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Dawg · **OS:** 4.5.0.138

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Originally Posted by Mortgage_It

um, yeah...that's why this thread is in the "rumor mill" section. i see no problem with folks posting what they hear, read or see about upcoming models in the "rumor mill" forum.

I agree to some extent. But to say "I know a guy" is gossip and not a very credible. I can say i know a guy who says that BBF will give away new BBS to all new members. Is it a rumor or just a plain lie?

Mortgage_It · 02-06-2008, 07:27 PM

carsmovies: can you provide any further details on what you friend saw?

juwaack68 · 02-06-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawg

I agree to some extent. But to say "I know a guy" is gossip and not a very credible. I can say i know a guy who says that BBF will give away new BBS to all new members. Is it a rumor or just a plain lie?

More like we'll give away new BS, not BBS

Mortgage_It · 02-06-2008, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawg

I agree to some extent. But to say "I know a guy" is gossip and not a very credible. I can say i know a guy who says that BBF will give away new BBS to all new members. Is it a rumor or just a plain lie?

dawg - i agree with this statement as well.

it is very hard to determine who is b/s'ing us and who is not.

i must say...about 4 hours ago today i was having a blast reading this forum at work but now i wonder what is true and what is not and it's not much fun anymore.

Mortgage_It · 02-06-2008, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by juwaack68

More like we'll give away new BS, not BBS

bahahaha

BTW, what is a BBS?!

carsmovies · **OS:** 4.6.0.282

Ppl, if you're not supposed to post things you've heard in a rumour mill then let's stop talking in here period and just wait till the phone has been officially released or announced.

This person I'm talking about works at RIM and like I said saw and played with the CDMA curve. All he told me was that the keypad is aesthetically different than the current curve. That is a fact and not a rumour cause he saw it with his own eyes and not pics. Now he also told me that VZ is releasing it in a week or two, that to me is not fact until it's actually released.

Dawg · **OS:** 4.5.0.138

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Originally Posted by carsmovies

Ppl, if you're not supposed to post things you've heard in a rumour mill then let's stop talking in here period and just wait till the phone has been officially released or announced.

This person I'm talking about works at RIM and like I said saw and played with the CDMA curve. All he told me was that the keypad is aesthetically different than the current curve. That is a fact and not a rumour cause he saw it with his own eyes and not pics. Now he also told me that VZ is releasing it in a week or two, that to me is not fact until it's actually released.

None of it is fact. It is hear say (Rumor). You didn't see it, someone else saw it.

If you said you saw it that would be more credible to me. I just hate the I know a guy posts. I am gonna drink a beer and leave this alone for now.

carsmovies · 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dawg

None of it is fact. It is hear say (Rumor). You didn't see it, someone else saw it.

If you said you saw it that would be more credible to me. I just hate the I know a guy posts. I am gonna drink a beer and leave this alone for now.

Are we in a court of law now. lol. You better go have that beer cause you're obviously taking this all too seriously.

juwaack68 · 02-06-2008, 08:28 PM

Yes. The court of BBF. Please keep order in the court.

JSanders · 02-06-2008, 10:24 PM

We seem to have the same rumors being repeated here that the folks at BBGeeks are repeating.
BlackBerry Curve, coming soon to CDMA | BB Geeks

Does this mean the rumor has gone full circle now and we're citing each other as the source?

I don't understand why they say "The keyboard on the Curve doesn’t light up, but that’s no big deal." That statement makes me think the person writing the article has never held a Curve in his hands if he states the keyboard doesn't light up. And it speaks to a credibility issue, doesn't it?

gamingmonkey · 11:04 AM

in my opinion(no one probably cares) but the "i know a guy.." is BS. its simple everyone slightly exaggerates everything. One person will say "i got a new blackberry curve and im playing with it right now!" when in reality its just a 8310, but then someone thinks new=verizon. and then the second case they are just flatly lying. in other words post something with pictures or web site links. otherwise no one will believe you

djgreen · **Blackberr 8330 -** 02-08-2008, 12:58 PM

I work @ VZW.

Its hush hush on this thing, seriously.
Guaranteed it will block WiFi/GPS on the device.
Will have Silver styling.
3G on CDMA (Rev-0).
Beginning of Q2 or they're not doing it (wait for 8900 series).

Sith_Apprentice · 02-08-2008, 01:00 PM

that actually doesnt provide any information not listed on here. VZW goes with silver as the primary color on their devices. EVDO is a given, and they also always block GPS.

Dawg · **OS:** 4.5.0.138

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Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice

that actually doesnt provide any information not listed on here. VZW goes with silver as the primary color on their devices. EVDO is a given, and they also always block GPS.

I was thinking the same thing

purephase · **OS:** 5.0.0.93

What the hell is the 8900 series?

JSanders · 02-08-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by purephase

What the hell is the 8900 series?

Just keep reading here in the Rumor Mill section.

SapperLeader · **Photos now available -** 02-12-2008, 06:16 AM

For those of us patiently waiting it looks to be getting closer to reality

Pictures of the CDMA BlackBerry Curve | BB Geeks

complexx · 02-12-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by djgreen

I work @ VZW.

Its hush hush on this thing, seriously.
Guaranteed it will block WiFi/GPS on the device.
Will have Silver styling.
3G on CDMA (Rev-0).
Beginning of Q2 or they're not doing it (wait for 8900 series).

I doubt they would block Wi-Fi. It's not a service.

Jawsnj · 02-12-2008, 10:26 AM

We have photos, I repeat we have photos.

The CDMA first pics are up on BGR...now all we have to do is start debating actual release dates...let the speculation coninue...

First pics of CDMA BlackBerry Curve | The Boy Genius Report

toosmuth · 02-12-2008, 10:32 AM

Ok, I registered just to ask a couple of questions about this thread in particular (and this was done after a fair amount of research so hopefully they will not be stupid and might help others that come searching):

1. So clearly people are excited about the possibility of a CDMA version of the 83XX series (Curve) on Verizon/Sprint versus the GSM version on AT&T/TMobile--but why? Is the non-wifi internet service that much faster? Just trying to get a handle on why I would want to wait on this versus going with the TMobile Curve which also has wifi.

2. Speaking of which, doing a quick search it seems that many on here would rather use one of the other devices/carriers (and sacrifice wifi)--is the internet/data connection generally that good with Verizon/AT&T/Sprint that good that it makes the wifi that easy to sacrifice?

I realize this may not be adding to the "rumors", but hopefully it will help some people understand what the "fuss" is over this phone. And if it helps for background, I'm using an old Verizon Windows Mobile phone and Blackberry 72XX (provided by job that I must use) and am just trying to begin the process of finding the best model to replace both. Thanks for all the help....TS

Sith_Apprentice · 02-12-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by toosmuth

Ok, I registered just to ask a couple of questions about this thread in particular (and this was done after a fair amount of research so hopefully they will not be stupid and might help others that come searching):

1. So clearly people are excited about the possibility of a CDMA version of the 83XX series (Curve) on Verizon/Sprint versus the GSM version on AT&T/TMobile--but why? Is the non-wifi internet service that much faster? Just trying to get a handle on why I would want to wait on this versus going with the TMobile Curve which also has wifi.

2. Speaking of which, doing a quick search it seems that many on here would rather use one of the other devices/carriers (and sacrifice wifi)--is the internet/data connection generally that good with Verizon/AT&T/Sprint that good that it makes the wifi that easy to sacrifice?

I realize this may not be adding to the "rumors", but hopefully it will help some people understand what the "fuss" is over this phone. And if it helps for background, I'm using an old Verizon Windows Mobile phone and Blackberry 72XX (provided by job that I must use) and am just trying to begin the process of finding the best model to replace both. Thanks for all the help....TS

first, welcome to the forums!
as to point 1) EVDO (CDMA data) is much faster than EDGE (GSM data). The average speeds are twice as fast. It also does not limit you to the wifi areas to get fast internet. Verizon/Sprint also have a much larger coverage area than Tmobile.
for point 2) people also tend to stay within carriers because of the termination fees associated with switching. GSM carriers you can buy an unlocked GSM device and use your SIM in it, but you cannot do this with CDMA. If you are with sprint, or verizon, you have to wait until they launch the device you want, or your contract is up. The Curve for CDMA has alot of hype because they havent had a full qwerty keyboard with camera. Until recently, they didnt have a camera at all (pearl 2 launched 4th quarter of last year).

SapperLeader · 02-12-2008, 01:24 PM

I looking forward to the curve on Verizon mostly because the keyboard. The keyboard on the 8830 is just terrible (in my opinion) i go out of my way to avoid using it and that defeats the whole purpose of the Blackberry.

My wife's curve on AT&T is another matter the keyboard is a joy to use.

Maximus_Prime · 02-12-2008, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSanders

We seem to have the same rumors being repeated here that the folks at BBGeeks are repeating.
BlackBerry Curve, coming soon to CDMA | BB Geeks

I don't understand why they say "The keyboard on the Curve doesn’t light up, but that’s no big deal." That statement makes me think the person writing the article has never held a Curve in his hands if he states the keyboard doesn't light up. And it speaks to a credibility issue, doesn't it?

My curve keyboard used to light up, not anymore

the original white color is turning to Titanium color b/c of my curve is exposed to all kind of dirt/dust etc on my jobsite

voyager9355 · 02-14-2008, 12:53 PM

Hey all-

Had a call from my Verizon sales rep this morning...he called to tell me that the Verizon Curve MIGHT (keyword MIGHT) be released first quarter this year. It's about time.

Fletchi18 · 02-14-2008, 01:18 PM

Just thought I'd throw in my $.02 here... As someone said before, if they can't do the 'I know a guy who...' posts, then what is this forum for? If its not for 'Rumors', why isit called 'Rumor Mill'? Why isn't it called 'Fact Mill', with the rule that you need to have signed affidivits from at least 3 high ranking employees of either RIM or the carrier involved?

If you only want facts, don't have a vehicle set up for the discussion of rumors.

itsj · 02-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletchi18

Just thought I'd throw in my $.02 here... As someone said before, if they can't do the 'I know a guy who...' posts, then what is this forum for? If its not for 'Rumors', why isit called 'Rumor Mill'? Why isn't it called 'Fact Mill', with the rule that you need to have signed affidivits from at least 3 high ranking employees of either RIM or the carrier involved?

If you only want facts, don't have a vehicle set up for the discussion of rumors.

Meow

jibi · **OS:** 4.6.1.174

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Originally Posted by djgreen

(wait for 8900 series)

...since there isn't currently nor will be an 8900 series device, they'll be waiting for a very long time, eh?

RedSoxFan · 02-14-2008, 08:45 PM

Man, I can't wait too much longer for the Verizon Curve. My 8703e is on it's last leg. I really love the device and actually thought about buying another one until I checked out the Curve. It's the upgraded version of the 8703e.

I hope my 8703e can hold on a little longer. I really don't want to buy the 8803.

Sith_Apprentice · 02-14-2008, 08:46 PM

the curve for CDMA isnt going to be the same. the 8830 is basically a replacement to the 8703e, the curve and pearl are new animals altogether

blizake · 02-15-2008, 08:13 AM

My co-worker seen one yesterday at a Verizon symposium.

The RIM rep had one.

He said April or May

Sith_Apprentice · 02-15-2008, 08:16 AM

well just to point out, if the rep from RIM had it, and he truly was from RIM, he doesnt have control over the release date, and neither does RIM. VZW has to have it pass their QA after it passes RIM's QA. Also, RIM is notoriously tight lipped about these things, so if the rep was showing it off to that many people, he may very well have some job related issues on the horizon.

blizake · 02-15-2008, 12:11 PM

It was a little meeting yesterday.

My co-worker held it and everything it is cdma only not gsm sim.

he was only speculating on the release date though

itsj · 02-15-2008, 01:27 PM

love the pearl but a bigger screen and full qwerty would be nice, i hope its shares all the positive features i love about the pearl

forevergreen · 02-17-2008, 06:24 AM

Is there any other device or phone that takes this long to go from gsm to cdma? We're literally one year behind att? It is mind-boggling. I would have no gripes with my 8703 if not for the fact that the curve has been out and i've been watching it for over a year. Does anyone know if it's RIM or VZW that makes it take a full year? I could see there being an advantage to the carrier waiting on new products to maximize sales on existing products, but when other carriers are able to go full speed ahead, I would think that people jumping ship to get the latest and greatest would take a toll. I don't see myself going to att, but I was in one of their stores yesterday, and it's tempting.

jimpilot · 02-17-2008, 07:42 AM

I bet Verizon has a lot of marketing data that tells them this is the way to go. But it sure is a company first, let the customer wait attitude. As other carriers catch up in network coverage they will I expect feel a blacklash.

tomdkat · 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by forevergreen

Is there any other device or phone that takes this long to go from gsm to cdma? We're literally one year behind att? It is mind-boggling. I would have no gripes with my 8703 if not for the fact that the curve has been out and i've been watching it for over a year. Does anyone know if it's RIM or VZW that makes it take a full year? I could see there being an advantage to the carrier waiting on new products to maximize sales on existing products, but when other carriers are able to go full speed ahead, I would think that people jumping ship to get the latest and greatest would take a toll. I don't see myself going to att, but I was in one of their stores yesterday, and it's tempting.

RIM wants to sell more phones. GSM is globally adopted compared to its cdma counterpart which has only a handful of carriers. So it makes more business sense to get the the version out first that can sell the most phones......

forevergreen · 02-17-2008, 02:01 PM

I hear you totally. However, how many extra people would it take for RIM to release gsm and cdma at the same time? OR...if the same people that work on the gsm version started on the cdma version, surely that doesn't take a year. I mean, the rest of the unit is already complete? For these reasons, i would think it's mostly vzw holding things up. But I don't know jack.

purephase · **OS:** 5.0.0.93

I think the delay has been on the OS, not necessarily the device.

Sith_Apprentice · 02-17-2008, 02:14 PM

the device isnt anything like previous curves. keep in mind the first service to get the pearl 2 was CDMA, not GSM. RIM has been completely redesigning the devices to release them on CDMA. If they follow this pattern, this curve wont be like the GSM version but rather enhanced, and more of a curve 2.

forevergreen · 02-17-2008, 04:18 PM

Understood, but I'd love to have Curve I rather than wait for a slightly improved (but exact same form factor) Curve II. Oh well.