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Old 06-06-2007, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AT&T prices the 8800 at $50 more than the 8300 despite the fact that's it's been out for a few months already.

Can someone please explain the justification for this? Does Blackberry/AT&T believe that the 8800 is the flagship model? Why else would this be the case? Are there any tangible benefit to the 8800 over the 8300?

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Old 06-06-2007, 01:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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AT&T prices the 8800 at $50 more than the 8300 despite the fact that's it's been out for a few months already.

Can someone please explain the justification for this? Does Blackberry/AT&T believe that the 8800 is the flagship model? Why else would this be the case? Are there any tangible benefit to the 8800 over the 8300?

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Old 06-06-2007, 01:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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put two of them together and present them to a business executive

10 times out of 10 the 8800 will be chosen

it looks and feel more professional and is sleeker, plus governments prohibit camera use on phones, so the 8800 is still the choice for goverment employees


i have both and i like the looks of the 8800 better, but the 8300 is a better unit in everyway
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The 8800 is marketed as a business device, whereas the 8300 is more of a consumer device. AT&T believes that it's appropriate to price business oriented models higher.
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EDIT: I'm not sure AT&T is correct, BTW. I'm a partner in a lawfirm. I'd prefer the 8300.

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When I got my 8800 in Feb, it was $399 with a $100 mail in rebate! Now the Curve is $299 with a $100 mail in rebate! The 8800 is marketed as a business device, catering to people who will use all of it's functions like GPS and what not! And the Curve like the Pearl is really marketed towards the consumer, let's say more mainstream, that's we're the camera comes in. So I guess that's we're the price difference comes into play. Similar to when the Pearl came out, the 8700 was still more expensive!
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The 8800 is marketed as a business device, whereas the 8300 is more of a consumer device. AT&T believes that it's appropriate to price business oriented models higher.
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EDIT: I'm not sure AT&T is correct, BTW. I'm a partner in a lawfirm. I'd prefer the 8300.
Interesting marketing technique. Simply refer to something as 'business' and jack the price EVEN though you sell other products cheaper? That's quite a slight at the intelligence of the business community!

As to the camera issue, I'm certain it would be easy for BB or the network to disable to camera if that really was a concern which I doubt anyway.
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but the 8300 is a better unit in everyway
Please explain how you feel the 8300 is a better unit in every way...
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Interesting marketing technique. Simply refer to something as 'business' and jack the price EVEN though you sell other products cheaper? That's quite a slight at the intelligence of the business community!

As to the camera issue, I'm certain it would be easy for BB or the network to disable to camera if that really was a concern which I doubt anyway.

There not concerned at all! That why the 8800 has the GPS,
and the Curve has the camera!
Different strokes for differnt folks! To them the Curve is all about unit sales, a consumer marketed device equals more sales to the general public, so $199 after rebates works. And the 8800 is not such a consumer driven device, so I guess they feel less unit sales means charge more money for the 8800. Same thing they did with the pearl!
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Please explain how you feel the 8300 is a better unit in every way...

take away the camera on one and the gps on the other, and strictly cmoparing the functionality of the devices

the keyboard is more precise and easier to type on the 8300, the trackball is not as indented as it is on the 8800, the end call and make call keys are raised for easier use

the sides are ruberised so its easier to hold, size wise its smaller which is better in my book

granted i have the 8800 and will keep it as i can not justify paying this much money for a blackberry (got my 8800 for free)

but if i were to purchase one now, id get the 8300
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I'm glad I was able to get my 8800 on a hardware upgrade through Rogers Wireless...cost only $70
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take away the camera on one and the gps on the other, and strictly cmoparing the functionality of the devices

the keyboard is more precise and easier to type on the 8300, the trackball is not as indented as it is on the 8800, the end call and make call keys are raised for easier use

the sides are ruberised so its easier to hold, size wise its smaller which is better in my book

granted i have the 8800 and will keep it as i can not justify paying this much money for a blackberry (got my 8800 for free)

but if i were to purchase one now, id get the 8300
I agree...had the 8800 I ordered today for a whopping four hours...and it is now boxed and waiting for the FedEx truck tomorrow to begin it's trip back to AT&T.

In almost all aspects...the 8300 beats the 8800 IMO.
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that is a personal opinion, do you think that RIM really puts no thought into its pricing? They market different phones to different customers, those different customers can afford different prices. If you were to take a poll of major corps. running blackberries you will find that most use the business model - 8800, 87xx. They do not want cameras (disabled or not) and as for your opinion on which is a better device, its an opinion, i have one too and I think the 8800 is a better device for me.
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Guys, I've seen component-level invoices for RIM products. The camera hardware components cost them a whopping $4 or so to include. The GPS unit, OTOH, costs about $30 to include. Throw in margin and it's pretty easy to see why the 8800 retails for more. It costs more to make. I won't discount the fact that the demand for it may be higher than the 8300 given business purchases, but it's simple economics....the 8800 is valued higher from a pure manufacturing perspective.

These cameras are give-aways. None of them are that good...maybe good enough for "phone cams" but still crappy compared to a real digicam.
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Interesting marketing technique. Simply refer to something as 'business' and jack the price EVEN though you sell other products cheaper? That's quite a slight at the intelligence of the business community!

As to the camera issue, I'm certain it would be easy for BB or the network to disable to camera if that really was a concern which I doubt anyway.
Hmmmm. I purchased RIM stock at $36 a share and they are now around $168. Who's intelligence of business is "slight"?

Sounds like someone is just upset because the price of the 8800 did not take a nose dive when the 8300 came out so you could buy it! The demand for the 8800 is still VERY strong, as it should be. It is in great demand in the corporate sector.
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The 8300 was $5 yesterday on my corp's premier site. $29.99-$25 online order. They obviously want to get as many of these out in the field as they can.
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Hmmmm. I purchased RIM stock at $36 a share and they are now around $168. Who's intelligence of business is "slight"?

Sounds like someone is just upset because the price of the 8800 did not take a nose dive when the 8300 came out so you could buy it! The demand for the 8800 is still VERY strong, as it should be. It is in great demand in the corporate sector.
G who is this dude?? Horton, step out take a deep breath and RELAX!
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If I switched from Tmo to att, I would choice Curve over 8800 period.
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AT&T prices the 8800 at $50 more than the 8300 despite the fact that's it's been out for a few months already.

Can someone please explain the justification for this? Does Blackberry/AT&T believe that the 8800 is the flagship model? Why else would this be the case?
Who knows? Why aren't you asking at&t rather than relying on speculation here?

One isn't "better" than the other unless it suits your needs better (and whichever one is "better" will vary from person to person).
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