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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 80
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Atlanta, Georgia
Model: 8830
OS: 4.5.0.135
Carrier: Verizon
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11-01-2007, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by brownhead
Hey bro - I believe this is a new feature in 4.2 - I read about this somewhere. I kind of find it annoying too but don't know of an option to enable or disable it. Sorry
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I agree. Really my only complaint at this point though.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 138
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 8320
PIN: Wifi Curve
Carrier: T-Mobile™ USA
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11-02-2007, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by jastclark
this does give more options and vodafone today will work for now hopefully someone can come up with a better one... 
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for some reason, the vodafone today screen is the ONLY today screen that works.
The BB Dimension Today can't be activated on the 4.2 OS for some reason
neither can Rogers Bphone Today Screen, which works on other 8700 model blackberries!
 I actually switched back to 4.1 because I NEED the today screen!!
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Atlanta
Model: 8330
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11-02-2007, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by MegaMan X
for some reason, the vodafone today screen is the ONLY today screen that works.
The BB Dimension Today can't be activated on the 4.2 OS for some reason
neither can Rogers Bphone Today Screen, which works on other 8700 model blackberries!
 I actually switched back to 4.1 because I NEED the today screen!!
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which is really strange when I ran the bootleg 4.2 i could load all those themes up
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 702
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Columbus, OH
Model: BOLD
OS: 4.6.0.234
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11-02-2007, 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MegaMan X
for some reason, the vodafone today screen is the ONLY today screen that works.
The BB Dimension Today can't be activated on the 4.2 OS for some reason
neither can Rogers Bphone Today Screen, which works on other 8700 model blackberries!
 I actually switched back to 4.1 because I NEED the today screen!!
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So why not use the Vondafone today screen with 4.2? If it works, which it does on mine as well. The only thing not to like about it is that you cant change the main background pic of it.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 702
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OS: 4.6.0.234
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11-02-2007, 08:18 AM
To mention this again, anyone else having the missed call indicator that wont go away? I've pulled the battery, changed themes, rubbed it 3 times for luck and still wont go away :(
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 460
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Upstate NY
Model: 9630
OS: 4.7.1.61
Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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11-02-2007, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by lraed74
So why not use the Vondafone today screen with 4.2? If it works, which it does on mine as well. The only thing not to like about it is that you cant change the main background pic of it.
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In my experience over the last couple of days, the Vodafone Today theme appears to negatively affect overall phone performance (i.e., "slower than molasses in January"). For example, displaying thumbnails within the Media app takes forever. I reverted to the default Verizon theme for the time being.
Last edited by visortgw : 11-02-2007 at 10:51 AM.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 460
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Location: Upstate NY
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11-02-2007, 11:14 AM
Some more enhancements in OS v4.2.1.106 that I have stumbled upon (don't believe that these have been mentioned previously):
- Bluetooth DUN now supported (slower than USB due to Bluetooth limitations);
- Bluetooth transfer (send/receive) of media files (e.g., ringtones, pictures, etc.) now supported;
- confirm delivery, confirm read, and send read receipts now supported for BIS accounts (configurable per BIS account);
- e-mail and SMS messages can optionally be configured to separate inboxes (options of Separate, Theme Controlled, or Combined); and
- calendar/task notifications now consistently work correctly in a BES environment (previously with OS v4.1, I would periodically only receive sound/vibration with no event info on the display -- "fix" would be to delete all events from the device, and re-sync, but it was only temporary).
I am sure that there are many more! 
Last edited by visortgw : 11-02-2007 at 11:24 AM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 39
Join Date: Oct 2007
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11-02-2007, 01:01 PM
Just an FYI, you can transfer phonebooks to car kits (some). Mine did work. Thanks for your help and advice.
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New Member
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Model: 8703e
Carrier: Verizon
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SMS seperate -
11-02-2007, 01:27 PM
Under "Messages," I clicked the option for "Separate" rather than Theme Controlled. This is with the Verizon 8703e using the Verizon theme. When I save the "separate" option, it just removes my SMS messages. I don't know where they go. I want it so "Messages" shows my SMS and Inbox shows my work email. Is this possible without using ZEN?
Also is the battery icon at the top right only supposed to show 3 bars when full? It looks like there should be a 4th bar.
Thanks in advance....
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Originally Posted by visortgw
Some more enhancements in OS v4.2.1.106 that I have stumbled upon (don't believe that these have been mentioned previously):
- Bluetooth DUN now supported (slower than USB due to Bluetooth limitations);
- Bluetooth transfer (send/receive) of media files (e.g., ringtones, pictures, etc.) now supported;
- confirm delivery, confirm read, and send read receipts now supported for BIS accounts (configurable per BIS account);
- e-mail and SMS messages can optionally be configured to separate inboxes (options of Separate, Theme Controlled, or Combined); and
- calendar/task notifications now consistently work correctly in a BES environment (previously with OS v4.1, I would periodically only receive sound/vibration with no event info on the display -- "fix" would be to delete all events from the device, and re-sync, but it was only temporary).
I am sure that there are many more! 
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 460
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Upstate NY
Model: 9630
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11-02-2007, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rcz22
Under "Messages," I clicked the option for "Separate" rather than Theme Controlled. This is with the Verizon 8703e using the Verizon theme. When I save the "separate" option, it just removes my SMS messages. I don't know where they go. I want it so "Messages" shows my SMS and Inbox shows my work email. Is this possible without using ZEN?
Also is the battery icon at the top right only supposed to show 3 bars when full? It looks like there should be a 4th bar.
Thanks in advance....
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- If you are using the default Verizon theme, there will be an additional icon -- "SMS" -- in the applications folder (why they put it there???).
- It appears that there is an issue with the default Verizon theme where the battery icon on the home screen is incorrect -- at 100%, 3 of 4 bars; at 85%, 2 of 4 bars; etc. The device Status (from the Options page) shows the correct battery level as a percentage. I was on the phone with VZW and RIM last night, and they opened a trouble ticket on this.
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Mts? -
11-02-2007, 02:05 PM
Hey, Im on MTS in Canada....is this strictly for Verizon users? Can I upload this OS onto my 8703e CDMA phone?
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BBF Moderator
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OS: 4.6.1.250
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11-02-2007, 02:36 PM
Wirelessly posted (BB 8860: BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
I think the answer to that is in the first post.
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11-02-2007, 03:23 PM
Thanks John.... I dont know why I missed that...
But now....I downloaded and installed the new Desktop Software....and Im trying to download the new OS from "above link" and I need to put in a Verizon Phone number....
I know it says any it will work on Any Carrier.... but then where else can I find the 4.2 OS?
Forgive me for the ignorant questions....
and thanks for the help
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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11-02-2007, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dearyou
But now....I downloaded and installed the new Desktop Software....and Im trying to download the new OS from "above link" and I need to put in a Verizon Phone number....
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Here is the direct link. No phone number required.
http://download.vzwshop.com/vzw/blac....2.1.106.e xe
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My thoughts on 4.2 -
11-03-2007, 10:25 AM
I really like the upgrade so far. The browser seems faster and I like the media manager as its easier to load pics onto my device. The pic caller id is pretty sweet. If you can get accustomed to the new theme then you shouldn't have any problems. I lost the browser after restoring my info but after registering it came back over night. Also you can attach pics to email messages which I seemed to have a problem with before. Also I was unable to make 3 way calls even though I'm subscribed with that feature, but after the upgrade it works now which is a huge plus for me. Also I use a nokia bluetooth earpiece and so far people I talk to say it sounds better. Volume seems more consistent and louder on calls thru the speakerphone I haven't yet tested the Bluetooth Dialing for EVDO tethering but after I configure and test I will let you know my results. The voice note feature on BB messenger works as promised. The operation of the phone seems a tad slower especially switching between apps (alt cancel). Also it was kind of cumbersome on the desktop manager when adding caller id to contacts, and the roxio media manager is a little slow but has nice options for quick editing (red eye removal, cropping, etc.). It took forever to open as some of the pics I was grabbing was through the network. It crashed and I ended task and then when reopening it went to the last folder I was on which was over the network and it took a bit. I had to choose a local folder (my pics) then close and reopen for the setting to retain itself. Anyway, I'm off to bluetooth tether I'll let you know my results.
Last edited by xyotek : 11-03-2007 at 10:27 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-03-2007, 03:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lraed74
So why not use the Vondafone today screen with 4.2? If it works, which it does on mine as well. The only thing not to like about it is that you cant change the main background pic of it.
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well...because its ugly compared to the BB Dimension Today Screen, or the Bphone Today Theme.
That Vodafone theme is so ugly, and those icons are so ugly, it makes my eye bleed. No one likes ugly colors, icons, or vodafone background
Where can I get the bootleg 4.2 OS?
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11-03-2007, 10:28 PM
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11-03-2007, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by BBVina
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Thanks! Replaced the link in the first post with that one.
Welcome to the forums!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 47
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Central PA
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Today themes on 4.2 for 8703e -
11-04-2007, 10:02 AM
I too want the Dimension Today theme. I used it constantly to see emails and calendar without opening the apps.
I looked around and found that the new version of com_plazmic_theme_reader is now called com_plazmic_themereader (found in Options -> Advanced -> Applications -> Modules) version 4.2.1.106.
My thinking is that the old today themes call the old version name, which does not work on this OS version. I tried making a new today theme in Plazmic but it still will not allow it to load in the theme screen. If anyone knows how to edit them to call the new module I think they may work.
Thoughts anyone?!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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11-04-2007, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by zetachi
does anyone know if you need to re-activate on the BES server after an OS upgrade?
Thanks
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Yes, you will have re-run Enterprise Activation.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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VZW 8703e OS upgrade issues -
11-04-2007, 01:45 PM
I too just upgraded my VZW 8703e to the new OS, and here are two observations (nothing new based on other posts):
1. Moving from application to application is a bit sluggish; more so than in previous OS
2. On the Verizon Theme, Options/Status shows battery is charged to 100% but the battery meter only shows 3 out of 4 bars and never gets any higher.
I followed the upgrade instructions, except for deleting the vendor.xml file. Any ideas on why this file should be deleted before the upgrade? FWIW, the date stamp on this file after the upgrade is 10/16/07.
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Deleting the vendor.xml file -
11-04-2007, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cgroftmc
The 4.2 device update is out for Verizon (4.2.1.106). This will work on any carrier's CDMA 8703 Handheld device.
Pkg Ver: 4.2.1.174
App Ver: 4.2.1.1.06
Plt Ver: 2.3.0.20
Download here.
Instructions for installing on any 8703 from any carrier:
1. Make sure you have the latest version of Desktop Manager installed. It's 4.2 SP2 and can be downloaded from the link above or Click Here. or from the Verizon site linked above.
2. Download the above file to the PC then install it to the PC by running the file you downloaded.
3. Locate the vendor.xml file and delete it. It's located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
4. Plug in BB and Open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.
The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization."
If you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507, simply connect to DM again and run application loader again and it should load the OS to the device.
Craig
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What is the reason behind deleting the vendor.xml file? I did not delete this file before upgrading, and ended up experiencing the battery meter issue not showing 100%. FWIW, the date stamp on this file after the upgrade is 10/16/07.
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11-04-2007, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sec2cxg
What is the reason behind deleting the vendor.xml file? I did not delete this file before upgrading, and ended up experiencing the battery meter issue not showing 100%. FWIW, the date stamp on this file after the upgrade is 10/16/07.
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Deleting the vendor.xml allows users on other than Verizons network to install the OS. Such as Sprint users. Since you are on Verizon you do not need to delete the file.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-04-2007, 03:59 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8320/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
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Originally Posted by Doughdaddy
I too want the Dimension Today theme. I used it constantly to see emails and calendar without opening the apps.
I looked around and found that the new version of com_plazmic_theme_reader is now called com_plazmic_themereader (found in Options -> Advanced -> Applications -> Modules) version 4.2.1.106.
My thinking is that the old today themes call the old version name, which does not work on this OS version. I tried making a new today theme in Plazmic but it still will not allow it to load in the theme screen. If anyone knows how to edit them to call the new module I think they may work.
Thoughts anyone?!
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I don't think so because rogers bphone today theme requires the os to be 4.2 or higher on the 8700 series. The icon and zen style themes work perfect but the today one doesn't.
All 3 styles don't work when the os is 4.1
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-04-2007, 05:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lraed74
To mention this again, anyone else having the missed call indicator that wont go away? I've pulled the battery, changed themes, rubbed it 3 times for luck and still wont go away :(
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I'm also on Sprint....upgraded today....and I'm NOT seeing this.
BUT....when I missed a call, I went in and either "opened" or deleted the "missed call message" that's in the message list.
Once I did that, it went away. I had to do that before the upgrade too though.
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11-04-2007, 11:02 PM
I too miss the Dimension Today theme, and the Vodaphone is nowhere as good.
Another issue I'm having is the inability to accept or deny meeting requests, I know I could do that before I upgraded. Any ideas?
Thanks,
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-05-2007, 08:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doughdaddy
I too want the Dimension Today theme. I used it constantly to see emails and calendar without opening the apps.
I looked around and found that the new version of com_plazmic_theme_reader is now called com_plazmic_themereader (found in Options -> Advanced -> Applications -> Modules) version 4.2.1.106.
My thinking is that the old today themes call the old version name, which does not work on this OS version. I tried making a new today theme in Plazmic but it still will not allow it to load in the theme screen. If anyone knows how to edit them to call the new module I think they may work.
Thoughts anyone?!
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I wonder if you rename the module and reload your handheld if that would fix it...
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11-05-2007, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jastclark
I wonder if you rename the module and reload your handheld if that would fix it...
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I haven't tried that but if you do let me know.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-05-2007, 09:03 AM
i am trying it right now
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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11-05-2007, 09:25 AM
I copied and renamed the cod file, added it to the blackberry.alx file but it will not load. How do you add the module? Does the OS have to be readded?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-05-2007, 10:26 AM
it reloaded and appears to not make any difference
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11-05-2007, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jastclark
it reloaded and appears to not make any difference
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So it shows in your modules screen but the themes still don't work? That is a bummer.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-05-2007, 10:32 AM
waiting for enterprise activation to finish...
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-05-2007, 10:56 AM
turns out eventhough i renamed the cod and changed the alx the module still shows with the other name i am not sure where it is getting that
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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11-05-2007, 11:01 AM
Did anyone have problems with ToDoMatrix or IdeaMatrix not loading? I receive this similar error for each:
Error starting com_rex_ToDoMatrix: Symbol 'UiApplication.pushModalGlobalScreen' not found.
"War protects the people from the corruption which an everlasting peace would bring upon it."
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11-05-2007, 11:31 AM
Ok, nevermind. RexWireless tech support is relentlessly phenomenal.
"War protects the people from the corruption which an everlasting peace would bring upon it."
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bluetooth dun works 8703e -
11-05-2007, 01:22 PM
I only speedtest at 150kbp/s. Any ideas if I can speed this up I have a generic bluetooth 2.0 adapter and i thought the usb 2.0 spec was 1Mbps
Thanks
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11-05-2007, 02:45 PM
Thanks for the write up.
Alltel 8703e experience.
Upgrade from v4.1.0.377 to 4.2.1.106(verizon)
After the DM finished I was prompted with a setup wizard.
Cancelled.
Enterprise Activation began syncing.
Theme didn't work.Reverted back to default.
All seems fine so far.
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11-05-2007, 06:49 PM
Thanks a lot!
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11-05-2007, 08:49 PM
Can anyone provide more info on the location of the voice recorder / voice notes? I made sure all home page apps were viewable, looked in messenger, even checked in the settings/applications area, but nothing is showing.
Any ideas?
"War protects the people from the corruption which an everlasting peace would bring upon it."
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