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Old 12-01-2007, 11:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Sure wish we could stop the provider games and be able to buy the RIM Blackberry's we want un-branded. If it helps I again call for RIM to open a few well placed RIM factory stores.
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Old 12-01-2007, 11:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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RIM has no desire to sell and support their devices directly with the public. You calling for a few direct to public RIM stores will not help. RIM is doing quite well selling millions of devices to the carriers.
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Please let us know how the call goes.
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Hmm.. if RIM makes an end-run around the carriers to sell direct, don't you think the carriers might be a little miffed, and have less incentive to sell BBs themselves?
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Old 12-02-2007, 07:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Who knows, it could catch on and Moto, Nokia and others will join in!

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Just think it's silly that RIM Blackberry consumers must even think about buying locked, branded BB's from another provider just to get features we want. RIM's 1st priority shouldn't be the providers, it should be the end users.
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The carriers are RIMs marketing department.
RIM tried marketing once (when they first started). They aren't good at it. They are an engineering company. They are smart enough to know what they are not good at.
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Old 12-02-2007, 09:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Just think it's silly that RIM Blackberry consumers must even think about buying locked, branded BB's from another provider just to get features we want. RIM's 1st priority shouldn't be the providers, it should be the end users.
Oh, ok. My BB doesn't do so well making a phone call or sending an email connected to one of RIM's many cell towers.

They gotta have the carriers in the loop.
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Old 12-02-2007, 11:40 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Who knows, it could catch on and Moto, Nokia and others will join in!
Nokia has corporate stores.
Its not ubiquitous, but they exist.
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The service providers should be in the loop, but like Nokia, Palm, Apple, and others device makers have shown factory stores give the manufacture a direct link to the customer for sales, service, feedback and training. Which can work very well in addition to the service providers. Many manufactures have found the service provider is not the only face they want when it comes to interaction with consumers. Branded and non-branded handsets can be sold, sale points other than the providers do work.

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Oh, ok. My BB doesn't do so well making a phone call or sending an email connected to one of RIM's many cell towers.

They gotta have the carriers in the loop.
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Old 12-03-2007, 04:15 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Palm is probably not a great example of a success story...
Do Motorola, Samsung, or LG sell directly?
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It has to be worth while in terms of $$ for RIM to sell directly. Selling directly means running a support division, which is clearly not their forté, and will cost them more $$. The question is, why would they want to bother?

I'd love to see a RIM Flagship Store, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Everyone need to take a deep breath and come back to reality!
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Moto does:
Motorola Worldwide - Shop

Not sure if Samsung or LG sell anything unbranded

But I sure wouldn't put either of those three in the same league as RIM, Nokia, Apple, etc.

RIM not only sells hardware, but the software and BB service too, which is also different from the other three named.



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Also back to the Palm comment, IMO the direct sales and the well placed brick and mortar stores are one of the only things keeping them relevant with some income coming in. Of course Palm is a different story than RIM since they are headed in opposite directions, both sell hardware, but only RIM sells software and the BB service.

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Do Motorola, Samsung, or LG sell directly?
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The reality is at least some feel RIM is missing out on an opportunity to make sales, service, and school it's customers about it's hardware, software, and BB service directly. RIM having direct access to it's customers, not having a service provider be it's only face towards customers is priceless (as Apple and other device manufactures have found)


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The reality is at least some feel RIM is missing out on an opportunity
And others feel that RIM is doing exactly what they ought to be doing.
We should all agree to disagree at some point.
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We should all agree to disagree at some point.
There's a novel idea!
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RIM is very successful at what they do. If it is not broke, don't fix it.
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