Damn it I waited this long for this thing to be released and yet they decided to give it a "CLASSY" gold color

Talked to my Tmob rep today and saw the promo material they gave out, it is H@H and the pic was of a black curve.

Well,

I guess I didn't realize there was two different phones in the making here.

T-Mobile : 8320 Wifi and Cam
AT&T : 8820 Wifi and GPS ( which apparently AT&T has decided not to restrict the GPS like VZW did and renegociated with RIM)

Articles are reporting release dates in early September for the 8820 on AT&T and the 3rd week of September for Tmobile's 8320.


Well, glad I found this out because I couldn't care less for the mediocre cameras anyways...

I just want to be able to do SIP with the thing, which doesn't appear to be supported yet...

We'll see what happens. There's so many different people saying different things, it's all rumor.

gold

Well regarding no SPECIFIC device the following MAY be helpful.

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Not sure I follow you here sir...

In regards to SIP?

For the ones that opted for the 8310 a quick fix for the WiFi is Spectec microSD WiFi 11b/g Card SDW-823 at the cost of 149.99.

Spectec microSD WiFi Card SDW-823

mike

I plan on getting one when T-Mobile comes out with it.....

1 > Double post.

2> its slightly longer than a standard MicroSD Card.

3>

Not really. The Blackberry 7270 is a SIP capable Blackberry out of the box which depends on BES. I bet that's what the error codes linked to above refer to. I believe phone service in the new WiFi Blackberry will ONLY work with H@H due to cannibalization of profit by the associated cellular carrier if a user were able to use a cheaper form of communications on their cell phone.

Nope - not going to happen. MAYBE someone can hack it, but definitely not "out of the box"

--Kidd

Manager at T-Mo (BOCA RATON) store explain something to me that the WI-FI is not for H@H only it could be used as data transfer also... there is a possibility that T-Mo could... raise the BB add on to $29.99 because of it... He told me thast in order to use the WI-FI you gotta have a data plan ... win - win situation for RIM and T-MO.

The only difference i see here is that if you add now the H@H for $9.99 if you decide to drop blackberry and use another UMA phone that pricing is already in your account until you decide but if you pay $29.99 (POSSIBLE BB CURVE DATA PLAN)and drop it ... if you pick up another UMA phone you will have to pay $19.99 ... $10.00 difference.


CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM THIS???

Before you start blasting someone look on the back of the phone with the pictures....that is an "evaluation" model or whatever you want to say.

All prerelease BB have that sticker. It doesnt mean that the colour isnt representative of the final version. (which it is)

WIFI does not require a data plan.

The price of the BB plan is not going up.

H@H for 9.99 is a promo price, if you sign up @ 9.99 you will keep it for the life of your contract at the very least. If you dont change your plan you may keep it indefinately.

"You need a special data plan to use wifi" is the same crap employees were spewing when the MDA was launched. It is false and anyone who maintains this is simply trying to boost their sales of data plans.

Man, what the hell?

I don't particularly care for the silver, and I definitely do NOT want the "blinged out" gold one.

Where's the black 8320 T-Mobile's supposed to be releasing?

i think the gold look pretty good.

1. Everyone is saying "it doesnt look professional what will my clients say when they see it" fyi its not professional to use your phone while meeting with a client...
2. If you dont like the stinking color go to cnn.cn and order a silver housing or buy a skin to put over it get a leather casing
3. I think it looks more tan then gold but if its anythign like the "gold" pearl 2 pics that surfaced a couple days ago then it defenitly looks good

4. There are way to many internet tough guys......

CONFIRMED in another thread. in order for surfing on the "WiFi Browser" or BIS or BES to work over WiFi on the BB 8320 you MUST have a BB APN Enabled account on the currently installed SIM card. Simple as that.

My post above was to highlight that SIP was for the 7270 BB WiFi only model.

@rambo47 & CUSTEL - whatever the heck is going on between you too - pls refrain from trying to bunk the profanity filter and exchanging such words as "A-hole". Personally from my point of view its not really warranted and I'm sure both you can act like some gentleman and no need to handle this like some backyard brawl. We can agree to disagree and if points are shot down, take it easy and substantiate your point - helps the other person to see where your coming from. No need to be angry just be understood ;)

Cool? Cool!

LOL...



I hope your name is AJ, goatspike, because BGR totally stole your pictures and put their logo on them and posted a story

He was asking if a higher priced BB plan would be required to take advantage of wifi.

As you posted above a BB plan will be required to access wifi, but that plan will not be more expensive then normal.

Guys the color of this 8320 has been somewhat bothering me so I called tmo 3 times today to speak with 3 different reps about the curve and they all pulled it right up from the system as far as the color goes they all said is greyish/dark blue(refer to the buttons?) and they all confirmed that it is not gold according to the picture shown in the system however gold will be the new color they offer for the 8100 series. Maybe if anyone else here care enough to give t-mo a ring and ask em about it like I did and confirm back here haha. At least there's still some hope that we won't be getting the pimp color that'll go with our crackberry addiction hehe.

According to Boy Genius, T-Mobz might be also providing the 8320 in Titanium as well (shwew). Hey, these photos look just like the shots from BGR. Hmm...

Customer service representatives know nothing about new phones, doing that is redundant. You are better off awaiting the final release...

shhhh let him feel smug until he opens the box in a few weeks!

Is the color really a problem, or is it that some of you can't afford it? I feel it's the latter. If you don't like the gold get a skin.

You see through it brother I think to buy a $200-300 phone I'ma have to break my piggy bank. I guess the gold wouldn't be too bad to go with my POS lexus and vette http://www.blackberryforums.com/off-...u-drive-4.html

Wow modding cell phone is such an expensive hobby I bet most people here can BARELY afford it /sarcasm off.

To answer your question. Yes that pewter metallic, champagne, tan, whatjoobeencallit color is the problem I hate it with passion especially on cars. Not gonna cry over it though just thought I would share my info with those who dislike the color and hope for a more subtle bling. I'll just wait until sept 24th and see before I make a decision between bb 8320 and at&t 8525 big deal.

Good catch ngregory00, I too noticed that BG's pictures are the same as the ones posted here. Interesting that BG put thouse up about 11:30am and this thread was started around 1:30pm on the same day...

Anywhos, I could really care less about the color, this is the phone I have waited for, almost. Ideally I'd lose the camera and get the GPS back, but I will make do with a bluetooth GPS receiver for it so I can keep my telenav / GPS navigation solution. I've got a nextel 7100i right now and have had a nextel blackberry since the 6510, time to make a change. Sprint / Nextel has gone downhill badly in the customer service area and the sprint coverage just isn't what the nextel coverage is here in this area. I also spend alot of time in larger buildings and the lower frequency that the Nextel's run at does a much better just of "punching" through solid objects. But, with Wifi, I can overcome alot of those objections.

So pffft on the color, I'm just glad that my years of patience have paid off in that at least the device was MADE.

Save it for the BB Users: What do you Drive thread in the Off-Topic.

I've cleaned up the last few posts. Lets keep this thread about the 8320.

Forgive my ignorance, but would this OS work on my current unlocked curve? This curve is my first BlackBerry and I am experiencing problems with it. It is an AT&T branded unlocked device which I downgraded to the O2 software so I can get my T-Mobile service books and use my browser (thanks for all the help on this forum). I have a lot of dropped calls now, where before with my Treo 680 I never had dropped calls. The frustrating thing is, they are happening when I have 4 or 5 bars showing. Also, the video playback is not matching up with the sound playback. But the dropped calls are very frustrating, probably 4-5 a day! I am hoping once T-Mobile USA will have the 8320, I won't have so many issues anymore, especially with the dropped calls!
I know some AT&T fans will tell me the problem is T-Mobile, not the Curve, but I never had the dropped calls before in those areas! Very frustrating!
So, when would this OS be available for us for download and would it work with an 8300? If not I will have to upgrade to the 8320, but I hate Gold and would prefer the 8310 with GPS. Or just switch to AT&T! :(

Im hardly an AT&T fan, but I dont think the problem lies with the operating system. If you know t-mobile has good service in your area then I would suspect that the 8300 you are using may have a hardware problem.

You may want to swap your SIM into a different phone or fall back to the original AT&T OS to troubleshoot further though.

Well, I did buy this unlocked 8300 off of EBay, so maybe I will have to get the 8320 and sell the 8300 when I get it. I would not know how to troubleshoot this phone.

Thanks for the quick reply!

BoyGenius shoplifted those pics on his site from this thread and engraved the shots with his "BGR" logo. The shots in this thread aren't tampered with. C'mon now, nobody's a fool. The gold color isn't that bad, but I do hope T-Mobile offers this phone in the silver color as well.

The answer is almost certainly NO due to the 8320 having a different hardware configuration than the 8300.

I also suspect a hardware problem. I have an AT&T Curve which I unlocked myself after purchasing at a local Cingular store and have only had one dropped call. Try putting the latest AT&T OS back, my guess is you will continue to have dropped calls if it's hardware related. In that case, be prepared to beg and plead for a warranty replacement. I had a RIM rep over the phone tell me that phones purchased over eBay immediately lose their warranty. :(

This is definitely a problem with the older O2 OS. I am running the same version and videos which I encoded and played with the latest AT&T OS just fine have sync problems after I downgraded to the O2 version. Thankfully, I really do not need the video function.

The guy at RIM that was helping me troubleshoot this issue said that after T-Mobile releases their new Curve then the latest OS releases should start working again. That means that you should probably be able to go back to the latest AT&T release and it work fine with T-Mobile.

--Kidd

You guys miss an important point - this thing could be pink with rhinestones (hey, could I be a rhinestone cowboy then?!!) and I would still buy it.



(doo dee doo, like a rhinestone cowboy, -DAA DAHH-, riding out on a horse in a star-spangled rodeo...)

No THAT, is just so wrong. Especially after watching that Will Farrel movie about ice skating; cannot remember the name.

Anyone with hard evidence of this 8320 working with a UMA setup on T-Mobile@Home services ??!!!

The OP also avoided the first question about how he obtained the 8320 before the release date. I smell a troll.

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The 8320 has been available in Europe for quite some time.

Did you get us any pictures? or help with any new information? No, so shut up.

You never reveal your sources. When I had beta's no one knew where I would get mine from that's just dumb...

You mean the 8310 or 8820 right? I am not aware of a carrier launching the 8320 yet.

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Uncalled for.