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Old 06-08-2007, 10:22 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is there any significant differences between the 8800 and the 8300 besides the camera, GPS, Stereo Bluetooth and full screen video? Is the phone as good, any different applications...

Anyone who's used both it would be great to hear from you.

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Old 06-08-2007, 10:55 AM   #2 (permalink)
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For features you can compare side-by-side at Blackberry.com. Most other things are a matter of personal preference and you'll get a mix of responses on items such as the keyboard, phone quality, etc.
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I've used both now. As many will tell you, the backlighting on the 8800 is pretty much non-existant. It's dark blue and does nothing to light up the keys whereas the 8300 is white. Othere then that, the keyboard on the 8300 is easier to use for most because the keys are spread a little better. The other differences, other then the camera, are cosmetic. Personally, I have never used a camera on any phone in my life but I'll sleep better at night knowing I have one for that day I stumble across a ufo or bigfoot.

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Old 06-08-2007, 05:30 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have em both, you can probably do a search on the Forum with a comarison
breaking down the two of them!
Here's the short version.
Size is the big difference here, the Curve feels great in the hands, just a pleasure to use all day. Form Factor is great ,and it's real light. Keyboard is real easy to adjust to, and build quality is much better then the 8800 series.
It also has a 2 megapixel camera on board for the ride.
Now, the 8800 is also a great device, a little bigger and heavier, and the keyboard takes some adjusting to. But the thing is a work horse! Business device all the way, as it does not house a camera. However is does have GPS, which some people prefer on a business device.
To be honest, if i was you i'd go to a company owned store and try em both out! Two totally different units, but both are great in there own way!
Hope this helps.
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I actually ordered an 8800 after having my 8300 for a couple of days, just to compare the two for a few days to see if I was missing anything with the 8300...

After a whole four hours (maybe less...), I had the 8800 back in the box...taped up to ship, and had called FedEx to come get the box the next morning. I was totally unimpressed with the 8800's creaky-hollow construction...and just the way it appeared overall. The keypad was really ok to me...although I think I prefer the 8300. The built-in GPS feature was a consideration for keeping the 8800, but I have GoogleMaps on my 8300 and a Garmin in my car...so that was not an issue.

Frankly, I will probably use the camera on my 8300 rarely if at all...but it's cool to know it's there in case I want to. The same with the media player...I may never use it, but it's neat to have if I ever do. Overall, at least for me...since I am not a corporate player who can't have a camera but needs the GPS and other 8800-specific additions...the 8300 Curve is definately the "keeper" for me. I can't think of a device I have had in the last couple of years that I have enjoyed so much...
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Old 06-09-2007, 07:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the answers! Has anyone compares sound quality and signal strength between the 8800 & 8300?

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I'm playing with a Curve right now, had my 8800 for about a month now.

The size difference is almost nonexistent for me. I will say the shape of the Curve feels better as it's contoured somewhat. But there's hardly any difference in width..maybe a few millimeteres at most. The 8800 is actually a bit thinner, but it's a rectangle so it doesn't "feel" as natural in the hand as does the Curve. Then again, I am a big bluetooth user (love my Jawbone) so both devices don't get held a bunch.

Media player...the Curve wins. The Curve was meant to appeal to the same demographics as the Pearl I think. So it's got features in the media player that are just better than on the 8800. Music lists in particular are better, but you also have a full screen video player. The 8800 pretty much limits you to 320x180 as opposed to the full 320x240 and when you convert vids to 320x180 they are a bit "squashed" looking. However, I'm willing to bet that we'll see a software update to the 8800's media player to address this....doesn't seem to be a hardware difference at all. The music player on the Curve is much more like an iPod but I don't use my phones as iPods as I have an iPod for that. I can see it being preferred by many, however.

GPS...well the 8800 wins. But that's because the Curve doesn't have one. I travel a lot, including international, and I've already used the 8800's on-board navigation system. It's true you can get mapping from the Curve but the addition of GPS gives you so much more on the 8800.

Camera...duh, the Curve wins. But that's because the 8800 doesn't have one. I'm a fairly big critic of camera phones....I just don't think even the best of them are worth much more than on-screen imaging. It's not so much the lack of megapixels as it is the cheap optics on camphones. I've taken about a dozen pictures with this and they are meh....some folks will swoon over the Curve's camera...but that's usually when compared to moving from a 1.2MP camera (or worse!). So keep that in mind for my comparison....unless the thing produced images to rival my dedicated pocket digicam (which goes everywhere with me), I'm likely to diss it.

Keyboard....preference really. I've no issues with the 8800's. Some people just like the Curve's better. No biggie for me.

Screen....8800 is slightly brighter from what I can tell. Not sure if the Curve has a weaker backlight or what.

Battery....8800 gets a full hour or more worth of talk time out of it's more powerful battery. I'm surprised they didn't ship the same battery with the Curve.

Looks....I think the 8800 looks slicker. It actually looks a tad smaller than the Curve but it's not. That's the chrome side rails against the glossy black finish....optical illusion. I think it's got better "business formal" looks than the Curve. But for casual wear, the Curve would likely win. One thing about the Curve I notice is that the screen actually looks bigger but again, that's an optical illusion. It just covers more of the available surface area as the unit is narrower than the 8800.

Sound quality....I've noticed no discernible difference between the two in phone use. The Curve does support stereo bluetooth Im told, but I don't have a set of those. Again, better music player features on the Curve. But for phone, earpiece sounds same, speaker sounds a little better on the 8800, bluetooth headset use via Jawbone and Plantronics 655 sound identical.

Signal strength....compared side by side all over Chicago and suburbs past several days with the 8800. No differences in bars and no big differences in the signal strength meter in the Status screens either. If anything, the 8800 is a bit stronger, but it's negligible.

Weight....Curve weighs less. But it's not like the 8800 is a brick either. I think the difference in weight is largely due to bigger battery on the 8800.

Software functionality and speed.....seems identical to me. The 8800 slows down when you are running GPS, so that's an issue if you multitask a bunch. But running the same apps side by side, I notice no differences.

Hope this helps!

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Old 06-09-2007, 10:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Runamuck - Great post. Some of the features like media and spell check should be pushed to the 8800 via OS 4.2.2.
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Old 06-09-2007, 10:48 AM   #9 (permalink)
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When is 4.2.2 supposedly being released?
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Size and keyboard are enough of a difference for me
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