but its SDHC.... it wont work... we have been through that part... the hardware in the pearl doesnt support it... am i not right?

Its the same card that was mentioned earlier, and actually I have yet to hear about a 4gb card, sdhc or not, with .1.101 that will not work. I know it should not but again no ones, from what i have seen, has not worked....

Over at pinstack fitter said both would work.

One that fitter got...
Amazon.com: SanDisk 4GB MicroSD / Transflash with SD & Mini Adapter BULK Packaging: Electronics

One that I got...
Amazon.com: SanDisk 4GB MicroSD / Transflash with SD & Mini Adapter BULK Packaging: Electronics

Exact same ASIN #'s and descriptions. If not I just bought an expensive 2gb card lol. I think it will work though

I notice that it, too, says SDHC on the card but not in the description. I'm guessing it's an SDHC card.

According to those that have tried it the SDHC cards work in the Pearl with .101 OS. There was another new thread out there in the 8800 forum that the poster said it worked in the 8800 as well. Whether or not it works in other devices (cameras, other phones) is a whole other issue for another forum.

The SDHC card works according to one poster a dozen posts or so up.

LISTEN UP FOLKS..
What's there not to understand?

4gb sandisk SDHC
PEARL on T-mob
with latest firmware (.101) from this site (not t-mobiles latest OS)

WORKS ..WORKS...WORKS

Got it?

prove it!

take a picture of the memory size while its in your BB to prove it...

like i want a screen picture of the bb showing how many bytes. that will makes this once and for alln done

Yeah, what Cory says!

I'm installing the latest OS and I bought the 4GB SanDisk MicroSDHC chip. If it does not work, I can always use the chip in one of my USB SDHC drives.

For getting the chip, I went to the ol' standby, eBay.

This seller is selling them at a Buy It Now for [the same price as Amazon?], $57, with $6 shipping.

He has over 27,000 feedback and a 100% rating. A great seller.

Here is a link to one of his auctions.

eBay: NEW Sandisk 4 GB MicroSD HC Secure Digital Memory Card (item 110148832352 end time Jul-19-07 18:07:59 PDT)

Thats funny, they have an amazon store and thats where I got mine from. Same company.

I noted that the pic on Amazon, which of course does not mean that it's Amazon as the seller, was the same as that on eBay. I did not check to see if the name of the seller on Amazon was the same as the eBay person, NextWeb Sales.

But of course, you are 100% right on, it's the same seller on both sites. Guess that explains the same pic and price.

Good observation. Hey, it was late when I did all this.

I do like his eBay auction because I was able to see his stellar feedback and was able to pay instantly with PayPal. Interesting too, his eBay auction had lots of warnings and info on this chip, whereas his Amazon ad was sparse on details.

The seller's eBay auction is very good on explaining compatibility issues of these 4GB MicroSDHC chips, what comes in the package, etc.

In my book, when an ebay seller takes the time to explain things, on top of having a remarkable 100% rating on 27,000 feedbacks, that seller gets my business.

Sidenote: He is in MN, I am in California, I am semi-hoping that maybe I will get this chip in Saturday's mail. Stranger things have happened when it come to the U.S. Mail.

Below is a pic people, don't try to press the links appearing in the image, ain't gonna work.

Geez, quite the skeptic are we?

yes i am... i'm sure everyone else here wants to know for sure it works before spending the money on it, this will prove once and for all and then there will be no more arguing.

I have to admit, i would like to see some pics, just to make 100% sure before i go out and blow $50. But over all, it seems pretty certain ant that the 4gb chip does work in the pearl. Kool!

Well, if he does not post the requested pic, you know I will when the chip arrives.

I'm skeptical too. I just don't see how the Pearl MicroSD slot was made SDHC compliant. And it seems to me that it is not the type of thing that can be upgraded via a firmware upgrade, unless as the one Member said, RIM made the MicroSD slot upgradeable [doubtful].

But we shall see. I will want those members banned who said that the 4GB SDHC chip works in their Pearls, that is, unless they provide proof of life, so to speak.

Interesting that those members whom have said it works have not responded to our requests for something as simple as a pic of the screen, despite them being on line quite often since the requests for confirmation were made.

the main reason i am skeptical is cuz one its a hardware difference and that RIM has yet to annouce anything. with BBs being as complicated as they are (internally and the complexity if the OS) then i would only trust RIM saying that it works, or if something here can post a picture to prove it.

make sense?

why would we say it works if it did not work?

we are here to help each other out

if i could take a pic i would,

believe it, i was skeptical, i took the risk and bought it, and VOILA

tmob PEARL, 4gb sandisk, .101 firmware..WORKS (at least mine does)

Add me to the list of respectful skeptics. My main reason is similar to Cory's: It's a hardware and File System difference. In addition the manufacturer, SanDisk, explicitly warns about non-SDHC-compliant 4GB SD cards only utilizing 2GB amid a host of nastier problems.

http://www.sandisk.com/Assets/File/pdf/retail/SDHC1.pdf

Be aware of [SDHC] specification compliant [...] microSD 4GB cards on the market. If these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards record data in a SDHC host, and are then used in a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host, issues and problems may occur. File system incompatibility, data corruption, and potentially you may actually lose the data/pictures. [

]In addition, if these non-compliant SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB cards are inserted into a legacy SD/miniSD/microSD host device, the host device may not recognize/utilize the card as 4GB, and it instead may read as a 2GB card. If the SD/miniSD/microSD 4GB card does not have SDHC/miniSDHC/microSDHC on it, it is not SD 2.00 compliant.

yes, sandisk warns,
honestly, sandisk support reps speak like robots,
they are clueless,
they read specs off sheets
they have not tested 4gb with PEARLS

and many tmob techies are clueless as well


i have, and a few others here have.
i wouldnt have believed it either
but my phone definitely has approx. 3.7 gb free
as do others here,

unless you're PEARL is different than ours, you're good

believe it...it works

The skeptics you're dealing with are commando techies - scientists, engineers, savvy technophiles, and the like. We're trained or paid or learned the hard way to be skeptical. And there's very good reasons to be skeptical in this case. [Don't take it personally] And by the way, it's more an engineering specification that data comes from, not a CSR.

Frisco, it looks like this is all on your shoulders.

is it does, then why is it so hard to take a picture prove it?!

I will just hold off until SanFrancisco tells us what happens, and judging by his other excellent post and How to's, i can guarantee he will provide ample proof along with excellent pictures to show us exactly what his experience is with it. SanFrancisco, I'm eagerly awaiting your update about the card, then we can once and for all put all this discussion to rest.

dido^

In terms of analysis, I gotta wonder why someone is able to install the latest OS and a 4GB chip, but does not have even a cheapo digital camera to take a pic.

I'll be checking Saturday's mail with anticipation, but on the other end, I suspect I may simply have another 4GB SDHC USB Drive.

No big because someday the Pearl will handle 4Gb chips, but maybe just not now.

Cross your fingers everyone.

Would you not think if .101 OS works then the newer OS of .154 will work also...honestly just wondering???

".154" is the package version of another older OS. ".101" is the app version from the latest package .164.

why do you need so much room in the bb pearl? it will be very slow if u use all the space.. if you need so much room for music or pictures then why not nust buy a real and good camera or ipod/mp3 player?? its alot more better then buying a 4Gb card for a cellphone, and how mush will this cost you?

You dont get it, one if you defrag the card often then it should run at peek performance. 2nd having the 4gb card eliminates having to have multi devices.

so it's obvious that the pearl i've got won't work with a 4GB card, but i want to buy one anyway so that i don't have to upgrade when i get a new phone.

if i buy a 4GB, will i be able to access the supported 2GB on it, or will the card not work at all.

It should work for all 4Gb if you upgrade your OS.

upgrade my OS to which version ? i'm running 4.2.1.96 ? the next OS release supports 4GB ?

No chip in today's mail. Was a bit optimistic to think it could arrive in one day. But faster things have happened with the mail.

Will see on Monday.

That's what this thread is referring to. So far 4.2.1.101 is said to work. I don't know if anyone's tried with 4.2.1.96.

Posted above

I cant believe everyone is still at each others throats about this.

oh ok.....i think i will go get one and try it with my OS to see. if it doesn't take, i'll step up the OS version. this is cool, 4GB of storage on a mobile phone.

Because it doesn't really make much sense. All in all, its been an unsubstantiated rumor. Only reasonable explanation is RIM installed a microSDHC interface and crippled it to only read microSD, which would be ludicrous, don't you think?

That would be like you buy a car that makes 100 hp, 0-60 in 15 seconds. Then all of a sudden an unknown source says you can flash the computer and make 200 hp, and cut 0-60 down to 8 seconds, you'd be skeptical too, right?

Yeah it would. I just think it's kinda funny because people are bickering like a married couple.

People defrag solid state memory?

Depends on the individual's needs/wants. I bought my BB's for device convergence so I'd totally go for a 4GB card.
Why do you say that? My 8800 runs the same whether the card's full or empty.

You know, being skeptical and foaming at the mouth are two entirely different things. If I was skeptical that the 8100 could take a 4GB card, I'd get one and try it out rather than rant on some forum site because someone won't take a photo to prove that it works. Guess YMMV as different people respond differently...

Well no one is bickering. The fact is, if you read all the threads and posts, no one has yet posted proof that the chip works.

The reason I titled the thread as I did was to tell those people who say that the Pearl works with a 4GB chip, OK.....prove it.

Proving it does not mean to simply repeat what was said in the past... "mine works with it." And those people whom have posted that it works have simply said that and nothing more. Some have said "they told me, or RIM told me." But that's vague too. That's all the same as we read before.

The only reason we are, as you say, still bickering about this is because so far no one will back up what they are saying except to keep saying theirs work with a 4GB chip.

You have to admit, for the people whom have posted that they have a working 4GB chip in the Pearl, seems odd they can't take a pic of the screen showing in fact it's working. What, none of these people have a digital camera?

And these discussions seem appropriate and in line for what this site is, a place to discuss BlackBerries.

I belong to all kinds of other forums [bikes, racing, motorcycles, and video]. On all of those people have sometimes "heated" discussions.

And the bottom line is, so what. I can't believe someone posted only to make a snide comment. I guess that assumes you have accepted that the 4GB/Pearl controversy has been answered in this thread. That's fine, you can form any conclusion you want, but I think it is still up in the air.