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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.348
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09-10-2008, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by bghadban
Does the phone have to be unlocked in order to upgrade the OS?
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No, it does not.
Und die Wellen weinen leise
In ihrem Herzen steckt ein Speer
Bluten sich am Ufer leer.
-Till Lindemann
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Jun 2008
Model: 8310
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
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09-10-2008, 06:05 PM
I've tried to do what was written and it won't work for some reason. I have the desktop v4.6
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.348
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09-10-2008, 06:06 PM
You delete the Vendor.xml file?
Und die Wellen weinen leise
In ihrem Herzen steckt ein Speer
Bluten sich am Ufer leer.
-Till Lindemann
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Jun 2008
Model: 8310
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09-10-2008, 06:07 PM
yes...i plugged in my phone and nothing
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Model: 9000
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09-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Quite bizarre..... You had the desktop manager CLOSED when you deleted the vendor.xml file, right?
Und die Wellen weinen leise
In ihrem Herzen steckt ein Speer
Bluten sich am Ufer leer.
-Till Lindemann
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: of swine flu
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09-10-2008, 07:02 PM
Try going to C:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader and double clicking on Loader.exe.
Does it detect your pin and see the upgrade then?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Jun 2008
Model: 8310
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09-10-2008, 07:27 PM
It was closed when i deleted it. And when i did the Loader.exe file, it just went to this game i have downloaded, which is Dope Wars. SHould i perhaps delete that game?
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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09-10-2008, 07:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinx7676
just out of curiosity, what would happen if you forgot to delete the vendor.xml file? 
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The OS just won't load.
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BBF Moderator
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09-10-2008, 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bghadban
It was closed when i deleted it. And when i did the Loader.exe file, it just went to this game i have downloaded, which is Dope Wars. SHould i perhaps delete that game?
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You're sure the vendor.xml is deleted? Double check. c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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09-10-2008, 08:10 PM
double checked and its gone
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BBF Moderator
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09-10-2008, 08:27 PM
Are there any other instances of the file on your PC anywhere? Do a search for it and include hidden files/folders.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 202
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Where you'll never find me
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.247
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09-10-2008, 09:45 PM
I don't think vendor.xml matters. I panicked when I realized I forgot to delete it, but 4.5 runs great on my curve, even with it there.
I've been a complete jerk on here before, and I'm sorry for that. I'll be making my best effort to be less irritating.
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BBF Moderator
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09-10-2008, 09:52 PM
I've explained this a bazillion times on this forum and even in this thread. The vendor.xml has no effect on what is loaded onto the device. It only allows the DM to load the OS or not.
All OS's and DM have a vendor.xml file. However, many of the unreleased versions out there have blank ones. That means that it will load even if the vendor.xml is still there. If it comes from a carrier then it will have a full vendor.xml and the OS will only load on that carrier's device unless the vendor.xml file is deleted.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
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09-10-2008, 10:20 PM
I did a search and nothing turns up under vendor. what if i uninstalled everything and started over?
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BBF Moderator
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09-10-2008, 10:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bghadban
I did a search and nothing turns up under vendor. what if i uninstalled everything and started over?
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Probably a very good idea at this point.
Start with the instructions and follow them as written and in order.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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09-10-2008, 10:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
The vendor.xml has no effect on what is loaded onto the device.
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OHHHHH that is what i was not getting. i guess the one on this was blank because i had no trouble with not deleting it.
I've been a complete jerk on here before, and I'm sorry for that. I'll be making my best effort to be less irritating.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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09-11-2008, 04:49 AM
so did the uninstall and reinstall, deleted vendor.xml, plugged in bb and opened DM and wasn't prompted for anything. Maybe it just can't be done on this phone.
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New Member
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Location: Illinois
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an easier way -
09-11-2008, 05:10 AM
Isn't there an easier way to upgrade the OS on my BB 8310? I was hoping that it could be done OTA or through BB Destop Software. This is my first BB and I looked through AT&T and the latest OS they have is the one that is already on my phone, 4.2.2.170.
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CrackBerry Addict
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09-11-2008, 08:26 AM
At&t announced the OS 4.5 update will be available on Sept 23rd. You will use Desktop Manager to update your Blackberry.
1. Make sure you have the latest Desktop Manager version
2. Download the firmware update for your model
3. Install OS update
4. Plug in Blackberry and Application Loader should come up showing you have a update available. If not follow the procedure in the 1st post on how to delete the vendor/device files.
BTW everyone is wishing for OTA updating but it's not quite there yet. OS 4.5 has a "update" built in but it's likely governed by at&t.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 646
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Dutchess County, NY
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09-11-2008, 10:04 AM
Downloaded and installed on the 8310. No problems, runs great, and I love the video camera!! 
24A3F370 (9000)
East Coast Shoutin!!!!!!
"Imagine the Possibilities", Run Silent..Run Swift
850, 950, 957, 7100, 7130, 8100, 8800, 8310, 9000
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New Member
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09-11-2008, 01:55 PM
anyone have any problems trying to get blackberry maps going? I see it's installed in my application list on my 8310 but i dont see the icon anywhere. Yes i have gmaps but i want blackberry maps also and i've selected "show all" on the home screen.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 202
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Where you'll never find me
Model: 9000
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09-11-2008, 05:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bghadban
so did the uninstall and reinstall, deleted vendor.xml, plugged in bb and opened DM and wasn't prompted for anything. Maybe it just can't be done on this phone.
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I have an idea... try it with vendor.xml like i did and tell us what happens. if doing it with it there didn't work the first time, try again 
I've been a complete jerk on here before, and I'm sorry for that. I'll be making my best effort to be less irritating.
Last edited by techluvr1234 : 09-11-2008 at 05:42 PM.
Reason: space
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New Member
Posts: 4
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Illinois
Model: 8310
OS: 4.2.2.170
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09-11-2008, 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jletendre
At&t announced the OS 4.5 update will be available on Sept 23rd. You will use Desktop Manager to update your Blackberry.
1. Make sure you have the latest Desktop Manager version
2. Download the firmware update for your model
3. Install OS update
4. Plug in Blackberry and Application Loader should come up showing you have a update available. If not follow the procedure in the 1st post on how to delete the vendor/device files.
BTW everyone is wishing for OTA updating but it's not quite there yet. OS 4.5 has a "update" built in but it's likely governed by at&t.
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When it comes out where do I find the download? Do I just use BB Desktop Software to download the4.5 version of the handheld OS?
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BBF Moderator
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09-11-2008, 11:16 PM
You can find all the download links here:
BlackBerry Operating System Downloads - BlackBerryFAQ
You just download and then install the OS to your computer. Then use Desktop Manager to install it to the BB.
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New Member
Posts: 4
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Location: Illinois
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09-12-2008, 12:07 AM
Thanks, I look forward to when it is released.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 834
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09-12-2008, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by davidej3
Thanks, I look forward to when it is released.
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You don't have to wait for AT&T to release it. The OS in this thread will work just fine. I myself am using 4.5.0.52 from TIM Italy. No need for it to be an AT&T release.
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BBF Moderator
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09-12-2008, 12:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by techluvr1234
I have an idea... try it with vendor.xml like i did and tell us what happens. if doing it with it there didn't work the first time, try again 
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I think someone needs to read more and post less...
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
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09-12-2008, 12:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by val3ntin3s
anyone have any problems trying to get blackberry maps going? I see it's installed in my application list on my 8310 but i dont see the icon anywhere. Yes i have gmaps but i want blackberry maps also and i've selected "show all" on the home screen.
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BBMaps requires a service book now and ATT doesn't push the service books for BlackBerry Maps.
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New Member
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09-12-2008, 07:11 AM
vendor id 197 ,what thats mean?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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09-12-2008, 02:18 PM
Media Manager is not working on my version of DM 4.6. Do I need to install something else?
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09-12-2008, 02:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
BBMaps requires a service book now and ATT doesn't push the service books for BlackBerry Maps.
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So what are we missing in BB Maps 4.5? I am pretty ticked that I can't upgrade, b/c I really like that app!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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09-12-2008, 04:24 PM
I only have had one gripe with my new update. The facebook application doesn't work. When I open it up and it asks for me to login, if I start to type, the cursor moves like I'm typing but nothing shows up and it won't login. Just sits there and does absolutely nothing. Very frustrating.
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09-13-2008, 01:51 AM
thanks
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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09-13-2008, 07:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Casebrius
Media Manager is not working on my version of DM 4.6. Do I need to install something else?
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Many of us are seeing this but did you know you really don't need the Roxio bloat to work through all the issues and manage your mem cards?
For example, I have been using the BB Sync for iTunes and it syncs all my playlists easily...
And on one occasion, we had to move or modify the Roxio on one of our vp customers computers after we migrated them from Lotus to Exchange. The Roxio app got caught in a loop and we lost control of XP until we moved back to a restore point!
Besides, if you allow mass media access on the BB Handheld, the mem card will mount as a drive letter and you can manage everything there.
(IMHO) 
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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09-13-2008, 07:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
BBMaps requires a service book now and ATT doesn't push the service books for BlackBerry Maps.
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JC - thks for this - somehow I could never figure out why it did not work and stopped checking the box on the updates...
I never called rim on this one issue and it was never a big priority.
AT&T probably wants you to spend $120 a year on their branded Telenav anyway... 
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09-13-2008, 10:39 AM
I just upgraded the OS on my brand new 8310. It went well, no error messages and such things, but there are a couple of things...
My Blackberry Maps icon is gone. I can find it on the applications list on the phone, but can't load it. Do I need to go back and swap out files from a fresh download? Or is this something else?
My Browser Icon is gone. Again... it's in the apps list, but I can't open it.
I don't have a data plan yet... Might they show up when the phone thinks I'll have a use for them?
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BBF Moderator
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09-13-2008, 11:25 AM
You need a data plan for the browser and for BBMaps. The new BBMaps needs a service book now.
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09-13-2008, 02:53 PM
I just upgraded and everything seemed to go well. I followed the posted instructions in this thread and it was ok. One comment that may help people: There are two installation steps, one for the DM and one for the OS. I did the DM first and let it settle in with a couple of reboots and a test link to the BB. Then I installed the OS file and rebooted. It sits resident and waits for your next link. BTW, I installed it with the BB disconnected from the PC. I reconnected it after a couple of clean reboots after both installs. Once connected I waited for the "found new hardware" stuff to finish and then launched the DM. It the took over with the OS upgrade. I left my SD card in during the upgrade and have had no probs yet. All of my settings and pics were still on it after upgrade. I am missing the Facebook icon. Should be easy enough to reinstall.
Also, did someone mention that the email is now HTML? Do I need to enable anything to get that to happen?
Hope this helps.
Craig
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09-14-2008, 10:45 AM
I can't seem to find the vendor.xml file and I know that I am looking in the right place, help!
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09-14-2008, 10:52 AM
Wirelessly posted (BB 11020)
C:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
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