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Old 01-24-2008, 01:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a Blackberry 8300 but I don't have a data plan. so no enterprise activation for me. My provider is Telfort a Dutch one. and only KPN has the data package and Vodafone. Easy to switch between providers but I'm bounded with a contract of a year.

No I still want to use the browser but it says I have to activate first.

It says that I have to contact my provider to activate my browser.

Is there a way I can fix that and then also use the email function but then push my mail for example with emoze.

Or Or Or is there somebody here that has his own enterprise server and wants to help me.

Is there a way to disable the gprs on the blackberry curve 8300.
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Old 01-24-2008, 01:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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You can't get any data (browser, email, etc.) on a BB without a data plan.
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You can setup a personal BES plan, see the sponsor list on this forum. The vendors there are reputable.

What do I need a Data Plan for? - BlackBerryFAQ.com
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you can use the browser without using the data plane using WiFi on the 8320 (not sure if you need the data plan on your account to access the internet or not (I have it so never tested it without the data plan to see if wifi works)
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The user is not on an 8320 with WiFi.
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And he doesn't have/want a data plan so a BES won't do him any good either. Nothing he can do without a data plan.
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You say your carrier does not have a Data Package. I am going to guess you mean they don't have a BlackBerry data package. If they do offer just a generic data package you could possibly use Opera Mini for web browsing but no email other than web based.
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Or Or Or is there somebody here that has his own enterprise server and wants to help me.
Already mentioned but you need a data plan or else BES is useless.

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Is there a way to disable the gprs on the blackberry curve 8300.
Why would you want to disable data? You definitely can't do anything if you turn it off.
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A friend of mine is going to install a BES or a BIS server on his server he has a own company if he's installing a BES or BIS am I capable to use my mail and browser on my BB 8300
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Also anybody knows how I can disable the gprs on the BB with some kind of software? There has to be a way I guess because with RIM software you can do almost everything.
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A friend of mine is going to install a BES or a BIS server on his server he has a own company if he's installing a BES or BIS am I capable to use my mail and browser on my BB 8300
No. BIS is only operated by carriers. BES and BIS both require a BlackBerry data plan.
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Also anybody knows how I can disable the gprs on the BB with some kind of software? There has to be a way I guess because with RIM software you can do almost everything.
As has been asked, WHY would you want to disable GPRS - which is the way that the BlackBerry sends/receives data - with a data plan.
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I don't have a unlimited internet account yet on my phone yet it's going to be active in a month of 2. Now i have to pay for every data I send and that will be very expencive for me on the end of every month.
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"Manage Connections" --> "Mobile Network Options" --> "Data Services" --> set to "Off"
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"Manage Connections" --> "Mobile Network Options" --> "Data Services" --> set to "Off"
Once I did that It still says gprs in the top near by my connectivitie of the signal. But data Services is set to off. Is it still sending or is that normal?
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No. BIS is only operated by carriers. BES and BIS both require a BlackBerry data plan.
So my friend isn't able to set up his own BES or BIS server. I thought if i have a unlimited internet account on my phone I could activate my phone on that server and use all the BB options.

What sort of options do I have when we install everything on the server? or are there other options.

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GPRS is going to be active whenever the radio on your Blackberry is turned on. If you turn off data services that should cover you for no data access fees.

Setting up a BES server is quite difficult and expensive. The best option is to use BIS (you don't set up a server - you buy a Blackberry Data Plan) or use a hosted BES service. That's probably going to cost you more than using BIS, and you still need a BB Data Plan, but it will give you wireless sync of calendar and contacts.

There really is no hacking the Blackberry OS. Folks have been trying for years, and nobody's gotten anywhere. In fact, people are trying to do relatively minor things like work around Verizon's blocking of the GPS functions and can't get to first base even with that. There really is no getting around the need for a Blackberry Data Plan.
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So my friend isn't able to set up his own BES or BIS server. I thought if i have a unlimited internet account on my phone I could activate my phone on that server and use all the BB options.

What sort of options do I have when we install everything on the server? or are there other options.
There is no possible way to use "all the BB options" without a data plan.

Not maybe but it is not possible.

You likely need to look at other devices.
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So my friend isn't able to set up his own BES or BIS server. I thought if i have a unlimited internet account on my phone I could activate my phone on that server and use all the BB options.

What sort of options do I have when we install everything on the server? or are there other options.
There is no BIS server to set up. You enter the info for your email address and you're done.
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Why get a BB without a data plan?
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Why get a BB without a data plan?
My provider is not a BB supplier yet and it's not really sure when they do, So they don't support BB. The only suppliers in the Netherlands are KPN and Vodafone. I have a subscribtion at Telfort and that one ends in approx 2 years . don't know if I can get only the data plan of 1 of the other suppliers here.

Thats why I was thinking to set up own server with a friend at his company if that was possible.
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