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Old 12-23-2007, 10:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 12-23-2007, 11:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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If you are that paranoid of the "corporate dick" then, yeah, it's probably best you cut the link.
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

I agree with John, if you are that worried don't use it.
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I don't use it at home (the wi-fi) and I am considering separating my personal and work communications. So cudos on pointing out simple security 101. That is not exactly an easy thing to do, and certainly not convenient.

My point is, there is no information out there about what the admins on the BES side can see when you are attached to a wi-fi network. At this point it's pretty much academic from my point of view. I am curious to know how much visibility the BES has on the device and connected networks.

The GPS units raise even more interesting questions, but I don't wish to be written off as a crazy cat lady.

I am interested to discuss how much the BES can track through the device and where the boundaries are.

If you wish to simply dismiss me as a paranoid that's fine, but I think I am bringing up a point that needs to be discussed - convergence of all these goodies with the cell phone and what that means to your privacy. I think some people might think it's important.

I will keep an eye on this to see if anyone has anything meaningful to add.
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"corporate dick" is meaningful? You're not going to get much info out the BES admins around here when you call them names like that.
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:27 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

I cannot discuss how but if you work for certain govt agencies the ans is YES.
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:39 AM   #7 (permalink)
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For one--it's been discussed over and over and over. If you are on BES, you should know that anything you do (your record of calls, IMs, Emails, PINs, browsing sessions, etc.) can be logged and viewed by your BES admins. Anything.

i personally don't know if they can "activate your phone by WiFi and listen". I don't think so, of course, you would at least need to be within range.
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If you REALLY are serious about splitting your company and personal communications, get you own phone. I find it much to expect to use your company's equipment and airtime and have no change they they can know something of what you are doing.

Pay for and get your own phone!
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:03 AM   #9 (permalink)
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I'd try cross posting in there or asking the BFF admins to move/copy your post there.

There's a TON of stuff that a BES admin can do. Question is do they know how to? I'm looking at our BES servers and currently do not see any options for remotely turning on the phone and listening. 'Course I could be missing it and not seeing the special "Big Brother" section of options.

I think all the above posts hit it on the head. If you're concerned and have the means to get another phone, then do it. Just b/c they give it to you doesn't mean you have to use it for personal stuff. Unless you're in the military and they give you a direct order that you CANNOT use anything else, then I think you have options.

BTW, according to the GPS built into your phone, I see the Walgreens 1.5 miles from your current location has a coupon on Tender Vittles and Kitty-chow.

HTH.
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Hey guys, thanks for the responses. To the BES admins - I did not mean the BES guys are "corporate dick", perhaps a better choice of words would be in order. If someone wants to investigate you or poke around, the BES guys would end up with the chore list I am sure. No disrespect intended.

Anyway - my concern was mostly academic. It's very easy for me to keep my home network separated and aside from tunneling (which I can control when it's on or off), I feel pretty comfortable that there is little risk - but having an always on connection between my network and work - well - that raises some concerns. We are always so busy protecting the company data that we may overlook our own.

On a humorous note, it's interesting to contemplate someone trying to locate me and logging my activities around 10:30 AM to see that I am on wsj.com or usatoday reading the paper and dropping the kids at the pool With GPS they could probably figure out what stall I am in.
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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With GPS they could probably figure out what stall I am in.
Giving new meaning, of course, to "Corporate Dick".
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Old 12-27-2007, 02:24 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Giving new meaning, of course, to "Corporate Dick".
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! I just about fell off my chair laughing!!
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