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OS: 8100 4.2.1.168/4.2.1.103 (Tmo) -
08-10-2007, 06:14 PM
A dude on a different BB forum said he had this OS on a replacement pearl he got yesterday. So far he hasn't discovered any new features though (just the usual "smoother", "more solid" spiel). I heard somewhere that Tmob was due for a new one any day now. Anybody know more? And I forget how to see what OS is on the phone.
08/15/07: Edit to the above original post:
TMobile has now released package v4.2.1.168/app v4.2.1.103 plt 2.3.0.82
It is available here:
TMobile.com
Instructions for loading this OS on ANY carrier's 8100:
Instructions for installing:
1. Make sure you have the latest version of Desktop Manager installed. It's 4.2 SP2. (The version listed on the TMo site is quite outdated, I don't recommend using that one.)
2. Download the above file to the PC then install it to the PC by running the file you downloaded.
3. Locate the vendor.xml file and delete it. It's located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
4. Plug in BB and Open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.
The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization." Don't unplug from the PC & Don't remove the battery unless the spinning hourglass has been there for 30 minutes or more. If the hourglass has been spinning for more than 30 minutes continuously you will need to wipe the device with JL_Cmder (close out of Desktop Manager during this process.) You will then end up with a white screen with small icons and an error code number like 507 or 543.
If you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507/543, simply connect to DM again and run application loader again and it should load the OS to the device.
Edited Blackberry.alx's and LBS.alx's are located here
*****08/17/07: Edit: TMo has pulled this OS for unknown reasons. It is not available to download at this time. The latest OS for the 8100 can be found using the link below:*****
(link to previous OS sticky thread 4.2.1.101 Click here)
BB 8900 Tmobile OS version 4.6.1.231 BIS
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08-10-2007, 06:27 PM
Edit 08/15/07: I have closed the other threads on this topic. Please keep questions, comments, and info on the TMo .103 OS upgrade to this one thread.
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08-10-2007, 06:51 PM
Thanks. It's ready to run if they installed it on his replacement phone. I suspect it'll show up pretty quick on the site. It's been awhile since Tmob did theirs, I'm interested to see what they did.
BB 8900 Tmobile OS version 4.6.1.231 BIS
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08-10-2007, 07:12 PM
Talk is that it will be available on Aug 13th! I heard from another bb forum as well.
Hope this helps!!!!
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08-10-2007, 07:19 PM
I can't wait for the new T-Mo software!
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08-10-2007, 07:20 PM
why does it matter if its from tmo or not? the newest OS has been psoted here, why not use that
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08-10-2007, 07:35 PM
This is what was posted on the other site!
On August 13th, a new software will be available on t-mobile.com/bbupgrade for the 8100.
The new SW, version 4.2..1.103, will fix the following issues:
Daylight Savings Patch (DST2007) – The new software will now included the DST2007 Patch
Audio - 2-5 second incoming audio delay
ABC indicator stuck on home screen
Reboot problem when switch to a blue tooth headset while on phone
Disappearing/Missing Call logs, SMS, Email and MMS messages
Freeze Issues
myFaves empty/transparent icon
Keypad unlocks at will
Voice only customers will now have access to the Instant Messaging application
To ensure customers download this new software, we will be sending out a sms message to Pearl users advising them to go to t-mobile.com/bbupgrade to download the new software
In order to prevent calls to customer care, the online instructions on how to download the handheld and desktop software has been updated to include screen shots and step by step instructions. [/font]
The benefits of the new software has been posted as well to encourage customers to download the software."
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08-10-2007, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigNewt
Thanks. It's ready to run if they installed it on his replacement phone. I suspect it'll show up pretty quick on the site. It's been awhile since Tmob did theirs, I'm interested to see what they did.
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Did dude say if the T-Mobile Zen theme was the classic 4.2.0 up-down scroll list, or the newer 4.2.1 grid style? I'm curious to see if T-Mo listened to all the complainers about the grid style and retro-engineered the up-down back into their branded release.
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08-11-2007, 01:14 AM
on 13th t mo got the 4.2.XXXX out were gunA FIND THE KINKS AND FIX EM ALL AMD POST IT OUT THERE
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08-11-2007, 02:18 AM
Actually, it's going to be released Aug. 14th, on Tues.
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08-11-2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by rivviepop
Did dude say if the T-Mobile Zen theme was the classic 4.2.0 up-down scroll list, or the newer 4.2.1 grid style? I'm curious to see if T-Mo listened to all the complainers about the grid style and retro-engineered the up-down back into their branded release.
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It will be almost identical to the .101 version already released. TMo Zen still will have the icons (grid style.)
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08-11-2007, 12:35 PM
For the newer t-mobile bb users, are there any screenshots anywhere showing the difference in the zen themes grid style versus the previous list style?
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08-11-2007, 12:48 PM
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It will be almost identical to the .101 version already released. TMo Zen still will have the icons (grid style.)
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dang! having played with both, I really like the up-down better. I might just be staying on .0.73 then, it's really solid.
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08-11-2007, 12:54 PM
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dang! having played with both, I really like the up-down better. I might just be staying on .0.73 then, it's really solid.
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Someone (San Francisco maybe) posted a fix to get the icons back in the list style. I've been looking for it but can't find it. If someone knows of the fix, please post it.
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08-11-2007, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by YMark
Someone (San Francisco maybe) posted a fix to get the icons back in the list style. I've been looking for it but can't find it. If someone knows of the fix, please post it.
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yeah, it's not a "fix" though, it's a hack - different beast. Basically you're using codeballs from a previous OS release on a later OS release -- this may work, but it may (not will, but may) introduce instability. I personally am unwilling to risk finding out there's a bug at the most inopportune moment of device usage.
I need (want, need, what's the difference  ) my device to be stable, it's the recipient of 911 info from all my automated systems monitoring for the company. That last thing I need when a server goes down is my BB to go down as well... (talk about taking a bad day and making it worse)
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08-11-2007, 01:05 PM
I have version 4.2.1.9.3 on my T-Mobile Pearl. It's not the one that was posted on the forum and it works fine for me. So why you would wait for Tmob version is beyond me..
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08-11-2007, 01:13 PM
i really dont get the post of this thread... people the newest OS is out, just download that one and call it a day...
what is the difference between this tmo OS versus the newest OS out already?
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08-11-2007, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cory Scheuer
i really dont get the post of this thread... people the newest OS is out, just download that one and call it a day...
what is the difference between this tmo OS versus the newest OS out already?
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Yeah it's been out for a while. We've downloaded and used it and want to try something new. What's wrong with that?
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08-11-2007, 05:41 PM
but will this new t-mob release SUPPORT 4 GB cards
i'm on .101, and dont want to upgrade to tmob's if 4 gb cards are not supported...
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08-11-2007, 06:56 PM
I would be quite surprised if it didn't.
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08-11-2007, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Cory Scheuer
i really dont get the post of this thread... people the newest OS is out, just download that one and call it a day...
what is the difference between this tmo OS versus the newest OS out already?
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When .103 comes out .101 won't be the newest anymore. 
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08-11-2007, 09:12 PM
opps i didnt see the .103 part 
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Why do the Tmo upgrade? -
08-12-2007, 12:23 PM
T-Mobile and RIM worked together to create the software update to fix the most commonly known issues that occur on the blackberry 8100, most of which were listed above... That is why you want to use the one that will be released on the 14th of August on T-Mobile.com. Also the difficulty with downloading other software that is not directly through T-mobile makes tech support on it somewhat limited at times...
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08-12-2007, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Cory Scheuer
i really dont get the post of this thread... people the newest OS is out, just download that one and call it a day...
what is the difference between this tmo OS versus the newest OS out already?
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Remember some people are afraid to experiment with installing another carrier's software. They are afraid. They dont want to void there warranty or something. For me it's no problem but not everyone wants to risk their $300 phone. So for those who have tmo phones this is a godsend.
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08-12-2007, 07:45 PM
uploading a new os should not void the warranty, unless it says so in the contract
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08-12-2007, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cory Scheuer
i really dont get the post of this thread... people the newest OS is out, just download that one and call it a day...
what is the difference between this tmo OS versus the newest OS out already?
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the connections are what make the difference. tmobile has certain settings to its own connections. so when you send a text or make a call, the OS that is made by tmobile is made for your service. i cant really explain what i was told, but it makes sense. if i use an OS from cingular or another service provider, connection setting may cause lag and cause other problems.
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08-12-2007, 09:38 PM
I humbly disagree.
The OS' are all written by RIM. The carriers test and release them. They don't write them.
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08-12-2007, 10:24 PM
i questioned that and they told me that RIM does create them all, but to certain specs for that carrier. which is why they don't all come out at one time.
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08-12-2007, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cory Scheuer
i really dont get the post of this thread... people the newest OS is out, just download that one and call it a day...
what is the difference between this tmo OS versus the newest OS out already?
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Just saw posted on another board (by two different people) that T-Mobile has now delayed releasing the update until Aug. 18th.
Apparently there was a bug with tethering the 8100, and T-Mobile wanted RIM to fix that issue, before the release.
Cory, could it be that T-Mobile has fixed problems NOT in the version of OS that you are talking about? My biggest issue has been the ABC icon appearing in the upper right side of the screen, blocking info that I need. That issue is fixed, supposedly, in this version. Perhaps it was fixed in the earlier version as well, I don't really know.
But, if all T-MO had to do was copy an existing OS from another provider, I'd think that RIM could have hooked them up a while ago, and that T-Mo would have therefore released the other vendor's OS months ago. Seems there has to be SOME reason T-Mobile is releasing a fix now.
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08-12-2007, 11:14 PM
The ABC icon issue has been fixed in the .101 release that is already released.
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08-12-2007, 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ShelW
Just saw posted on another board (by two different people) that T-Mobile has now delayed releasing the update until Aug. 18th.
Apparently there was a bug with tethering the 8100, and T-Mobile wanted RIM to fix that issue, before the release.
Cory, could it be that T-Mobile has fixed problems NOT in the version of OS that you are talking about? My biggest issue has been the ABC icon appearing in the upper right side of the screen, blocking info that I need. That issue is fixed, supposedly, in this version. Perhaps it was fixed in the earlier version as well, I don't really know.
But, if all T-MO had to do was copy an existing OS from another provider, I'd think that RIM could have hooked them up a while ago, and that T-Mo would have therefore released the other vendor's OS months ago. Seems there has to be SOME reason T-Mobile is releasing a fix now.
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There is no official word on a delay. And employees really need to stop pasting from internal resources ><
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08-13-2007, 12:12 AM
sorry I spoke too soon, fingers workin faster than my brain.
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08-13-2007, 12:14 AM
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I am in the process of downloading 4.2.0.64, I can upload it to a file share program if anyone is interested. I just logged into my tmobile account and went into the support area and it was ready for downloading 
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Welcome to the forums,
That is the old OS version for the Pearl from TMo. There is a new OS coming out soon. That's what this thread is about.
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08-13-2007, 01:47 AM
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sorry I spoke too soon, fingers workin faster than my brain.
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It's understandable. You're Sleepy. 
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08-13-2007, 07:53 AM
released or not yet?
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08-13-2007, 08:07 AM
Doesn't look like it is out yet. I just checked the TMO site and they still have the 4.2.1.91 listed.
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08-13-2007, 09:12 AM
Oh jeese same fricken story again. First it was the 13th then the 14th now possibly the 18th before long it'll be next month then the next ...... Ahhh!
If they keep this up well have 4.2.2 and the A2DP thing out to fix Bluetooth stereo before they even get 103 released.
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08-13-2007, 10:51 AM
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Doesn't look like it is out yet. I just checked the TMO site and they still have the 4.2.1.91 listed.
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The 4.2.1.91 is going to be the latest from TMo for the 8700. The 4.2.1.103 will be the latest for the 8100 (when it finally comes out.)
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08-13-2007, 01:43 PM
Just got off the phone with TMO tech support. The Update will be live tonight at midnight or noon 8/14/07 PST. This is 100% postive, he stated they were working on getting it up on the servers as we speak.. 
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08-13-2007, 02:53 PM
But my BIG question is will it fix the bluetooth DUN issue? the current T-mo software will NOT connect for me using bluetooth. I am using TIM ( I think) and it works perfectly as DUN but HORRIBLE as a phone. Calls not connecting, no voice during a call (lots of clicks and rushing noises but no voices). Basically, if I use the rodgers or tmo official loads voice it great but BT DUN doesnt work, and if I use the TIM load the BT DUN works but Voice is horrible..
Here's to hoping the NEW T-Mo load fixes both issues!
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