I finally got rid of the PTT app that was on my 8300, after som many said it cant be done, this is what I did:

On your pc, go to program files, common files, research in motion, shared, loader files, 8300v4, then java, then look for the file that has the words ptt in the file, delete it. Then on your desktop softeware use your app loader and go under advanced and choose erase installed applications, then click next, I choose do not back up and re-store the apps. then next and it should erase then install all the apps that were in the desktop folder with the exception of the ptt file. Then it will re-load and bang....no PTT, unit is now a bit faster.

Im no expert....but it worked for me.

Who told you it couldn't be done?

The way I understand it, there are two files that need to be removed. One is the main PTT .cod and the other is KnJCDE.cod. I used javaloader to remove them on mine and my wifes Curves and it worked like a champ.

Would you mind posting the command prompts to put into javaloader? I don't know what I am doing wrong but I still have PTT on my device and have no use for it.

javaloader.exe -usb erase -f net_rim_bb_phone_ptt_app.cod
javaloader.exe -usb erase -f KnJCDE.cod

Input one command at a time as the device will reboot by itself after each input. This will work as long as you have the drivers for the device correctly installed.

Thanks!

Easier way is to change your platform.alx and then run DM which will delete. If you use a non-Cingular OS this is important otherwise it's always got PTT open in the task switcher.

You will find a line

<fileset pttApp="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="102">

Change the vendor ID from 102 to some other number.

Great Tip!

This worked perfectly, thanks!

Where on the .alx did you find this?

Who told you it couldn't be done?

See my post from last December (for Pearl, but same proecdure) here: http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...tml#post398874

roughly a third of the way down on the Platform.alx file. I changed the vendor code to 220 then connected my BlackBerry to the desktop manager and ran the app loader.

This is what I do.

I get a module in use error... any ideas?

Thanks.
Eric

Can you guys tell me how to use the javaloader? Sorry....I didn't follow that, but would like to remove my PTT that way...thanks.

There's a command to force deletion of "in use" modules. Add a "-f" between "erase" and the module name.

thanks somehow missed the f. worked like a charm...

eric

This worked great! I LOVE THIS BOARD!!!

Can someone tell me how to ditch it....I'm just not keeping up!

do a search for JavaLoader, then use the above cmd line. works well.

Excellent! Thank you!!!

All the info is in this thread but here it is put together:
-Go to:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8300-v4.2.2.89_P2.4.0.39

-Open the Platform alx file, then click Edit>Find and enter:
fileset pttApp="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="102"

-Change the 102 to 220 and save and close the file

-Connect your BB

-Run Desktop Manager

-Click APP Loader and go thru prompts it will remove ptt from BB

That is the step by step that worked for me.
Good Luck

I am unable to locate. Would the vendorID be different if you are using the Rogers OS? If not can someone post a snap shot of where in the .alx it is?

Thanks

I think it would be different, yes.

Try taking out some of the line, you are only using the "find" to help with the search. Try something like this:
fileset pttApp="True" Java="1.0"

i am completely unfamiliar with this, search for javaloader where? on the device?

It (for me) was easier to go in to the platform .alx and remove the code form there. Worked without a hitch (when I found it) and picked up a decent amount of memory. Instructions on how to do this are in this thread

nice i just used the javaloader function and removed my PTT function as I have zero use for this. free'ed up a good chunk of memory too.

thanks everyone!

I need help. I go to Program Files, Common Files, RIM, but no Shared Files folder.

Do I need to do a reinstall of something?

Is there any advantage or disadvantage to doing it by modifying the .alx file or using the java loader?

I have att atm and I may switch to tmobile and buy the 8300 outright(this one I'm hoping). Should I modify the alx then? If i get the service books pushed back out to my device is it going to appear again?

Anyone know how to elminate that crap music (music store stuff as well) or does that not take up space?

1.navigate to (assuming c is where you installed rim software
c:\program files\research in motion\
...err what he has his in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\shared

I don't have shared...??
ok lost now.


For the java loader ..do you type that in on the bb and if so where or that done from the desktop?

Yes.. if you have BES, enterprise service, the full data load will force a new activate.. for my company this is a 3 day process to get the new activation password..

The Javaloader approach just removes/adds the files

Sam

on bis but thanks. I'll give the java loader a try.

PERFECT! worked like a charm...HOWEVER...upon syncing it removed google talk as well...there were 2 things selected for removal...ppt and a file i didnt see before so i assumed it was dealing w/ ppt. everything else seems ok so far

where do you input this command? I'm confused(first time bber here sorry guys).

in the DOS prompt. make sure you have a copy of javaloader in the path where you will run the app.

i used the jl commander javaloader. All I found was load.exe in the C:\program files\common files\Research In Motion\AppLoader

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\4795d1155903533-jl_cmder-jl_cmder-v1.8.3-installer\JL_Cmder v1.8.3


Didn't realize this was all so technical starting to remind me of work. ;)

Thanks that helped a bunch. I tried attaching it to a shortcut and adding it after the .exe" -_____ but that didn't work. Where is the standard javaloader.exe found?

Is there anyway to get ptt back should I ever(i doubt it ) decide to activate the service? Will it come back every os update? Or is this like the final solution?

thanks. Turns out after installing rogers osx. Thanks to your edited alx (thanks I believe are due). PTT is back so you must redo the java loader again.

When I go into shared, loader files there is nothing there. Anybody know why?

If there is nothing in the shared/loader files folder that usually means that you don't have the OS installed to the PC.