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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 126
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Kansas
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.231
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 10:53 AM
downloading now! this couldn't have come at a better time, as I'm getting ready to go on vacation tonight and I could really use a video cam lol. can't wait to try it out!
8100 Pearl
8320 Curve
8900 Curve
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 62
Join Date: Jan 2006
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-mobile
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07-17-2008, 11:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PCgirl
I wish it were that simple!  There is no right click to exit or disable.
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Uh, yes there is.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,461
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Mexico
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.55
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 11:22 AM
Something else I've noticed with two different versions of 4.5 now is reboots when watching videos on http://m.youtube.com.
Previously as soon as I tried to watch them with a beta version of 4.5 it would reboot every single time. Now I just had a reboot with this version of 4.5 after stopping a video then trying to start it back up. It wouldn't start so I closed out the media player and the handset rebooted.
Dave
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 34
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: TO
Model: 8320
Carrier: Rogers
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07-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sgtcasey
Some things I've noticed so far from this version:
1. My free memory last night after the install was 24MB. This morning it was 19MB. I ran the memory cleanup and it was still 19MB. I did a battery pull and now I'm up to 25MB.
2. The Preloaded Pictures folder is empty. I wanted to get rid of the default blue wallpaper but there was nothing on the device to change it to. A previous beta version of 4.5 had the usual Blackberry theme pictures and such. Nothing here. I may try reinstalling tonight.
3. I use UMA at home, so my 8320 says T-Mobile - TheHouse when I'm at home. I leave Wi-Fi on more or less all the time and when I got to work this morning my device was on the EDGE network with the Wi-Fi icon grayed out, but it said T-Mobile - HotSpot at the top. I brought up the menu and then went back to the main screen and that cleared up.
4. I have two t-zones icons after the install. I checked real quick to see if I had duplicate service books, but I didn't. I just hid one of them (I should hide both since I never use it).
Dave
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how do you run the memory cleanup?
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,358
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Philly
Model: 9700
OS: 5.0.330
PIN: ned down...
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 11:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ash146
how do you run the memory cleanup?
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Go to John Clarks Tip for BB Optimization. There is a great step by step tutorial on how to free up memory. See the link below.
http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...ee-memory.html
Last edited by Helmdawg : 07-17-2008 at 11:59 AM.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,461
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Mexico
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.55
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 11:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ash146
how do you run the memory cleanup?
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Go to Options, select Security Options, then select Memory Cleaning. Enable it and check out all the different options. If you press the Menu key after enabling it you should also see a Clean Now option.
I'm still messing with mine but I haven't really noticed this doing anything to free up memory on my device.
Dave
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 37,798
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 4.7sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Cingular/AT&T
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07-17-2008, 11:57 AM
It won't.
Memory cleaning only makes your deleted items "securely" deleted... as in higher wiped standards. It won't free any additional.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 70
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Colorado
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 11:58 AM
sgtcasey - ever notice a reboot while on a phone conversation? I've had a reboot while watching a video, but I also get them while talking on the phone.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,461
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Mexico
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.55
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07-17-2008, 11:59 AM
Ah okay, that makes sense.
I just found the option to add the icon to the main menu that when you select it runs the Clean Now process.
Options > Security Options > Memory Cleaning > Show Icon on Home Screen
The icon looks like a shredder on my default T-Mobile Zen theme.
Okay, enough messing with the phone. I'd better get *some* work done today.
Dave
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 78
Join Date: Feb 2006
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 12:25 PM
I upgraded yesterday. It took about a hour and a half for the upgrade and restore. Everything is working ok so far.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 164
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Denver, CO
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5 baby!
Carrier: T-Mo
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07-17-2008, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Helmdawg
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Before the update, I ran close to 27m free... After the update, and adding a couple new apps, I'm closer to 22m. I was just getting ready to ask whether, post-update, I needed to run JC's memory Optimization.
Is it generally advised?
Thanks (I love this place)
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 20
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Norton, MA
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 12:31 PM
after i upgraded to this last night (which is completely stable and works great) I have two Tzones icons. I saw an earlier post saying that someone had the same issue. any reason why there are two tzones icons? anyone else have this?
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New Member
Posts: 4
Join Date: Jul 2008
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
Carrier: life
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07-17-2008, 12:32 PM
When will we see latest offical INDEPENDENT(not from any operator - from RIM) 4.5
Because latest independent firmware still is 4.2.2.338
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 37,798
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 4.7sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Cingular/AT&T
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07-17-2008, 12:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanotis
Is it generally advised?
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the Memory Optimization must be run with the OS upgrade, generally, but you could do it again, if you want.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: of swine flu
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07-17-2008, 12:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by boofnut
after i upgraded to this last night (which is completely stable and works great) I have two Tzones icons. I saw an earlier post saying that someone had the same issue. any reason why there are two tzones icons? anyone else have this?
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Two TZones icons is normal for some reason.
Quote:
Originally Posted by dis100
When will we see latest offical INDEPENDENT(not from any operator - from RIM) 4.5
Because latest independent firmware still is 4.2.2.338
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It is very rare for any "independent firmware" to be released. Honestly, there is no difference in "independent firmware" than the firmwares released by the carriers. The only difference is the vendor.xml. The vendor.xml is deleted anyway, making it an "independent firmware." So, in essence, there really is no such thing as "independent firmware" as it's all the same.
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New Member
Posts: 1
Join Date: May 2008
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Tmobile
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Can't find "Memory Cleaning" option -
07-17-2008, 01:02 PM
I've looked and looked for the "Memory Cleaning" option under Options>Security Options, but can't find it. Is it because I still have OS 4.2 still installed on my Curve 8320?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 34
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: TO
Model: 8320
Carrier: Rogers
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07-17-2008, 01:07 PM
^^ yep. I noticed the nice little Documents To Go with the new O/S. I did a search and apparently there is more options available with the premium version? I take it this is a pay-for upgrade ...
The HTML email looks okay but I still find empower pro much much better.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: of swine flu
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07-17-2008, 01:09 PM
You can get more options just by upgrading the Standard Version to the new version of the Standard Version. There are options for this in Docs To Go.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,461
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Mexico
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.55
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 01:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gatortone
sgtcasey - ever notice a reboot while on a phone conversation? I've had a reboot while watching a video, but I also get them while talking on the phone.
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I have not actually. But then I don't even use up the 300 minutes I have on my T-Mobile plan each month since I hardly use my phone to actually talk to someone. It's all email, IM, and web surfing.
Dave
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 55
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.174
Carrier: Rogers Wireless
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07-17-2008, 01:27 PM
So far I am pushing one hour for my upgrade. It has been at a white screen with hourglass for almost 20 minute. The DM progress bar is actually moving. The wait is killing me!
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,461
Join Date: May 2007
Location: New Mexico
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.55
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07-17-2008, 01:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baquiran
So far I am pushing one hour for my upgrade. It has been at a white screen with hourglass for almost 20 minute. The DM progress bar is actually moving. The wait is killing me!
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Yeah, that wait seems like it takes forever but I'd just go do something else for a while then come back. Less temptation to start thinking it's locked up and do something rash.
Now if you come back after 90 minutes and it's still going... :P
Dave
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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07-17-2008, 01:30 PM
FWIW, I haven't seen a report of the infinite hourglass in a long time. The upgrade will work. The first reboot after installing an update just takes a long time. Subsequent reboots will be back down to 1-2 minutes.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 34
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: TO
Model: 8320
Carrier: Rogers
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07-17-2008, 01:31 PM
thanks JC. i'm upgrading as we speak. What are your preferences - the HTML on the new o/s or Empro?
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
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07-17-2008, 01:34 PM
RIM HTML...
Only because I don't like having 3rd party apps that I don't need. Empower and BBSmart are great apps, though.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 55
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Canada
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.174
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07-17-2008, 01:45 PM
DONE!!! Took an hour and 15 minutes. No glitches. Now time to play!
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07-17-2008, 02:35 PM
John Clark
there is only one difference between independent and Operators firmware - there some operators soft and icons in menu. I like clean firmwares.
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BBFAQ Sysop
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07-17-2008, 02:39 PM
Thanks for the update!!! 
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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07-17-2008, 02:41 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
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Originally Posted by dis100
John Clark
there is only one difference between independent and Operators firmware - there some operators soft and icons in menu. I like clean firmwares.
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Like what? It has to do with the brand (vendor code) on the device as to what is loaded to the device. You will wait quite a while for a version direct from RIM.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 37,798
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07-17-2008, 02:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dis100
John Clark
there is only one difference between independent and Operators firmware - there some operators soft and icons in menu. I like clean firmwares.
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I haven't seen any direct-from-rim versions released of this OS... and you only need to clean out the cod files you don't want, as it is.
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New Member
Posts: 3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Model: 8320
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07-17-2008, 03:11 PM
I have downloaded the newer DM and the newer software. I am loading it to my phone now, but a screen popped up asking me to select a device. It has a PIN and password section. What do I do?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Atlanta
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
Carrier: t mobile
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07-17-2008, 03:15 PM
If this has been posted please excuse me and point me in the right direction.
I am currently using the Tmobile mobile (my faves i believe) theme. I changed the background picture. I noticed that when i am on a callit reverts back to the standard blue theme, and as soon as the call is ended it goes back to the background of my choosing.
My question is, is this something that was occouring when I was running OS 4.2.2.184 (close enough), or is this something specific to this release?
Thanks in advance
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07-17-2008, 03:15 PM
Actually that was something and I already answered it. ANother question though...
I am having trouble downloading the software to the phone. I am unable to find where the software is and the next step I need to take. Any advice?
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 37,798
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07-17-2008, 03:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by biguns
My question is, is this something that was occouring when I was running OS 4.2.2.184 (close enough), or is this something specific to this release?
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It was always that way as I recall.
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BBF Moderator
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07-17-2008, 03:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkk01
I am having trouble downloading the software to the phone. I am unable to find where the software is and the next step I need to take. Any advice?
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Your software downloads to your PC where you instruct it to do so. Usually, it is defaulted to the same place you downloaded to the last time you downloaded a file such as this.
So, we can't answer that question, much like if you asked me where you parked your car (I don't know, where were you when you got out of it?).
Knowing the file name you downloaded, you could do a simple search of 8320*.* in your c:/ hard drive and locate it, I am sure.
Last edited by JSanders : 07-17-2008 at 03:22 PM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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07-17-2008, 03:24 PM
Thank you
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07-17-2008, 03:41 PM
I found out what I was doing wrong and I can now find it. Now, how do I get the application loader to load it to my phone?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 45
Join Date: Nov 2007
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07-17-2008, 03:49 PM
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 69
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alabamastan
Model: 8320
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07-17-2008, 04:16 PM
1:15 to upgrade? Dang... I was wanting to do it on my ride home.... ~40 minutes. Looks like I will need to wait till I get home?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 62
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Tucson, AZ
Model: 9630
OS: 4.7.1.40
PIN: N\A
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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07-17-2008, 04:17 PM
So, Having a fun issue. Have plenty of free RAM and everything is snappy! However, If I do a battery pull, it looses all of my settings for my theme. (BB Dimension Today Plus)....
Any Ideas?????
Edit - By Settings, I mean hidden Icons and Icon placement...
 9630
Verizon Wireless BIS. Tour 9630. v4.7.1.40
Last edited by flamerbeastie : 07-17-2008 at 04:20 PM.
Reason: more info
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New Member
Posts: 12
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-17-2008, 05:04 PM
I had 4.5.0.42 and now trying to upgrade to this and the DM doesn't advise to update. Is there something else I should do?
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