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Old 04-30-2008, 08:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i thought the GPS communicated with an actual satellite?

why is it then that when my phone is out of service, the GPS doesnt work either?

whats the point of a GPS if it doesnt work w/o cell service?
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The GPS uses both. The satelites give position but the cell service provides the data stream to pull up the map and directions.Basically it converts the coordinates to readable format.
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so in other words, using the Curve as a handheld GPS unit if your hiking or in an area with no service is not possible. dumb. especially for 10 bux a month!!
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Yea, I am not sure who you are calling dumb... the one making the $10 bucks a month?

If you had another hand held device, like a Garmin, it would not work either without having paid for a subscription. It's just not free.
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Yea, I am not sure who you are calling dumb... the one making the $10 bucks a month?

If you had another hand held device, like a Garmin, it would not work either without having paid for a subscription. It's just not free.
im definetly the dumb one in this equation.

i have a garmin in my fiance's car and it doesnt require a subscription. it runs on battery and last pretty damn long on a full charge. i wouldnt call it a "handheld" but i have taken it into the woods and turned it on only when i needed it and it works fine.
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GPS will work without service. It just depends what program you are using. some programs which are for speed and tracking only are fine, but if you need a turn by turn map it has to grab those bits and pieces from the internet. I know some are talking about being able to store maps on the sd card, but I have not tried these yet. Look in the GPS section for more info or google blackberry gps apps. SOme turn by turn programs like nva4all are free and work great, but do require internet.

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i have a garmin in my fiance's car and it doesnt require a subscription.
And you do know I was just razzing you.

The Garmin--you actually paid for the subscription when you purchased it...
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GPS will work without service. It just depends what program you are using. some programs which are for speed and tracking only are fine, but if you need a turn by turn map it has to grab those bits and pieces from the internet. I know some are talking about being able to store maps on the sd card, but I have not tried these yet. Look in the GPS section for more info or google blackberry gps apps. SOme turn by turn programs like nva4all are free and work great, but do require internet.
ahh cool. so there are other option for GPS apps other than the default one that comes on the curve.

any one in particular worth looking at that doesnt require internet?
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MobileGMaps works well and you can load maps onto your microSD card. GPS itself has zero to do with cellular towers. It has to do with a connection to a satellite network (well, connections to multiple satellites) that orbit the Earth. The mapping of the coordinates is the only reason for the extra charge.
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Look here in our GPS section. There are several mentions of apps that download the maps ahead of time, don't require internet at the time of use. I just don't recall the name.
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Perhaps I am old school

but I like to carry topogrphic map and a good compass when I go hiking. adds some challenge to it
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but I like to carry topogrphic map and a good compass when I go hiking. adds some challenge to it
pffttt! You couldn't lost for long, a 'copter could spot that BigWheel from a mile.
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but I like to carry topogrphic map and a good compass when I go hiking. adds some challenge to it
Sometimes finding a signal under the canopy of foilage can be a challenge and you also have the challenge of battery life.
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i dont think EZ was talking anything electronic there. Nothing to get a signal with. (well *technically* the compass needs access to the Earth's magnetic field, but its hard to just "lose" that. it can be over-ridden with a stronger/closer magnetic field but thats about it)
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i dont think EZ was talking anything electronic there. Nothing to get a signal with. (well *technically* the compass needs access to the Earth's magnetic field, but its hard to just "lose" that. it can be over-ridden with a stronger/closer magnetic field but thats about it)
I guess he does have a bigger challenge, folding the map. Not a fun task in an airplane ****pit. Thank God for GPS.
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so in other words, using the Curve as a handheld GPS unit if your hiking or in an area with no service is not possible. dumb. especially for 10 bux a month!!
It's not dumb. Every choice you make is a compromise and you need to be aware of the limitations. Price is only one factor -- don't assume that paying $XX means that you'll get what you want or need.

GPS apps that require data coverage work fine for a large number of people. I use Telenav (it requires data coverage) all the time while traveling and find it incredibly useful.

For your needs you need to look into a suitable GPS app for the BB or an entirely different GPS platform with preloaded maps.

I'd also recommend reading up in the GPS forum. GPS isn't unique to the 83xx series.

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