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Hello,

I know the 8330 isn't a 'World Phone' per se, but I was wondering -- will the 8330 roam Internationally on like networks (specifically Pelephone in Israel)?

If so, does Blackberry BIS data/BES work as well as it does here in the US? I currently have an 8830 (which is a World Phone) but am getting it replaced with a Curve due to many issues.

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Wirelessly posted (8320 Curve)

I believe that IQ will only work in the USA. But I am not positive
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Wirelessly posted (my new touch button BB)

8330 does not roam internatinally

If they use cdma where you are going and same frequecies it might work
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Hello,

I know the 8330 isn't a 'World Phone' per se, but I was wondering -- will the 8330 roam Internationally on like networks (specifically Pelephone in Israel)?

If so, does Blackberry BIS data/BES work as well as it does here in the US? I currently have an 8830 (which is a World Phone) but am getting it replaced with a Curve due to many issues.

Thanks for any/all replies.
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The whole point of the 8830 is to be able to roam Internationally. However, you will need to contact Verizon to get International Service, and get a SIM card so you can connect to overseas GSM networks.

Sorry ezrunner, but you're completely wrong on this. The 8330 works on both CDMA and GSM networks, if you get the service and the SIM card. You shouldn't be posting with such authority when you don't actually know the facts.

Actually, you shouldn't take anyone's post - including mine - as gospel - you should be contacting your provider! As for BES/BIS connectivity, again you need to check with your provider (Verizon) to make sure they have DATA coverage where you need it. If there is data coverage, you'll get your email.
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The whole point of the 8830 is to be able to roam Internationally. However, you will need to contact Verizon to get International Service, and get a SIM card so you can connect to overseas GSM networks.

Sorry ezrunner, but you're completely wrong on this. The 8330 works on both CDMA and GSM networks, if you get the service and the SIM card. You shouldn't be posting with such authority when you don't actually know the facts.

Actually, you shouldn't take anyone's post - including mine - as gospel - you should be contacting your provider!
wow, this really is very very false
the 8330 has NO gsm capabilities. it doesnt even have a SIM slot. the 8830 is designed for this purpose. now i know why you said the last line...

and you do not need a contract from vzw to get this international feature, they now unlock the device if you are in good standing or if you purchased the phone for full retail. call them up and you need to be provisioned for it, but that is all. If you do not unlock your device you can use Vodafone networks worldwide to roam internationally on the 8830, NOT the 8330.

For further proof:
BlackBerry - BlackBerry Curve 8330 smartphone

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Sorry ezrunner, but you're completely wrong on this. The 8330 works on both CDMA and GSM networks, if you get the service and the SIM card. You shouldn't be posting with such authority when you don't actually know the facts.
Wow, Jerry... I think you're about to get the flaming of a lifetime and you're about to feel very very stupid for making this statement.
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Sorry ezrunner, but you're completely wrong on this. The 8330 works on both CDMA and GSM networks, if you get the service and the SIM card. You shouldn't be posting with such authority when you don't actually know the facts.
sorry JerryD, but you're completely wrong on this. the 8330 Curve is NOT a world phone on either Verizon or Sprint. they are equipped with only a 900/1900MHz CDMA radios. no GSM. only the 8830 from both carriers have the worldphone GSM capability.

this is according to the RIM website.
sprint specs: BlackBerry - BlackBerry Curve 8330 smartphone

verizon specs: BlackBerry - BlackBerry Curve 8330 smartphone


i'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you mistyped.
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but to answer the OP's question... look up Pelephone's website and see if they run a compatible CDMA network.

realize that even if they do, you will have to purchase a service contract with them as CDMA phones dont normally allow for prepaid SIM cards to activate and use overseas... hence the beauty of the 8830.


edit: i just looked them up at Pelephone and they do run a compatible CDMA/EVDO network. you will have to call them on a local phone when you arrive to activate your berry by its ESN and discuss your service options since a "prepaid SIM card" is out of the question.
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Mffhhh (excuse me while I pull my FOOT out of my BIG FEAKIN MOUTH!!)

My eyse are still groggy - I read and was thinking 8830. My mistake!

My sincere applologies to ezrunner and Jonathan Slivko!
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Happens to us all JerryD

I have done it many times mis read because I haven't had my morning coffee
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but to answer the OP's question... look up Pelephone's website and see if they run a compatible CDMA network.

realize that even if they do, you will have to purchase a service contract with them as CDMA phones dont normally allow for prepaid SIM cards to activate and use overseas... hence the beauty of the 8830.


edit: i just looked them up at Pelephone and they do run a compatible CDMA/EVDO network. you will have to call them on a local phone when you arrive to activate your berry by its ESN and discuss your service options since a "prepaid SIM card" is out of the question.
it is entirely possible they will be unable to activate your device, as generally CDMA devices are locked to one provider, and one provider only.
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Thanks guys .

I was actually hoping to just roam on them (i.e. no need to set up a new account, etc.) with my VZW #.

So - if I'm reading this correctly - I should be able to use data/voice without issue on the Curve?

Does the International Data Plan ($64.99/$69.99 MRC) cover EVDO/1X data?

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but to answer the OP's question... look up Pelephone's website and see if they run a compatible CDMA network.

realize that even if they do, you will have to purchase a service contract with them as CDMA phones dont normally allow for prepaid SIM cards to activate and use overseas... hence the beauty of the 8830.


edit: i just looked them up at Pelephone and they do run a compatible CDMA/EVDO network. you will have to call them on a local phone when you arrive to activate your berry by its ESN and discuss your service options since a "prepaid SIM card" is out of the question.
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Also, I think some people may have been getting a little confused .

I *currently* have an 8830 World Phone which is being returned to VZW due to multiple issues (FRU to New) with the Curve.

Just a small clarification.
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Also, I think some people may have been getting a little confused .

I *currently* have an 8830 World Phone which is being returned to VZW due to multiple issues (FRU to New) with the Curve.

Just a small clarification.
I think this post just confused me even more.
You're posting in the Curve forum... and you have 8330 listed in your profile.
But... now you say you have an 8830 World Phone?

Which device have you been referring to in this thread? The 8330 Curve, or the 8830 World Edition?

(The 8830 is NOT a Curve... in case that needs clarification.)
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I think this post just confused me even more.
You're posting in the Curve forum... and you have 8330 listed in your profile.
But... now you say you have an 8830 World Phone?

Which device have you been referring to in this thread? The 8330 Curve, or the 8830 World Edition?

(The 8830 is NOT a Curve... in case that needs clarification.)
I currently have an 8830 now -- with a Curve on order as a replacement.
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Thanks guys .

I was actually hoping to just roam on them (i.e. no need to set up a new account, etc.) with my VZW #.

So - if I'm reading this correctly - I should be able to use data/voice without issue on the Curve?

Does the International Data Plan ($64.99/$69.99 MRC) cover EVDO/1X data?
SHOULD, since the network technologies listed are the same. but of course SHOULD and CAN are two different things. your only bet at this point is to contact Pelephone and find out for sure. all i can tell you is on the surface, they have the same networks.


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I think this post just confused me even more.
You're posting in the Curve forum... and you have 8330 listed in your profile.
But... now you say you have an 8830 World Phone?

Which device have you been referring to in this thread? The 8330 Curve, or the 8830 World Edition?

(The 8830 is NOT a Curve... in case that needs clarification.)
he has an 8830, but he has problems with it and is going to trade it in for an 8330. after he trades it in, he's planning a trip to israel, thus why he's asking about the 8330's capabilities over there, and not about the 8830.
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