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Rat_Boy 06-07-2008 06:23 PM

Stupid Stupid Question
 
Why do they call the button on top of the Curve the "Mute Key"???

It doesn't seem to mute anything and seems to be about the same as locking the phone via the lock application.

So what is the difference?

TroyDBrown 06-07-2008 06:32 PM

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If you tap it while the phone is ringing it mutes the ring.

If you hold it down you go into standby mode.

sh0n 06-07-2008 06:36 PM

and if youre in a call and you press it, the call is muted.

BBJunkie 06-08-2008 12:28 AM

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Good stuff. I've had my blackberry for for a while and had no idea. See, if I had read the manual, I would of known......yikes!

Rat_Boy 06-09-2008 06:13 PM

Thanks guys.

I guess I too should just read the manual instead of bothering folks. lol..

avelasqu 06-10-2008 11:07 AM

I'll have to admit, you really do learn something new everyday...

takeshi 06-10-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat_Boy (Post 960306)
It doesn't seem to mute anything and seems to be about the same as locking the phone via the lock application.

There's definitely a difference between standby and keylock. The BB will respond and light up to keypresses with the key lock engaged. It will not in standby until you take it out of standby.

hp59sdad 06-10-2008 04:44 PM

and that answered one of my many questions. Thanks. However, I tried to run a java script while trying to load a web page. It was taking to long so i stopped it and exited the browser. Now the hour glass keeps popping up and the phone operations have slowed to a crawl as I am sure there is something running in the background. Will anything short of a hard boot make it stop. Sorry, looked in the manual and I missed my last semester at MIT. Thanks.

jskolm85 06-10-2008 05:38 PM

I think at that point you are stuck into a hard reset. I had that happen and couldn't figure it out either.

"alt + right Shift + del" will reset the phone without pulling the battery.

I learned that from someone on this board. That was the best key combo I found.

avelasqu 06-10-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jskolm85 (Post 965200)
I think at that point you are stuck into a hard reset. I had that happen and couldn't figure it out either.

"alt + right Shift + del" will reset the phone without pulling the battery.

I learned that from someone on this board. That was the best key combo I found.

Are you sure this is the same as a 'battery pull'?

jskolm85 06-10-2008 05:49 PM

It shuts down the BB and restarts it. So I believe it's the same as a battery pull.

avelasqu 06-10-2008 05:50 PM

I just did it on my 8700c and it seemed to boot up a little faster than a battery pull.

jskolm85 06-10-2008 05:52 PM

might be a good first step then to try. They pull the battery if that didn't do the trick. But it has always been all I need when it says to reboot or when I am having issues after installing or uninstalling something.

oakie 06-10-2008 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rat_Boy (Post 963133)
Thanks guys.

I guess I too should just read the manual instead of bothering folks. lol..

and to think they even bothered to make a credit card sized "quick tips" booklet for people like us, ya know? ;-)

oakie 06-10-2008 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jskolm85 (Post 965223)
It shuts down the BB and restarts it. So I believe it's the same as a battery pull.

actually, no.

there are three different "reboots" for the blackberry.

1. hold the end call button. normal power down cycle. no reset occurs, phone reboots into previous configuration when powered back on.
2. alt + rt caps + del. soft reset. resets top level applications.
3. battery pull with power on, reinsert after 30 seconds. hard reset. resets all applications, including core applets.

to secure the Java OS, access to the core applets is restricted while the device is in use. when you change certain settings, the core applets themselves havent been changed "on the fly", thus requiring the applets to be shut down before the new settings can be applied... this is where the hard reset/battery pull comes into play. it enhances the stability of the OS.

likening it to MS Windows in the same order as above...
1 = putting the computer into sleep mode
2 = installing new software and is usually usable immediately after installation
3 = installing drivers and having to reboot to utilize the new drivers

it's a crappy analogy, but the best i can do putting it to something more familiar.

jskolm85 06-10-2008 08:04 PM

Wirelessly posted

Thanks for the clarificati! And the analogy is actually pretty good. Thanks


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