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Old 12-09-2007, 08:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi I have the curve 8320 by t mobile. Where would I go to see if it would work on a cruise ship and certain areas in Caribbean and central america...
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Old 12-09-2007, 08:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Two things come to mind: If the cruise ship has WiFi, that may work (at a price) and also T-Mobile has a coverage web site where they show which cruise lines (and ships) they have mobile coverage to.
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:16 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok I will be on the Valor which has 100 percent wi fi that is good... I wonder if it would be free if I used BBmessenger instead of emails.. Any thoughts?
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No idea - they probably charge for it, but I have no idea.
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Old 12-09-2007, 09:38 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I just recently took a Carnival Mexican Riveria cruise. They key is to turn off your cell radio and keep wifi on. That way, thru H@H, everything domestic and data will be free. Set your browser to IE if the wifi service requires a web login.
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Check with the cruise lines if their wifi is free you should be fine as far as phone calls check with the cruise line as well to see what rates they charge!
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Old 12-09-2007, 11:40 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Royal Caribbean supports Cingular/ATT. Or at they did when I was cruising a couple years ago.
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Half way down on that website is the pulldown box to find the ship. The per minute rate is $4.99, so even if the wifi costs money, it'll likely be cheaper to make sure all your calls go through wifi.
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Old 12-09-2007, 01:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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My 2 Cents on Cruiseships, WiFi and Roaming.

1. UMA is not possible on a cruiseship via WiFi. The technology used is very slow for the up and downlink. If you use you laptop or an on-ship computer you will see what I mean it will range in the area of 56K to 200K.

2. The cost of WiFi on board is usually charged by the minute. Most are 75 cents a minute for data access.

3. Calls while on board, if your cellular radio is on and you miss a cal they still charge you $4.99 for one minute of airtime to transfer the call. You can avoid this and leave everything turned on, if you go into your BlackBerry and turn off call forwarding.

4. Most ships that have cell service while at sea also have GPRS as well. No EDGE so your connection is slow.

5. I added the unlimited International Email feature and used only email onboard the ship. It worked great and was able to keep in touch 24/7 The cost of the feature for a 7 day cruise is only $5.00.

6. With T-Mobile roaming in the US Virgin Islands is free.

7. Most of the islands have plenty of open WiFi spots and it is easy to jump on UMA and make calls.


I think thats it for now.

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Old 12-10-2007, 06:00 PM   #10 (permalink)
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so do I have to actually enable wi fi on the BB to wokrm on the cruise???
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Yes they all use Satellite and what happens is that with a moving ship it must constinually reposition the transmitter / receiver to the satellite so there are up to 10 second lapses of no communication. Another issue is most cruise ships have blocked all ports outside of VPN and Web and email to prevent users from "taking advantage" of anything. My suggested is Unlimited Internaltional email while on the boat and WiFi off the boat. Please feel free to PM me with any questions. When t comes to International roaming and on cruise ships I have a lot of experience.
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If I pay extra to get wi-fi access on the cruise ship and use w-fi only, are my calls and e-mails billed at the normal rate?
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If I pay extra to get wi-fi access on the cruise ship and use w-fi only, are my calls and e-mails billed at the normal rate?
UMA will not work on the ship for calls you will be billed $4.99 a minute for phone service via your roaming agreement.

I would also not use WiFi on your phone while on the cruise. They charge per minute of use. 75 cents a minute, you must log in and log off, idle time still counts against you.

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So is there any way to make calls/get e-mails at a normal rate?
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:14 AM   #16 (permalink)
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So is there any way to make calls/get e-mails at a normal rate?
The only way is if you get your regular cellphone signal in or near a port.
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Old 12-11-2007, 10:24 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Royal Caribbean supports Cingular/ATT. Or at they did when I was cruising a couple years ago.
yes my coworker went on a royal carribean cruise this year and she was getting email and phone call on her bb. if royal caribbean supports cingular/att, would user pay international rate or domestic rate for data and voice?
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My post #9 addresses the majority of these questions.

To recap:

UMA onboard the ship: NO
WiFi onboard the ship: YES, but very costly and not worth it.
GSM: Most ships now provide GSM via AT&T, $4.99 a minute roaming, No way to get around this fee even AT&T customers pay this per minute fee, you are roaming.
GPRS: Most ships that offer GSM offer GPRS but no EDGE, so data service is very slow. Check with your carrier on how much roaming data is.

What can I do to keep in touch? At least with T-Mobile add the International Email option. This gives you unlimited access to your email for $5 a week. I used over 100MB of email data on my last trip so it was a bargain.

Can I use BB Messenger, Web Browsing, IM, etc for the $5 a week? NO, only email is included all other data is charged at your international roaming rate.

I am in port, what do I do now? The cruise line will turn off their cellular service when you are about 30 minutes from port. At which time your dsplay will change from a carrier showing a number like 901-372 to a local carriers name. Check with your carrier for the rates in the countries you will visit.

As for UMA while in other countries I never had a problem finding an Internet cafe or an open access point to link to to make free calls.

And a final warning. If you plan on leaving your cellular phone on while onboard the ship you must disable all the varities of call forwarding to voicemail or you will be charged $4.99 for calls sent to voicemail.

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Old 12-11-2007, 12:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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