.
A lot of people will think that turning off the key tone means turning off the tone when pressing any keys. This, is common knowledge.

Therefore, even though they did do some research before getting a BB, they will not research for this significant thingy.

Onth makes a really good point. I came from Motorola to BB and did not realize that this would be as important as I figured.

I was sitting in church a few days ago and my friend was giving me a number to put in and I went to dial it and quit really quickly because of the beeping.

I like the idea of putting it in the memo pad and dialing as a link however

What Onth said, turning off camera and keypad/dialing sounds are pretty obscure issues, enough so that I don't think anyone, even geeks, should be expected to know this kind of stuff BEFORE making a buying decision.

Moreover, such information is NOT commonly known, certainly not by people who do not yet own a Pearl. And even the manuals do not mention this kind of detail. Consider, for example, on page 203 of the manual is the only place that RIM says how to reset the phone. How bizarre is that! And considering how often a battery reset fixes OS problems, you would think RIM would give the instructions on more than one page, page 203 no less.

And I think it is nonsense to expect prospective buyers to research user Forums to learn everything there is to learn about the Pearl. Can you imagine how long it would take to digest all of the info in the BBF Pearl section BEFORE getting the phone. No thanks.

I am still learning things about the Pearl and I have had it since Sept 15, 2006.

Notwithstanding the above, once buying the Pearl one should always search BBF before posting questions.

I disagree I research every device I buy before I spend one red cent on it so I dont waste my hard earned money. I knew everything I wanted to know prior to buying my first BB.

I research everything that costs more than a fine dining experience.

I agree with you here to an extent. I realize there is a search button, etc. But sometimes the answers vary so much with newer users and some new ideas are better than the old ones on the thread.

I think that if someone asks a question and you know the answer lies in a thread and the answer hasn't gotten any kind of updates from a new mind then post the link to the thread in it.

Just a thought.

i guess my common knowledge that key tone OFF ment the key tones are supposed to be turned off, was inaccurate. anyway....aint no biggie. just minor things, but overall, i love my pearl.

Well, that's all fine for you, but I would bet 99.9% of consumers out there cannot research every fine point of an electronic device that they don't even own yet. I know I don't have the time to do that kind of research, and even if I did, I am sure I would miss something. Perhaps you did not miss a thing because you read RIM's 242 page manual and relevant threads here and perhaps on Howards.

Hats off to you for knowing everything about the Pearl before you bought it. But I think it's unreasonable to expect others, including the OP, to "research everything that costs more than a fine dining experience."

I made the statement in context of my post, where I said that BEFORE possessing the Pearl, for example, it would be unreasonable to expect someone to search user forums for answers about a device they have yet to buy.

In contrast, AFTER one gets the Pearl, he or she should then use the Forums search feature.

one thing I never said I bought a pearl. I was talking about my first BB which was a monochrome nextel 6510 and that was a long six years ago

Good idea. Also, check the FAQs. They have been updated over the past several months (thanks mainly to Lunkhead, and also to D_fisher, Perfect Storm, and others).
Main Page - BlackBerryFAQ

Just to vent for a second, the most annoying part about the dialing tone is that it's out of sync with when you push the key. It seriously confuses me when it will only make a sound for every other button push, depending on how fast I dial.

From now on I will type numbers in a memo field as suggested.

Or just add your friends to your Address Book. Then it is only the odd number here or there to confuse you.

I honestly believe that the keys are not that loud unless its dead silence, but just cover up the front speaker and dial with the other hand, that is what i do. I wish they had that option though, oh well

+1, this is the part that annoys me; I always dial faster than a phone can make key noises and the BB lags. Every other phone I've used can turn off the keypad tones (hello, 2001?) except this device. It's not our fault, it's a very poor design choice on the part of RIM (add it to the list).