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Old 04-27-2008, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am always on a 3 year contract and one year has passed so I am at 2 years and eligible for another upgrade. However, the pricing seems weird, rather than giving it to me for 3 year contract price (which is already so high $249.99-8110 and $299-8310), they add another $100 since I won't add data and just get the $15 unlimited e-mail.

For suggestions, what do you guys think I should do? Just get an unlocked phone from across the border? The only thing holding me back is that it may not work under Rogers at full potential. If it isn't for that, I would consider 8120 or 8120 or iPhone down from the states as none of them belong to my carrier. Another good aspect of this is that my contract wouldn't extend again to 3 years.

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An unlocked GSM device from the US, or other GSM carriers, will work just fine on Rogers network.
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At its full potential? like website, download, e-mail?? even though I probably won't get data initially...just e-mail plan.
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You are confusing two matters, unlocking and a Data Plan.

Without the Data Plan, you won't have RIM push email, the BB browser, etc., which has nothing to do with locked/unlocked.
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At its full potential? like website, download, e-mail?? even though I probably won't get data initially...just e-mail plan.
All "unlocking" does is release the device from a specific carrier to be used with other carries. That is all. I have used many unlocked devices in the past and have had no problems what so ever (speaking for myself of course). features and benefits rely heavily on which device you're using and on what carrier. There are many rogers customers using t-mobile/at&t branded devices on rogers' network.
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Wouldn't an unlocked AT&T/T-Mobile device used on Rogers network still face roaming charges, etc.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:36 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wouldn't an unlocked AT&T/T-Mobile device used on Rogers network still face roaming charges, etc.
No, not with a Rogers SIM card and a Rogers service contract. That is the whole purpose of unlocking, so that it could be used on another carrier with their SIM card.
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Does anyone on here do the Sim-Card swap on plans between Canada and the US? I'm actually managing 2 phones, the BB in Canada and mostly use a MotoRoazr v8 on AT&T in the states.

Swapping sims in the MotoRazr was a pain in the butt to reconfigure all the settings, so I haven't even attempted it on the BB, especially since the sim is so hard to get to.

Anyone doing something like that?

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Does anyone on here do the Sim-Card swap on plans between Canada and the US? I'm actually managing 2 phones, the BB in Canada and mostly use a MotoRoazr v8 on AT&T in the states.

Swapping sims in the MotoRazr was a pain in the butt to reconfigure all the settings, so I haven't even attempted it on the BB, especially since the sim is so hard to get to.

Anyone doing something like that?

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I thought one of the features of the 8800 series was that it could handle two cell numbers. Just a thought that would be easy to verify.
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Old 04-28-2008, 06:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I thought one of the features of the 8800 series was that it could handle two cell numbers. Just a thought that would be easy to verify.
Two cell numbers, yes, but with one carrier.

To have a Canadian # and a US number you would have to have two SIM cards and swap them back and forth.
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unless you get the specail adaptor for you to have 2 SIMs in one slot...
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:02 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I know exactly how you feel about Rogers and thier prices....INSANE!
Not only does the plans you sign into suck...like they dont even have unlimited texting! you pay 12 buck for only 1500 msgs!
Also you pay hand and foot just to get a phone! My old nokia broke so i had to upgrade after the minimum 6 months period...i paid $120 penelty for that...and this was just when the curve was relesased so i was already paying something like 399 for the phone but i also had to pay an extra 150 for no data! and this was with $100 off through a corporate plan!!!!!!!!!!
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You just have to get a good deal with Rogers.

They do have unlimited texting available via retentions only. If you think their phones are too expensive then don't buy them. Buy them unlocked.

We may get ripped off when it comes to data, but if you go for the $15 unlimited e-mail and the unlimited browsing via opera then it is not so bad.
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The real problem for me is just the roaming -- I'm constantly flipping between Ontario and California and there is no single plan that works on data and voice in both areas. So I just carry two phones now and deal with it -- I use my motorazr AT&T when I need to conf call and make outbounds and use the BB for quickies, inbounds and email. It seems to work.

I'm on a Pay as you go plan on ATT and it's only $0.05 a minute in CA.

Ultimately though, I need to restrict my browsing when in California because the pay-as-you go data is just as expensive as the Rogers roaming data ($0.02 a kb). So using google maps to find the nearest starbucks is often 3x the cost of the coffee

Funny enough though, the Rogers rep we have was telling us back in the 90's there were American companies coming up here to buy up Canadian cell plans because even with Roaming charges, the 0.65 dollar made it way cheaper. So, things change, eventually I'm sure we'll get something decent.

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At its full potential? like website, download, e-mail??
A GSM BB is a GSM BB.

The stuff you're asking about is all handled by the service books which are pushed to the BB by the carrier's network when the BB registers itself on the network. The BB itself doesn't matter. That's one advantage to the BB platform that rarely gets mentioned. No need to worry about settings other than the TCP settings for certain 3rd party apps (and being on BES I don't even have to worry about this).

There are countless people using unlocked BB's with other carriers if you look/search through the threads.

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