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Old 11-26-2007, 11:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Are there any significant differences between the OS on the 8700 and the Curve?

I'm considering the move, but am worried I am going to miss the bigger buttons and the trackwheel. Is it tougher to type on the Curve? I checked out the phone, but sometimes it tough to know the loss in ergonimics until you play with the phone for a few weeks.

One thing I've always wanted on my 8700 is the ability to Hotkey custom applications. Also, change the hotkeys for set applications like M for Messages. IT WOULD REALLY BE GREAT TO HAVE THIS ONE DAY.

On the curve will I be able to hide the Messages Ap? Is there a way to hotkey custom applications?

Is the Curve better or worse on the battery life?
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I loved my 8700, went to 8800 for 5 months, and liked it very well all except the keyboard. I just got the 8310 and love the keyboard... much more like the 8700 (slightly smaller, but you have the tactile feel of the 8700 as well as the definite separation of the keys). Type on this 8310 is much more like the 8700.

No customization of the hot keys. Yes the OS is better, a few more features/options. You can hide the message folder on any of the BBs.

Battery life? Yet to see.
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Hey thanks .. that helps.

I just upgraded the 8700 to 4.2 and maybe this was there all along, but when you hit the left side button and the track wheel you get the menau to move/hide icons, but also get the switch application. Is that available on the Curve?

So really no way to call a hidden custom application without unhiding it? Damn, THIS IS REALLY A MUST HAVE.

What's the best way to get RIM to consider some of these items on there enhancement list?

* HotKey custom Applications
* change current hotkey mappings
* create custom shortcuts

BTW, I've been playing with a T-mo Dash (HTC) running Windows Mobile 6 too. One single missing feature that makes the phone/OS completely inferior to the the BlackBerry... You can't clip/copy/paste from open internet content and between applications... even with third party tools. How microsoft mobile missed the boat on that is amazing.
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Yep, the Switch App is available from alt-escape on the Curve.

"Must have" for you is all personal preference. I like the homescreen shortcuts, easy to memorize, but that is me.
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Are there any significant differences between the OS on the 8700 and the Curve?
The OS is the same...


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I'm considering the move, but am worried I am going to miss the bigger buttons and the trackwheel. Is it tougher to type on the Curve?
The keys on the Curve are less grippy and a tiny more slippery due to the match-head shape of them but you get used to it after a day

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On the curve will I be able to hide the Messages Ap? Is there a way to hotkey custom applications?
Yes. You can do this although the process is alittle different.


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Is the Curve better or worse on the battery life?
IMO...I swear it is alot worse. Especially if you have WiFi on. My first day out with the Curve between 9am and noon I went from 100% to 65% . Because I didn't know how to turn off the Wifi my first day with it. Now with the WiFi off I go down to about 65% at the end of the day (8pm) after using the email and phone functions with bluetooth on. My 8700g would be at 70-75%.

But you have to figure that it will be worse since its the same battery that both device uses and the Curve is doing much more (WiFi, MP3 Media, Camera, GPS Maps) than the 8700g did. So I expected this.

They are almost the same size too. LOL!
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The OS is not the same. Please quite posting inaccurate information. All curves have OS 4.2.2 available, the 8700 does not. Close, but not the same. 4.2.2 actually has a couple nice improvements.
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The OS is not the same. Please quite posting inaccurate information. All curves have OS 4.2.2 available, the 8700 does not. Close, but not the same. 4.2.2 actually has a couple nice improvements.
I'm not trying to spread false info...
Apart from the obvious "nice improvements" of Media Capabilities upgrades, the Camera and WiFi. Its pretty much the same* layout and function the 8700g OS does. The Themes are the same, EDGE Web browsing is the same and email function and email push is the same and phone call functions are the same

Am I missing something specific that is profoundly different between the two OS?

* (When I say the OS is pretty much the same..I'm saying that in regards to the fact that the iPhone OS is drastically different that the RIM OS and both are yet again drastically different from the Window Based OS Phones. There are so many OS out there that when you juxtapose the Curve and the 8700g they are pretty much the same appearance-wise and function-wise compared to the multitude of other types of OS out there)
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I just spent my lunch hour at the t-mo shop around the block playing with the Curve. It's definetely lighter and thinner. Feels like a cheap Chinese product, though Im sure that's just the natural of smaller integrated circuits. We are at that magical moment in time where a PDA might be too small for comfort.

One thing i noticed right away is that you can create folders. Something I don't think I can do on the 8700 with 4.2.1.xx.

With the escape/back button and trackball on the front I'm going to need to retrain myself on navigating one handed, while driving with my left knee and eating lunch .. kidding.

I have to dish out $280 to upgrade with 6 months left on my contract. Amazon has the phone for free but for new customers..

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The Themes are the same
Oh yea, thanks, there are different themes allowed for OS 4.2.2.

I'll stand by the fact the OS versions are different. There are other improvements as well already mentioned. Yes, they are both RIM OS, so they are different than Windows, iPhone, etc.

The Curve is more one-handed, where I could use the 8800 one-handed, it was testy at times.

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