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Old 08-17-2007, 07:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How can I charge a totally flat (ie new) battery?

I bought 2 new batteries on ebay for my curve.

for mains charging I get a battery empty icon that never goes away

if I use USB I get the same. but sometimes the LED flashes

I cant believe they are duff batteries. something funny going on

please help
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Old 08-17-2007, 07:52 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If the batteries are completely drained, it sometimes takes a while before that battery has enough charge for an indication of=n your phone. Leave it plugged in for an hour or so, then check the battery status
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Sounds to me like batteries are bad.

You say they are new. Maybe they are wrapped in original box, but I wonder about date of manufacture.
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Plug them in overnight and then use them until they die and do it again a couple of times. I know what they say about liion batts but I had this problem before and it worked.
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coolkarim, did those batteries eventually take a charge?
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Old 08-19-2007, 10:21 AM   #6 (permalink)
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coolkarim, did those batteries eventually take a charge?
no

I left one in overnight and the empty battery icon remained always. the device did not even boot up at all.

Im waiting for the 8300 docking station with separate battery charger to arrive. then I will try that. after that i will bin them.
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here is a trick...i know since i work with curves all the time... plug in the charger to the phone without the battery in the battery compartment..the red light turns on. then a battery sign flashes in..then try putting your battery in while the phone is charging..this will work guaranteed
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I had the same thing happen when I switched to my seidio extended battery from my pearl. I had to charge it in the pearl first then swap it to the curve. Its been fine ever since. I would try the trick posted above.
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Sounds like you received some bum or dead batteries with no charges left. I would ask the seller to replace them as they appear to be DOA. If not file a dispute with PayPal if you paid that way.
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How can I charge a totally flat (ie new) battery?

I bought 2 new batteries on ebay for my curve.

for mains charging I get a battery empty icon that never goes away

if I use USB I get the same. but sometimes the LED flashes

I cant believe they are duff batteries. something funny going on

please help
Sounds to me like those batteries are dead. LiIon batteries have a safety-mechanism built in that disables charging once the battery is totally drained.
Usually, batteries don't get drained completely, even if you leave them in until the device turns itself off. But some devices will keep on draining battery power after the safe point has been reached and the battery goes dead. There's nothing you can do to re-activate such a battery.

The safety-mechanism is in place because entirely drained LiIo batteries can explode when their charged again.
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i bet you the batteries are fine but dont have the encryption that rim devices check for. make sure the batteries are cs-2 and are real RIM batteries.
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they are not blackberry branded batteries
so Im guessing if thats true they will never work.

they were cheap
about $5 each

suspiciously cheap it seems.


thanks for all tips
will keep trying

I will try in my old 8700v
never thought of that


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i bet you the batteries are fine but dont have the encryption that rim devices check for. make sure the batteries are cs-2 and are real RIM batteries.
Hey, is that what the little padlock icon on the battery means? I noticed my CS-2 that came with my Curve has a padlock on it. The CS-2 that came with my 7105T did not have the padlock.

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Hey, is that what the little padlock icon on the battery means? I noticed my CS-2 that came with my Curve has a padlock on it. The CS-2 that came with my 7105T did not have the padlock.

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If your phone has a padlock symbol in the battery compartment label, your will need to use the right RIM battery with the padlock symol, otherwise it won't work. You will get a screen showing a battery symbol with a red circle & diagonal stripe through it (i.e. "do not" sign) and the phone will not work. I've tried using a black RIM C-S1 battery (which does not have a padlock sysmbol) in a 8700 (which uses the C-S2 battery with a padlock) and it did not work, eventhough both batteries are exactly the same size & shape.
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they are not blackberry branded batteries
so Im guessing if thats true they will never work.

they were cheap
about $5 each

suspiciously cheap it seems.


thanks for all tips
will keep trying

I will try in my old 8700v
never thought of that


Ahhh, you were holding back info on us....(kidding)

I think that's your answer. And from posts below, I expect won't work in your 8700 either.

Very cool these smart batteries...
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they are not blackberry branded batteries
so Im guessing if thats true they will never work.

they were cheap
about $5 each

suspiciously cheap it seems.


thanks for all tips
will keep trying

I will try in my old 8700v
never thought of that



I was gonna say, that brand new batteries almost always come half charged. But since you got it for $5.00/ea, I'd say "no comment"
 
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If your phone has a padlock symbol in the battery compartment label, your will need to use the right RIM battery with the padlock symol, otherwise it won't work. You will get a screen showing a battery symbol with a red circle & diagonal stripe through it (i.e. "do not" sign) and the phone will not work. I've tried using a black RIM C-S1 battery (which does not have a padlock sysmbol) in a 8700 (which uses the C-S2 battery with a padlock) and it did not work, eventhough both batteries are exactly the same size & shape.
Actually, my CS-2 that's in my 7105T also works in my Curve. I didn't try the other way, but they are both CS-2, just one has the padlock and the other does not.

Weird.

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