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Old 12-16-2007, 04:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi all,
Just joined BB forum, and been reading so much information it great!!

I have however maybe what you would call a newbie question.

I have just been given a 8310 from Voda UK, and I have paid 15 per month for a data plan. I logged into BlackBerry Internet Service and setup a few POP3 mailboxes which I have. I can successfully see mails that are forwarded to the BB. However this is not really want I want. I don't want an expensive BES setup, however with the desktop manager V4.2.2 I have installed on my PC (which is on 24 hours a day with full internet), I am not able to sync my outlook folder list with my BB. What I want is to have the view of my PST effectively with all the mail from my PC on the BB which will sync when I hook up to the PC. Then when I am away via GPRS I would like 5 of my POP3 email accounts and have new mail delivered to my my BB. Its important that read/unread, delete, reply, updates are kept in sync wirelessly between my PC and BB.

Am I able to do this with BIS? This leads me onto my second question, there is load of mention of BIS, but where do I get it from? The only software I have is the Desktop Manager, do I actually need the mobilemail 15 from Voda or can I maybe install some software on my outlook that will keep my Outlook PC in sync via wire with the BB this would be excellent. Even if I have to pay for it I dont mind, I just want to have full outlook access via my BB.

Any direction would be great.....

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First, welcome to the BBForums.

1. You are not able to do that with BIS.

2. No ability, no such software.

You need BES, and you can find some personal alternatives for such from our sponsors, such as
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http://www.exchangemymail.com/bbforu...erry_offer.asp
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excellent, I did think that BES would be the only option, however I dont have an exchange setup, so I assume these companies would take my domain Sedo - Buy and Sell Domain Names and Websites of which I have 10 POP3 mailbox and sync them to the exchange server, and have full replication of my outlook on my BB?

In this case can I cancel my BIS with Vodafone? And can I still have my hotmail?
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You will need to inquire with them for details, but yes, that is their capability.

Be warned that Hotmail is a bugger with a BB. Only older Hotmail accounts were grandfathered in to push mail to a BB before Microsoft disabled that ability. If yours does not work, you will need to upgrade to Hotmail Plus for it to work.

You will need BES with Vodafone.

Good luck.
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Ok,

I have paied for a BES hosted plan, which means I have now an Exchange mailbox, and I have setup multiple ALIAS to work as my old pop3 accounts, setup my rules extra. So now Im BES!!!!

Question now I have a blackberry with Vodafone and I pay 15 per month for BIS which I dont need, I called them up to ask if I need to do anything else to have the BB work, they say I now need to pay 28 per month to have the BES service working???

This is crazy, I have just spent $30 a month to get a BES setup with a company, now I still need to pay VODAUK 29 just to be able to have GPRS?

Is there any way I can hack my BB and just program it to sync with MY shared Blackberry Server?

Do I need to tell vodafone at all?

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No, there is not. lol, you must take us for fools.

You must have BES service from your carrier, and cancel your BIS service. Sorta like the gas in your gas tank, you can't hack an auto and make it run on syrup, can you?
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Hi guys,
After a week of problems, the current status of my problem is that I have a Voda 8310 uk curve which is locked. Voda UK are now saying for me to have a BES for 28 per month I need a business account and not a consumer account. So now I need to start a new contract etc etc bla bla bla

What I am thinking of doing is obtaining my MEP unlock code somehow, unlocking the device via the FAQ, then just flashing the software so that the phone can be used with BES, and just pay vodafone uk the 28 per month rather then mess about with new contracts and so on.....

I dont understand why this is so complicated with VODA UK. So far to get my BES to work I have had to pay, 200 for a balckerry, 20 for a unlock code, 28 per month to Voda for the BES line, 20 per month to get my emails on an exhcange server......is this the only way I can do this?

How do I get my unlock code and what software should I put on the 8310 so that it works on the BES service?
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You can't do what you are saying you are about to do. You can try, but you will cry.

If you want BES service, you must pay your carrier for it. If you want premium whiskey in your belly, you pay more than for the cheap rot-gut stuff.

You also state that you have already paid 20 for an unlock code, so you won't need to buy another unlock code. Once unlocked, always unlocked.

There is not BIS/BES difference in the Operating Systems of the BB. It is one OS for both. You will not have BES until you obtain such service from your carrier.
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You can't do what you are saying you are about to do. You can try, but you will cry.

If you want BES service, you must pay your carrier for it. If you want premium whiskey in your belly, you pay more than for the cheap rot-gut stuff.

You also state that you have already paid 20 for an unlock code, so you won't need to buy another unlock code. Once unlocked, always unlocked.

There is not BIS/BES difference in the Operating Systems of the BB. It is one OS for both. You will not have BES until you obtain such service from your carrier.
Hi Jsanders,

Thanks for the speedy reply. Ok I have had Voda UK activate my account to BES, they confirmed that BES will now run correctly on the BB, they have removed the BIS service from my account. At the moment Im trying to active my BES from the device, but I cannot get the gprs to goto GPRS. Data services is on, however I think I have messed about with the software or something, is there something I can do ?
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I won't be able to help you with BES activation. I don't know it.

I do know this about the connection, pulling the battery while the BB is powered on, replace the battery and reboot the BB, will reset your connection.

Also, you can try Manage Connections > Mobile Network. Toggle the checkmark off, wait for it to turn off, and back ON.
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Im fine with the BES activation, however the process you have explained to get the GPRS I have done a number of times, however goes from GSM to gprs and thats it.........never goes to GPRS....is there anything else I can do, is there something like a hardcore reset?
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Check with Vodafone if they have completed to provision your contract with the BES option. If it stays at gprs the provisioning is not yet completed.
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ditto acnst, could be not completed yet.

A battery pull reset IS the biggest baddest reset there is for a BB. The only thing greater is to reload the OS.
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ok VODA UK have just confirmed that becuase Im on a consumer account, they are unable to put the FULL BES service on my account. Which means that I will need to upgrade my account to a business account and call the number 08702646923 during business hours!!!!

This is basically screwed me now, because the whole point of me going via Voda was that I wanted my mobile sim number to be intergrated on the blackberry for emails and phone calls. But now it seems the only way to get this done is to upgrade my actual tarrif to business to be able to use BES. God know how much this is going to cost me....if I knew this I wouldnt have bothered and just left my emails on pop3 and RDPed to my desktop or something......
what an absolute nightmare
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but you already knew they required you to have a business account



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Voda UK are now saying for me to have a BES for 28 per month I need a business account and not a consumer account. So now I need to start a new contract etc etc bla bla bla
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