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abl 07-24-2008 01:51 PM

LOW memory
 
We have 3 8310's in our company, all purchased 2-3 months ago. Free memory on one of them is approximately 17MB, but the other have 120K-3MB free at any given time. I've followed all of the instructions regarding freeing up memory, and I DID get some extra, but still not much more than 3MB.

All of these units are configured the same way. We all have 4.2 and use BIS.

The 2 of us with the least free memory probably have the largest address books and get the most memory (and have the most appointments), but it seems awfully odd that the difference is so high.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!

NickfromIL 07-24-2008 01:52 PM

do you do a battery pull regularly?

abl 07-24-2008 02:15 PM

*I* do a battery pull semi-regularly; my colleagues don't. So, the 17MB free unit NEVER has the batter pulled.

As for the database size, I went to Options-->Advanced Options-->Applications-->Menu, but there is no Database Size option (I seem to remember that from another OS version, but I don't see it here). The options are
View Properties
Edit Permissions
Delete
Modules
Edit Default Permissions
Switch Application
Close

Also, I cleared out all of my received and sent attachments in my emails last night (I had a few MB worth of files, but it didn't seem to help).

gbnemail07 07-24-2008 02:26 PM

i found database size under options>status>menu>database size

gbnemail07 07-24-2008 02:28 PM

what i dont understand is how i have see ppl with 45+MB free and i basically have bare bones and a few programs but can only seem to free up 16MB. I have a 4 gig sd card that i use for music and pictures. I have 2 downloaded themes. zero messages (text or email) and zero people on my call log. i have 162 contacts but that shouldnt really take that much space up. anybody have ne suggestions?

abl 07-24-2008 02:38 PM

Thanks, gbnemail07.

So, It looks like I have as much as 3MB in my databases (Messages are 1546K, which doesn't make too much sense, as I cleaned them out last night), but assuming the other guy in my office has 0, I should still have 14MB free.

Odd.

NickfromIL 07-24-2008 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbnemail07 (Post 1031532)
what i dont understand is how i have see ppl with 45+MB free and i basically have bare bones and a few programs but can only seem to free up 16MB. I have a 4 gig sd card that i use for music and pictures. I have 2 downloaded themes. zero messages (text or email) and zero people on my call log. i have 162 contacts but that shouldnt really take that much space up. anybody have ne suggestions?

45+ are usually people with the 8330, which has 96 onboard.

gbnemail07 07-24-2008 02:43 PM

so with an 8320 am i on par with about 14-16 free?

abl 07-24-2008 02:43 PM

Also, we all have 2GB SD cards and music and pics are stored on the cards.

Cilraaz 07-24-2008 02:56 PM

I've been wondering the same. Right now I'm at 25MB. I only have 445.9k used in databases (411.7k in the RMS Database). Now, I do have a number of programs installed (Opera Mini, Gmail app, JiveTalk, FreeRange, XM Radio Mobile, BBLight, MidpSSH, Live Search, amAzeGPS, TV Guide Mobile, SameCell Cell Capture, the Precision theme, and a few games...man, more than I'd though). Adding those up, they come up to about 4484292 bytes. Add that to what I have now and I get 29383843 bytes. That's nowhere close to the amounts other people are getting and that would be with no apps and a stripped down OS. I'm confused.


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Quote:

45+ are usually people with the 8330, which has 96 onboard.
Now I read this. lol]

Mike Munoz 07-25-2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gbnemail07 (Post 1031532)
what i dont understand is how i have see ppl with 45+MB free and i basically have bare bones and a few programs but can only seem to free up 16MB. I have a 4 gig sd card that i use for music and pictures. I have 2 downloaded themes. zero messages (text or email) and zero people on my call log. i have 162 contacts but that shouldnt really take that much space up. anybody have ne suggestions?


Media cards store media not applications - so that will not affect it. Some Curves have 96mb of memory compared to ATT's 64mb. Also make sure you are exiting out of your browser via the menu/close steps rather than just pressing the red key. Many people also delete apps that they feel they will never use in order to free up more space....


Good Luck

abl 07-25-2008 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Munoz (Post 1032411)
Media cards store media not applications - so that will not affect it. Some Curves have 96mb of memory compared to ATT's 64mb. Also make sure you are exiting out of your browser via the menu/close steps rather than just pressing the red key. Many people also delete apps that they feel they will never use in order to free up more space....


Good Luck

Thanks. As I mentioned, all 3 of us have the same apps on our phones. While the guy with 17MB free is a lighter user than the other 2 of us, it seems odd that we have 14MB less of free memory. I mentioned the SD cards, but neglected to mention that we are all set up to have pictures/music/etc. stored to the card.

The other two 8310s are set up exactly the same way. I have MidpSSH and one or two other apps (less than 100K) on mine.

Is it worth trying to upgrade to 4.5? Is it possible that could fix my problem?

Mike Munoz 07-25-2008 12:28 PM

I feel you.....perhaps the other user (that is memory rich) also is more inclined to clear their texts/emails off the handset daily. 4.5 (at least to me) is sorta a crapshoot......keep in mind it STILL is a beta version that (judging from the posts on this forum and others) still is a bit buggy.

If all three of you have the same handset and exact same apps - I would venture to say that the difference is going to be how you are and/or are not exiting from your apps (menu then close) and the amount of SMS/MMS/email messages that are on your Berry as compared to the user that is not memory starved. I have found that when mine gets below 9 or 10 mb the performance does indeed suffer.......


Good Luck!!

knottyrope 07-25-2008 12:58 PM

1 Attachment(s)
just did 4.5.0.52 os on a 8310 used the osclean and now have 22meg free.

I downloaded OS from italy used a modified version of osclean for a 8310.

updated the OS and wow it works. YMMV use at own risk

Brad4d 07-26-2008 12:11 AM

Does anyone know if this program is legit?

Mike Munoz 07-26-2008 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad4d (Post 1033741)
Does anyone know if this program is legit?

Dude - until you get to know your BB just lay low........you will kill it if you keep pressing controls that you do not understand.......leave the O/S alone until you have a better grip how the 8310 works - trust me.....I saw your other post - if that tied you up you want no part of beta apps

sgtcasey 07-26-2008 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Munoz (Post 1033769)
Dude - until you get to know your BB just lay low........you will kill it if you keep pressing controls that you do not understand.......leave the O/S alone until you have a better grip how the 8310 works - trust me.....I saw your other post - if that tied you up you want no part of beta apps

On the other hand, it's pretty difficult to brick a Blackberry (is it even possible with applications like JC_Cmder available to wipe it?) so I say experiment away. Any mistakes should be easily repairable by wiping and reloading the OS.

The best teacher is experience.

Dave

Brad4d 07-26-2008 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Munoz (Post 1033769)
Dude - until you get to know your BB just lay low........you will kill it if you keep pressing controls that you do not understand.......leave the O/S alone until you have a better grip how the 8310 works - trust me.....I saw your other post - if that tied you up you want no part of beta apps

I know my blackberry very well by now, the only thing that worried me in my previous thread was the fact that my keyboard had in fact stopped working.

Mike Munoz 07-26-2008 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgtcasey (Post 1033827)
On the other hand, it's pretty difficult to brick a Blackberry (is it even possible with applications like JC_Cmder available to wipe it?) so I say experiment away. Any mistakes should be easily repairable by wiping and reloading the OS.

The best teacher is experience.

Dave

If the best teacher was experience then we would all self medicate, perform our own medical procedures, be our own lawyers, mechanics and build our own houses. Applied knowledge is the best teacher.........I would rather have someone who actually knows what they are doing versus someone who thinks they do......

No Brainer.......

abl 07-26-2008 12:39 PM

I can now report that I have 23MB free! I upgraded to 4.5 this AM.


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