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Old 07-08-2008, 08:53 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I pay for EDGE but I have wifi signal at my girlfriends house from her neighbor But I can't get a t-mobile bars for my phone to work. I'm new here so please tell me if I can use my phone on wifi and how? Thanks
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Old 07-08-2008, 09:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Being around for 5 months is not quite "new" at this point.

So are you saying your can't get a TMo signal at your girlfriend's house?

If you need help with WiFi, here are some FAQs, as well as many many threads in this forum in our WiFi section... see the yellow highlighted sticky notes at the top of our WiFi section.

And, for the records, in case you don't know, stealing WiFi from a neighbor is not cool.
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And, for the records, in case you don't know, stealing WiFi from a neighbor is not cool.
And to add on to the above, it's also considered a felony.
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No her neighbor told me I could use his wifi
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No her neighbor told me I could use his wifi
With no bad intentions I hope. That is why when ever I set up a home network for someone I always enable WEP. You'll be surprised when you search for available networks somewhere you'll always find a network open to the public.
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I know it is not the point of your post, but you only answered the WiFi legality part of the question, but that does not make it legal or ok to give away the WiFi signal outside of one's home. Of course I have not read his contract with his ISP, but 99.99% of them will forbade such... having permission from the homeowner doesn't matter. But it is good enough for you to have your conscience clear, you are doing nothing wrong as long as you have permission!

So... I forgot to post the link to our WiFi FAQs... Main Page - BlackBerryFAQ

Good luck. Ask back if you have a specific question, please.
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No her neighbor told me I could use his wifi
Doesn't matter what the neighbor said, it's still a violation of her ISP's TOS. Saying that on the witness stand won't mean nothing to a judge. It's still a felony. Trust me on this, I've been dealing with security for 20+ years and wireless security and laws are one of my specialties.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't breach of contract be a civil matter?
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Depending on the ISP. Different ISP's TOS
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Doesn't matter, it's been covered. Let's get back on topic.
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And to add on to the above, it's also considered a felony.
In some jursidictions, it's also against the law to give legal advice without a law license, but I doubt you need to worry.

As for the accuracy of your legal advice, I doubt it's true everywhere that this forum reaches and even where it is illegal I doubt it is often enforced absent aggravating circumstances. I do know Steve Jobs practically advocated piggybacking when he was touting the original iPhone and its ability to seamlessly flip between the Edge service and nearby, faster wi-fi signals. I hope he doesn't get arrested somewhere for aiding and abetting a felony.

I realize there have been some prosecutions related to piggybacking and I realize there are some fanatics who get very upset about anything that is even remotely questionable from a moral standpoint, but a little common sense usually wins out in the end. In the meantime, I am not going to worry too much about my moral or legal position -- or my contract terms with T-Mobile -- when I surf the Web by my pool using my unsecured wi-fi. And if it fades out I may tap my next door neighbor's unsecured wi-fi or look over the wall and see if he's using mine. Of course that would be invasion of privacy.

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So this kid just wants to know if he can make a phone call on the wifi, and now were having law debates. I love this forums. Its good reading at work haha.

But to answer your question, I don't think u can. Now tmobile does have a program where u can use your cell phone as an internet phone when you are close enough to your wireless router. But I do believe there is some sort of little box much like a router that allows you to do that. Otherwise you could just piggyback wherever and not use any of your minutes ever. Don't quote me on the way it works, I just know its possible and probably involves an extra monthly fee.
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All is answered in the FAQs where the OP was first directed.

@harddude, thank you for keeping it off-topic
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Wirelessly posted

I guess next time ill check the link haha.
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