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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 141
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Model: 8820
Carrier: New AT&T
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OS: 8700 4.2.1.192/4.2.1.114 Hutchison -
02-25-2008, 03:08 PM
GSM Version of 8700 c/f/g/r/v ONLY
BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.2.1.192 (English/Chinese)
Package Version: 4.2.1.192
Consisting of:
• Applications: 4.2.1.114
• Software Platform: 2.3.0.88
• File name: 8700C_PBr4.2.1_rel192_PL2.3.0.88_A4.2.1.114_Hutchi son.exe
• File size: 73.36MB
Link: https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...2BAA6EBC8B872D and select 8700g from the list
Instructions for installing:
This OS will work on any GSM/GPRS/EDGE 8700c/g/v/f/r
1. Make sure you have the latest version of Desktop Manager installed.
2. Download the above file to the PC then install it to the PC by running the file you downloaded.
3. Locate the vendor.xml file and delete it. It's located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
4. Plug in BB and Open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.
The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization."
If you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507, simply connect to DM again and run application loader again and it should load the OS to the device.
To find the previous version of this OS, click here
P.S. I used John's post as template to format this post. Thanks.
Last edited by hdawg : 02-26-2008 at 08:05 AM.
Reason: updated download link
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 164
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Model: 9530
OS: .75 still
PIN: you want to know because...
Carrier: Verizon
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02-25-2008, 04:36 PM
The OS for 8700 seems newer than the one for 8800 (4.2.1.179). hmmmm.... what's going on RIM?
Proudly admit to be a Blackberry addict, so what?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 385
Join Date: Aug 2005
Model: 9700
Carrier: T-Mobile A
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02-25-2008, 04:42 PM
Should the 8800 always have the latest and greatest OS?
Perhaps, the Network Operators are starting too roll out some final 4.2.1 releases before they get 4.5 into the labs...
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Retired BlackBerryForums.com Moderator
Posts: 20,750
Join Date: Aug 2004
Model: 9700
Carrier: T-Mobile
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02-25-2008, 04:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rafa2044
The OS for 8700 seems newer than the one for 8800 (4.2.1.179). hmmmm.... what's going on RIM?
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So what? Since we don't ever get release notes from the carriers, it is impossible to say what's changed or is new...
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 37,869
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 4.7sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Cingular/AT&T
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02-25-2008, 04:56 PM
Penpower, Stickied, and previous OS linked.
Thanks.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 164
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Model: 9530
OS: .75 still
PIN: you want to know because...
Carrier: Verizon
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02-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Wow! Easy there guys!
Proudly admit to be a Blackberry addict, so what?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 150
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TX
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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02-25-2008, 07:50 PM
Anyone who's tried this OS, is the ringer volume still low?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 410
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Chile
Model: 8310
Carrier: Claro Chile
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02-25-2008, 08:06 PM
Working fine for me. I haven't noticed any improvement yet.
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New Member
Posts: 10
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8700g
PIN: N/A
Carrier: telecom italia
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Latest firmware correct link and language -
02-26-2008, 05:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rafa2044
Wow! Easy there guys!
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Hello,
the new correct link is:
https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...2BAA6EBC8B872D
I have noticed that say Chinese as ONLY language for download. Correct???
No multilanguage???
mmmm
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 410
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Chile
Model: 8310
Carrier: Claro Chile
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02-26-2008, 06:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by puffo25
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English/Chinese
Somehow I got spanish too.
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New Member
Posts: 10
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8700g
PIN: N/A
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Language for latest firmare? -
02-26-2008, 07:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
English/Chinese
Somehow I got spanish too.
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According to the download page is ONLY Chinese!!!
Software For BlackBerry 8700g(TM)
BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.2.1.192 (Chinese)
Package Version: 4.2.1.192
Consisting of:
Applications: 4.2.1.114
Software Platform: 2.3.0.88
File name: 8700C_PBr4.2.1_rel192_PL2.3.0.88_A4.2.1.114_Hutchi son.exe
File size: 73.36MB
Can someone clarify this??????
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BlackBerry Genius
Posts: 6,645
Join Date: Aug 2006
Model: hdawg
PIN: port3101.org
Carrier: hdawg
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02-26-2008, 08:06 AM
updated link in OP
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 385
Join Date: Aug 2005
Model: 9700
Carrier: T-Mobile A
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02-26-2008, 10:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by puffo25
According to the download page is ONLY Chinese!!!
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I thought ENGLISH was always included regardless of language.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 37,869
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 4.7sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Cingular/AT&T
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02-26-2008, 10:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PDM
I thought ENGLISH was always included regardless of language.
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English is included when it says "(Chinese)".
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 150
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: TX
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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02-26-2008, 12:38 PM
Yeaup "English" is included although it only says "Chinese". I just finished installing it on my trusty 8700c...I can also confirm that the ringer volume is the same as the "Hutchison" OS I was using before this update...not as loud as 4.1xx but ok for now. Hopefully 4.5xx will fix this. 
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New Member
Posts: 11
Join Date: Oct 2007
Model: 8700v
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Orange
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02-27-2008, 11:11 AM
i can confirm that German is in the release, too.

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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 63
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Model: 9000
Carrier: of H1N1 and other virii
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02-28-2008, 06:17 PM
Will this also change me to BIS v2.3 (or will I stay on the same BIS)?
Thanks!
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BlackBerry Genius
Posts: 6,645
Join Date: Aug 2006
Model: hdawg
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02-28-2008, 07:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blexcroid
Will this also change me to BIS v2.3 (or will I stay on the same BIS)?
Thanks!
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This has nothing to do with BIS; BIS is serviced / provided by your carrier regardless of the HH OS on your device.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 63
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Model: 9000
Carrier: of H1N1 and other virii
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02-29-2008, 09:28 AM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Thanks! Sorry for the newbie question.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 63
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Houston
Model: 9000
Carrier: of H1N1 and other virii
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02-29-2008, 09:28 AM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Thanks! Sorry for the newbie question.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 279
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Indiana, Pennsylvania (USA)
Model: 9000
PIN: 249E21D6
Carrier: AT&T
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Problem? -
03-01-2008, 01:31 PM
OK, everything d/l'd okay, and it all seems to be running ok, cept every so often, for no apparent reason, the device resets itself? Anyone else have the issue? Solution? Also, feeling dumb, but, where do I go no to change sounds?
BB 9000 Bold
PIN: 249E21D6
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New Member
Posts: 4
Join Date: Feb 2008
Model: 8700
PIN: N/A
Carrier: t-mo
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03-03-2008, 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dphenry
OK, everything d/l'd okay, and it all seems to be running ok, cept every so often, for no apparent reason, the device resets itself? Anyone else have the issue? Solution? Also, feeling dumb, but, where do I go no to change sounds?
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The first issue sounds like a memory issue to me. the only time my 8700g has ever reset itself was when i had a ton of e-mails and I was running a bunch of apps and surfing.
If you mean sounds as in different ringers and tones, open up the sound profiles, go to "advanced" at the very bottom of the list, click the sound profile you wish to edit, then select "edit" from the options.
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New Member
Posts: 1
Join Date: Mar 2008
Model: 8700r
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
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03-15-2008, 03:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dphenry
OK, everything d/l'd okay, and it all seems to be running ok, cept every so often, for no apparent reason, the device resets itself? Anyone else have the issue? Solution? Also, feeling dumb, but, where do I go no to change sounds?
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Mine reboots as well with 4.2.1 installed. It appears to reboot when playing any sound file - including a ring. I had to revert back to 4.1 as I could not resolve the reboot issue.
I have no idea why it happens. All that I know is that my 8700r works flawlessly with 4.1
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 57
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tampa,FL
Model: 8330
Carrier: Alltel
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03-24-2008, 11:07 AM
Hmm. Apparently I haven't upgraded in forever.
I'm presently running 4.1.0.346
Any major changes? I'm not having any issues - should I upgrade or just keep it?
And if you recommend upgrade, do I need to go in order of upgrades, or can I just jump into this one?
Last edited by SSpiro : 03-24-2008 at 01:30 PM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 72
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indiana University Research Park
Model: 8700c
Carrier: AT&T
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03-28-2008, 10:16 PM
After I do the installation of the download, desktop manager doesn't prompt me to apply the update. I have version 4.3 of the desktop software. Is there any way to force the install, instead of waiting for desktop manager to ask about doing it? Thanks!
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BlackBerry Genius
Posts: 6,645
Join Date: Aug 2006
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03-28-2008, 10:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by schalliol
After I do the installation of the download, desktop manager doesn't prompt me to apply the update. I have version 4.3 of the desktop software. Is there any way to force the install, instead of waiting for desktop manager to ask about doing it? Thanks!
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After you do the download; you run the install, delete vendor.xml, and then you can just launch the Application Loader (loader.exe).
Did you not delete vendor.xml?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 72
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indiana University Research Park
Model: 8700c
Carrier: AT&T
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03-28-2008, 11:16 PM
I did. It didn't show up even then, but after a restart it did. I should be good now, thanks!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 24
Join Date: May 2007
Model: 8830
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Carrier: Verizon Wireless
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What Improvements? -
04-01-2008, 10:36 PM
What are the improvements in this release? Are their any? I'm currently using 4.2.1.108.
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New Member
Posts: 1
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: atlanta
Model: 8700C
PIN: N/A
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04-24-2008, 08:51 AM
I am a newbie. I just purchased a rogers 8700c off ebay. I am a tmobile user. Had a cell phone decided to try the BB. I had instant messenger on my cell. but when i put the sim in the BB I dont get anything. PLEASE HELP. I've read many postings and forums and this seems the best place to get answers.
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BlackBerry Genius
Posts: 6,645
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04-24-2008, 09:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by needalittlehelp
I am a newbie. I just purchased a rogers 8700c off ebay. I am a tmobile user. Had a cell phone decided to try the BB. I had instant messenger on my cell. but when i put the sim in the BB I dont get anything. PLEASE HELP. I've read many postings and forums and this seems the best place to get answers.
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needalittlehelp - Welcome to BBF and sorry you're having troubles. You should post your issue in your own thread describing the problem that you're having in detail and what you have already done. Do you have an appropriate plan / etc? please don't reply here but rather start your own thread.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 17
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Model: 8700
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Carrier: voda
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04-25-2008, 03:15 AM
Hey guys, I downloaded it works perfect, but now I can't read Arabic text, SMS, email, etc - what should I do so I'm rest assured?
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New Member
Posts: 4
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: México
Model: 8700g
PIN: N/A
Carrier: TELCEL
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04-25-2008, 12:27 PM
Hi!! I just recovered my device from a horrible crash :( and the OS version is a really old one, should I install the one that you are posting here? or just leave my poor device with the one the carrier has (4.1 I guess) if so I'm downloading the hutchinson file anyway but another question i have is, why do i have to erase the vendor.xml file??
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 141
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Model: 8820
Carrier: New AT&T
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04-25-2008, 12:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryB
Hey guys, I downloaded it works perfect, but now I can't read Arabic text, SMS, email, etc - what should I do so I'm rest assured?
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there is no arabic fonts support natively in this OS. So just use the latest Arabic version OS (if there is one) or install one of arabic font files to enable it. Search around for the font file thread.
Last edited by penpower : 04-25-2008 at 12:36 PM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 141
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: SF Bay Area
Model: 8820
Carrier: New AT&T
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04-25-2008, 12:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sad_shadow
Hi!! I just recovered my device from a horrible crash :( and the OS version is a really old one, should I install the one that you are posting here? or just leave my poor device with the one the carrier has (4.1 I guess) if so I'm downloading the hutchinson file anyway but another question i have is, why do i have to erase the vendor.xml file??
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Erasing vendor.xml will allow you to load other carriers' OS on your BB. OS 4.2 change dramatically in the area of UI, functionality and stability compared to 4.1. However, not everyone loves 4.2 and some of them prefer 4.1 instead, because they are so used to 4.1. So you have to try it yourself.
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New Member
Posts: 4
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: México
Model: 8700g
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04-25-2008, 12:46 PM
Ok, I just dide a wipe on my device and it shows error 507, i have the latest desktop manager (4.3.0.17) and i'm downloading the BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.2.1.192 (Chinese)
Package Version: 4.2.1.192
Consisting of:
* Applications: 4.2.1.114
* Software Platform: 2.3.0.88
* File name: 8700C_PBr4.2.1_rel192_PL2.3.0.88_A4.2.1.114_Hutchi son.exe
* File size: 73.36MB
I hope that when it finishes I installit on the pc and before installing the new one i'll erase the vendor.xml
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New Member
Posts: 12
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Model: 8800
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04-27-2008, 09:19 PM
Wow, this OS should be AVOIDED by North American 8700 users. I have an 8700g, and known a few people with an 8700r who updated to this release and have had nothing but problems. I updated to try and solve my sound issue from 4.2.1.101 to 4.2.1.114, and I'm getting Error 523 Application Error every so often and I NEVER used to. I think this 'Chinese' release should not be used with NA 8700's. My advise to those in North America - AVOID.
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New Member
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04-28-2008, 05:16 AM
hello everyone. I am newbie here. Could you please review upgrade things of the new OS from the old ones?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 190
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: UK
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.297
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04-29-2008, 09:12 AM
Newbie question:
This is for Hutchinson customers. Will it work on a 8700G from T-Mobile UK?
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New Member
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Model: 8700g
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8700g media player -
05-02-2008, 11:25 PM
is there a playback with the 4.2.1 os, media, or is this the media player 
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New Member
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Model: 8700g
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05-11-2008, 11:14 AM
yes there is a playback media but it is a download not stream, bbtv.ca & mymovy.com.
if you have a 8700g and have downloaded the 4.2.1 software you must remove the 4.1 after you down load the software, you must do a wipe handheld, removing the 4.1 from the handheld, close the desktop manager, download 4.2 and then load it to your handheld, do not pick the chinese options, unless your chinese, there are other options available, it should be the only software on the handheld, you need the deck top software 4.2.2 or higher for it to work, the Chinese version will work, removing vender xml will work but for all those other problems they will all go away & the system will run smoothly and PS, change your emulation to microsoft IE.
Last edited by slickbb : 05-11-2008 at 11:25 AM.
Reason: corrections
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