BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-30-2008, 02:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Model: 0000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 36
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Push E-mail

Please Login to Remove!

Can I get push e-mail without getting data plan? I am with Rogers and I will just get the $15 unlimited personal e-mail.
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 02:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
Dinan3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: The Land of Ferraris, Moviestars, and Bumbs
Model: 9000
PIN: & Teller
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 590
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

in short...no.

you need data. unless rogers has a specific blackberry e-mail only plan. it won't work with any other generic data or e-mail plans.
__________________
When you turn on your phone, does it return the favor? Welcome to BlackBerry!
________________
ubuntu-LINUX 8.04

Last edited by Dinan3 : 04-30-2008 at 02:47 AM.
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 03:20 AM   #3 (permalink)
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
doe4040's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London, UK
Model: 8707v
OS: 4.2.2.186
PIN: 2503A700
Carrier: Vodafone UK
Posts: 262
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

From experience if you set up a Nokia with Symbian OS correctly, you can recieve email at almost push speed. However it requires you leaving the phone connected to your inbox. On the other hand you can set up the Nokia with your details and select 'retrieve email' every now and again.
Hope this helps.
P.S. the same goes for such things as the M and P series Sony Ericsson phones.
__________________
"All of the things I enjoy are immoral, illegal, or fattening" - Oscar Wilde
"All of the things I enjoy have a Wife Approval Factor (WAF) of 0" - Me
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 04:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
akosnitzky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Model: 9650
OS: 6.0.0.333
Carrier: Verizon BIS
Posts: 14,484
Post Thanks: 6
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (Verizon 8830)

http://blackberryfaq.com/index.php/W...ta_Plan_for%3F
__________________
------
Follow @akosnitzky on Twitter

LET'S GO CANES!
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 06:40 AM   #5 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.81
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 116
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cell_gruz12 View Post
Can I get push e-mail without getting data plan? I am with Rogers and I will just get the $15 unlimited personal e-mail.
Looking at the Rogers site, it says in the 'Blackberry Personal Email' plan description that:

* Real-time push email delivery is available with Rogers Yahoo!, Yahoo! Mail, and Google gmail accounts integrated with BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service). All other personal email is delivered every 2 15 minutes depending on the service provider and the frequency of use.

So it depends on where your mail is coming from. It also appears that the plan will require you to get setup on BIS.

Note that Rogers does take steps to force you into specific Blackberry plans, so they may play games with your device. For instance, if you get the basic BIS plan but try to get connected to a corporate BES, you'll find that connections to your corporate BES are blocked through Rogers until you upgrade to the BES plan.

Also, with the $15 unlimited email plan, other connectivity is not permitted, so things like the built-in Yahoo and AIM clients can't connect. It doesn't include web browsing either.
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 07:39 AM   #6 (permalink)
Appleinator
 
Dubdub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Hampshire
Model: App5
OS: AJBR549
PIN: Ask
Carrier: ATT & Verizon
Posts: 20,033
Post Thanks: 54
Thanked 782 Times in 742 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by doe4040 View Post
From experience if you set up a Nokia with Symbian OS correctly, you can recieve email at almost push speed. However it requires you leaving the phone connected to your inbox. On the other hand you can set up the Nokia with your details and select 'retrieve email' every now and again.
Hope this helps.
P.S. the same goes for such things as the M and P series Sony Ericsson phones.
But the OP is asking about the BB.
__________________
-->>BB FAQ

-->>Stinsonddog's Tip Site!

-->>Twitter


If someone helps, tell them by clicking the Thanks button.!!
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 08:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
Retired BBF Moderator
 
Sith_Apprentice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.xxx
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 10,149
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KeyLoveMobile View Post
Looking at the Rogers site, it says in the 'Blackberry Personal Email' plan description that:

* Real-time push email delivery is available with Rogers Yahoo!, Yahoo! Mail, and Google gmail accounts integrated with BIS (BlackBerry Internet Service). All other personal email is delivered every 2 15 minutes depending on the service provider and the frequency of use.

So it depends on where your mail is coming from. It also appears that the plan will require you to get setup on BIS.

Note that Rogers does take steps to force you into specific Blackberry plans, so they may play games with your device. For instance, if you get the basic BIS plan but try to get connected to a corporate BES, you'll find that connections to your corporate BES are blocked through Rogers until you upgrade to the BES plan.

Also, with the $15 unlimited email plan, other connectivity is not permitted, so things like the built-in Yahoo and AIM clients can't connect. It doesn't include web browsing either.

How is this playing games at all? The Corporate plan allows for other things than the personal plan. And to get email on the device, you need a BIS plan from ANY carrier, its not just Rogers. BIS is setup between 3-15 minute intervals for nearly all emails (carrier.blackberry.net/gmail/yahoo excluded)
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 12:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Model: 8330
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell Mobility
Posts: 101
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Correct. I have 2 users in my office on personal BB's that signed up for the Rogers $15 "unlimited" email plan (I wonder how many of those poor folks are suckered into thinking that includes unlimited browsing?) and Enterprise Activation isn't even an option on their devices.

Quote:
Originally Posted by KeyLoveMobile View Post
Note that Rogers does take steps to force you into specific Blackberry plans, so they may play games with your device. For instance, if you get the basic BIS plan but try to get connected to a corporate BES, you'll find that connections to your corporate BES are blocked through Rogers until you upgrade to the BES plan.

Also, with the $15 unlimited email plan, other connectivity is not permitted, so things like the built-in Yahoo and AIM clients can't connect. It doesn't include web browsing either.
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 07:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Model: 0000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 36
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by legacyb4 View Post
Correct. I have 2 users in my office on personal BB's that signed up for the Rogers $15 "unlimited" email plan (I wonder how many of those poor folks are suckered into thinking that includes unlimited browsing?) and Enterprise Activation isn't even an option on their devices.
Do you by any chance know if those users are getting push? or do they have to pull. I would love to have an alert whenever an e-mail comes in.
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 08:02 PM   #10 (permalink)
Retired BBF Moderator
 
Sith_Apprentice's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.xxx
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 10,149
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

BB is not a pull device. if they get email, its push.
Offline  
Old 04-30-2008, 11:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Model: 0000
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 36
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

But how would it be continously checking for e-mail and pushing. I heard if I get the $15 personal email plan, its no browser or anything. I only get e-mail. I hope its still push
Offline  
Old 05-01-2008, 09:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
BlackBerry Mensa
 
takeshi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Model: 8310
Carrier: at&t
Posts: 7,741
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

All BB email is push. BIS is set up to poll your accounts but once BIS retrieves mail it is pushed to the BB. The BB does not support pull email (BIS and the BB are two separate things).
Offline  
Old 05-01-2008, 03:53 PM   #13 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.81
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 116
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sith_Apprentice View Post
How is this playing games at all? The Corporate plan allows for other things than the personal plan.
I consider it game-playing when they force you to upgrade to the 7MB plan from the 4MB plan in order to access a BES from home on a third-party ISP. It was working fine on the 4MB plan, but then I called them for another issue and revealed that I was on a BES, and low-and-behold, suddenly I couldn't get BES access anymore from my home wifi. As soon as I upgraded to 7MB plan, I could reach it again.

It appears they have the ability to block access to a BES even if the traffic is not carried on their network.
Offline  
Old 05-01-2008, 05:10 PM   #14 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Model: 8330
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Bell Mobility
Posts: 101
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

It's through BIS, so it must be pushed to the BB from the BIS service.

I just set up BIS to sync with my Gmail account and it works pretty quickly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by cell_gruz12 View Post
Do you by any chance know if those users are getting push? or do they have to pull. I would love to have an alert whenever an e-mail comes in.
__________________
Blackberry Curve 8330 @ 4.3.0.124 (3.1.0.71)
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.