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So I loaded this...definately worth the upgrade. As for slowness, none that I can tell except the menu for app's, takes a extra second to come up. Otherwise, going from different apps or in them, I dont see a difference.
I have seen alot of slowness when I first loaded it when I go to the pictures or ringtones it does take a while to load I get the hour glass constantly..

But the options are well worth the wait. Also has anyone noticed their phone being louder when on a call I had to turn mine almost all the way down.
   
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Smile Despite the noted flaws.. I love it - 10-30-2007, 05:48 PM

I can now listen to voicemails sent from the PBX via email to my phone. So no more dialing in to figure out who called.. Great time saver!!


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Default Happy with the upgrade but... - 10-30-2007, 06:01 PM

Getting .wav voice mails to play makes this worth the upgrade, but has anyone else had problems with the "today" themes? My old ones don't work, and neither do the 4.2 specific ones that I have downloaded.
   
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Getting .wav voice mails to play makes this worth the upgrade, but has anyone else had problems with the "today" themes? My old ones don't work, and neither do the 4.2 specific ones that I have downloaded.
i just use the zen
   
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Default Videos? - 10-30-2007, 06:07 PM

Can videos be played? (Tinytube, etc)
   
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i just use the zen

So I was trying to load a 4.2 theme, it shows in the list but wont activate beyond the zen and icon on there now. Any reason why? I had the original plazmic theme reader loaded on there which isnt needed now I thought. So I deleted that off and still unable to activate them.

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So I was trying to load a 4.2 theme, it shows in the list but wont activate beyond the zen and icon on there now. Any reason why? I had the original plazmic theme reader loaded on there which isnt needed now I thought. So I deleted that off and still unable to activate them.

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no idea I have the same issue they may have been created for 4.2.2
   
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Default 10-30-2007, 07:07 PM

Same here... running a VZW 8703e with 4.2. Only default themes are showing up. I've Tried IBERRY by mrogers for 8700 devices running 4.2 and have had no joy as well. thanks mrogers great looking stuff. wish I could get it to run on my rig

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Same here... running a VZW 8703e with 4.2. Only default themes are showing up. I've Tried IBERRY by mrogers for 8700 devices running 4.2 and have had no joy as well. thanks mrogers great looking stuff. wish I could get it to run on my rig

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did any of you notice the 4.2.2 on the themes you were trying to use? It may be that it may not be but worth investigating.
   
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I installed the latest Desktop software. I went to Computer, C drive, RIM, then clicked the file folder Blackberry RIM but I cant fing vender.xml file to delete. I have Vista. Any help?
   
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C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\

I think its under app loader and shared
   
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Can we edit the vendor.xml file and turn on other themes?
   
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Question:

I use 2 PCs for my blackberry. If I upgrade to 4.2 on one PC can I use the DM on the other PC without installing the upgrade?

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found it and deleted. Installing now. Thanks.
   
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I use 2 PCs for my blackberry. If I upgrade to 4.2 on one PC can I use the DM on the other PC without installing the upgrade?

Help!
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yes youll be fine
Thanks. I'm editing the blackberry.alx file now to enable the themes

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Default 10-30-2007, 07:43 PM

ok I hooked up blackberry and opend desktop software but was not prompted to upgrade?

it says the desktop software is 4.2 but when i run application loader it only has 4.1 should i have deleted the old desktop manager befor installing the new?

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ok I hooked up blackberry and opend desktop software but was not prompted to upgrade?

it says the desktop software is 4.2 but when i run application loader it only has 4.1 should i have deleted the old desktop manager befor installing the new?
Was it DM 4.2 SP2 ??
   
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Default 10-30-2007, 08:37 PM

I deleted all the _vendorID instances from blackberry.alx and I still only have Dimension Icon, Dimension ZEN and Verizon themes. Anyone else get the other themes to work?
   
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found the problem. I love it! But I thought there was voice notes in the media section. Not on mine? Also I saw a post earlyer that wasnt answerd. Can we now watch video?
   
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found the problem. I love it! But I thought there was voice notes in the media section. Not on mine? Also I saw a post earlyer that wasnt answerd. Can we now watch video?
I don't have anything in the media section either for voice notes.
   
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Thumbs down Move applications back to home screen? - 10-30-2007, 11:01 PM

Now that 4.2 has been out for a day, anybody figure out how to move applications from the Applications screen back to the main screen, where they can be accessed quicker? You'd think the developers would make that user-selectable.

I'm glad that folks are finally getting some of these long-awaited system improvements, but I believe it comes with a cost, in terms of overall usability. Pardon the rant, but I just need to vent a bit here:

Despite the desired improvements that come with 4.2, it seems that RIM has taken a few steps backwards with common sense operation of the Blackberry.

Maybe I'm being too picky, but this OS upgrade doesn't seem like a whole lot of progress. Indeed, adding extra steps to the operation of the device just negates the overall functionality and user-friendliness. That's not a RIM hallmark.

I've been using RIM's products since 1999, beginning with my old trusty 850 and 950 devices, so I'm not exactly a newbie with these gizmos. If I were grading things, this upgrade would rate a C+ at the most.

I'm on the verge of reinstalling 4.1. In fairness, I'm holding off until I play with 4.2 a bit more, learn as much as I can about it, see if I can adapt to the sluggishness, and see what others post about their findings, opinions, etc.
   
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Default 10-30-2007, 11:12 PM

This does not happen on the 8703e with sprint. I installed the software and have all of my Icons I.e. Gmail,Ygo,google maps" all on my home screen. I also still have sprint theme. Just updated software so that must be a verizon issue/update.
   
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Default Re: Must be a VZW thing... - 10-30-2007, 11:16 PM

Probably. It would make sense, huh?

It just smacks of VZW's interference. Just like the rest of their cellphones.

Be thankful for Sprint's flexibility and free-spirited attitude towards their devices and their customers.
   
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Default 10-30-2007, 11:16 PM

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Now that 4.2 has been out for a day, anybody figure out how to move applications from the Applications screen back to the main screen, where they can be accessed quicker? You'd think the developers would make that user-selectable.

I'm glad that folks are finally getting some of these long-awaited system improvements, but I believe it comes with a cost, in terms of overall usability. Pardon the rant, but I just need to vent a bit here:

Despite the desired improvements that come with 4.2, it seems that RIM has taken a few steps backwards with common sense operation of the Blackberry.

Maybe I'm being too picky, but this OS upgrade doesn't seem like a whole lot of progress. Indeed, adding extra steps to the operation of the device just negates the overall functionality and user-friendliness. That's not a RIM hallmark.

I've been using RIM's products since 1999, beginning with my old trusty 850 and 950 devices, so I'm not exactly a newbie with these gizmos. If I were grading things, this upgrade would rate a C+ at the most.

I'm on the verge of reinstalling 4.1. In fairness, I'm holding off until I play with 4.2 a bit more, learn as much as I can about it, see if I can adapt to the sluggishness, and see what others post about their findings, opinions, etc.
You are dead on.

The sluggish response time, plus the scattering of applications behind folders makes this upgrade feel like a clumsy step backwards.

I'll give it a week, if my opinion of it doesn't improve I'll go back to 4.1

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Default 10-30-2007, 11:53 PM

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Now that 4.2 has been out for a day, anybody figure out how to move applications from the Applications screen back to the main screen, where they can be accessed quicker? You'd think the developers would make that user-selectable.

I'm glad that folks are finally getting some of these long-awaited system improvements, but I believe it comes with a cost, in terms of overall usability. Pardon the rant, but I just need to vent a bit here:

Despite the desired improvements that come with 4.2, it seems that RIM has taken a few steps backwards with common sense operation of the Blackberry.

Maybe I'm being too picky, but this OS upgrade doesn't seem like a whole lot of progress. Indeed, adding extra steps to the operation of the device just negates the overall functionality and user-friendliness. That's not a RIM hallmark.

I've been using RIM's products since 1999, beginning with my old trusty 850 and 950 devices, so I'm not exactly a newbie with these gizmos. If I were grading things, this upgrade would rate a C+ at the most.

I'm on the verge of reinstalling 4.1. In fairness, I'm holding off until I play with 4.2 a bit more, learn as much as I can about it, see if I can adapt to the sluggishness, and see what others post about their findings, opinions, etc.


Try Alt + Click on your wheel. You should be able to move applications so that your most used ones are easily accessible. you can also hide the ones you don't care much for. I'm using the Zen theme and my top five are on my main screen.
   
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Default Been there, done that. - 10-31-2007, 12:09 AM

Thanks, I've already tried alt - click, move icon. No bueno. (Hence my original question.)

Are you suggesting that there's a way to move icons from one screen to another, and not just within one screen? Please let us in on the secret.

I tried the Zen theme. Not my cup of tea.

Ditto for the Dimension theme.

I'm no big fan of the Verizon theme, but at least I can read the icons and labeling at a quick glance. The colors are contrasted decently (as opposed to a blue battery symbol atop a blue sky background. Great... (eyes rolling upward)

I'll bet that within the week, some clever dude (or dudette) will write some code that'll fix the stupid quirks of 4.2.
   
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Default 10-31-2007, 12:28 AM

So you're saying by using Alt+Click, you are unable to scroll using the trackwheel to any screen?

I can arrange the icons in any location by doing Alt+Click; from screen to screen. I hear Zen's not for you but I arranged the most five used icons into screen one...which in return makes these the icons listed on the main screen. Works for me...

You're right about the clouds. You can change the picture in Zen. If you have a picture you would like to use, resize it to 320 X 240. You can transfer it over through the Desktop software. Go into Media and select the picture, it'll give you an option to use as your background.

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Default 10-31-2007, 01:01 AM

Minchey,
I'll play around with the Zen theme again and try your suggestions. I may import a "blank" photo, perhaps white or another single color, and use that as a background "desktop" theme.

I appreciate your assistance. We'll all get through these trying times!
   
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Default 10-31-2007, 04:20 AM

4.2 installed and working for me, but the Verizon theme is such an eyesore and I really miss my Insight theme. Wish I had known that they simply wouldn't be there after the upgrade, big letdown for me.

Hopefully, I will be able to find a more suitable theme soon.
   
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wow yall are some picky people they bring you uptodate with the rest of the world and yall still fuss
   
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yeah im using the Demnsion Theme and thats why all of my apps are on my home screen.
   
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wow yall are some picky people they bring you uptodate with the rest of the world and yall still fuss

Thats what I was thinking but you know even if it was perfect, people will find something to complain about.
   
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Default 10-31-2007, 08:33 AM

Not a bad update so far as I can tell. GPS gave me an error when I tried to start it.... I have a feeling I need to thank Verizon for that though.

** UPDATE **

I have noticed that double-clicking the thumb wheel will no longer unlock the device. It looks like it does but then you still have to press the keypad to unlock.

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weeee upgrade done ... no problems ... now I just need to re-activate service on the device.
   
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Default Question about the internal GPS on Sprint with 4.2 - 10-31-2007, 09:05 AM

Can someone tell me how to get this going on Sprint's 8703e? I just downloaded the new OS 4.2 and not sure how this works. I have BB Maps but it keeps asking for an external GPS. I checked the setting mentioned but I only have Options -> Advanced Options -> GPS -> GPS Services = On. I dont see an 'internal' option. Can someone help out? Thanks.

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Ah, ok. I didn't see that option. I just found out when I attempted to download some updated apps that my employer started blocking the installation of 3rd party Apps. I was able to download stuff last week, so I'm kind of bummed :(

Anyway, I wiped my device, installed the blank IT policy that can be found in the FAQ, then proceeded to delete BBRY maps. I then resent my service books through the Sprint BIS site and was then able to get many of my Applications updated from older versions OTA. I got everything I wanted installed, then connected up over VPN with BBRY Desktop Manager and got the Enterprise Activation completed.

All is now well and BBRY Maps works perfectly!
   
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Default how to play a wav with 4.2? - 10-31-2007, 09:37 AM

Hello, I am having trouble playing a wav file that I receive as an email attachment. I can see it says "1 attachment" then at the bottom it says voicemail.wav but neither one of them give me the option to save the wav file or to play it.

What am I doing wrong?

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Does anyone have Voice Notes in their media file? I thought this would be one of the upgrads to 4.2
Nope. Don't have it.
   
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Can someone tell me how to get this going on Sprint's 8703e? I just downloaded the new OS 4.2 and not sure how this works. I have BB Maps but it keeps asking for an external GPS. I checked the setting mentioned but I only have Options -> Advanced Options -> GPS -> GPS Services = On. I dont see an 'internal' option. Can someone help out? Thanks.
I don't have that option either. To correct this problem, delete BB Maps from "Options > Advanced Options > Applications and download it again from mobile.blackberry.com.

Hopefully you do not have an IT Policy that blocks third party apps from being installed.
   
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