I saw the thread was closed and was wondering if anyone had info on the 8700 series. Or was that someone making it all up
We are a nextel customer (I guess Sprint now) and if new devices will be out in 3 weeks I don't want to order any current ones.

Thanks
Bill

There was information going around about the 8700, however the thread became less than informative in the later stages. The consus seemed to be it would be coming out before next year. I for one can not confirm or deny that; I am simply restating what I saw posted.

Yes was hard to tell what was factual and what was not so I am with Jason on this one maybe before the end of the year.

I read an article where Jim Balsillie states they have a bunch of devices slated for the fall. I'll try to find it again...

http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...2117_tc024.htm

In all honesty, I believe corey when it comes to certain information. He very rarely, if ever, disappoints on the truth and accuracy of information. No information about an 8700 series iDEN handheld has been even mentioned on this forum, though. However, as far as the CDMA, I would tend to think that it'd be next year for the 8700 series. I think that the other guy got his information mixed up and first reported the 8700 series CDMA device then backtracked (as corey so eloquently pointed out) and stated the 7130e would be released and not the 8700 CDMA. Nextel's next release will be the 7100i. I would say that, according to history, they will probably follow with the 8700 series sometime next year at the earliest.

very well put Jibi

In a style Corey alone is capable of...

Good summary Jibi!

to be honest, i think corey's wording is perfectly adequate for some people (the intended audience, in most cases). i honestly got a chuckle out of the time he said something about a guy and a farmer and some sheep... or something along those lines. hehe.

yes i get quite a chuckle out of him sometimes as well I have had my battles with him as well lol

Sit tight folks.

I'll post some (hopefully) new info here later this morning.

I haven't had time to read all the other posts yet so forgive me if this is not new info.

Source: Andrew Lee of TD Newcrest 14 Sep. 2005
(excerpt)

"We expect and EDGE-based BlackBerry 8700 "Electron" full keyboard smartphone using an Intel XScale processor, and CDMA 1xEV-DO-based and IDEN-based half=keyboard smartphones with SureType predictive text. RIM's product transition strategy is to have its next-generation smartphones commercially available shortly after being announced, so as to avoid stalling the channel. Last year the BB 7100g (t?) smartphone was announced on Sept. 08/04 and began shipping exclusively with T-Mobile in the US in early Oct/04. We suspect T-Mobile USA may have a similiar exclusive window with the Electron this fall, likely lasting 60 days, and note that the carrier plans to launch an EDGE service across its network by the end of Sept/05. In terms of Europe, our checks lead us to believe that Electron will launch towards the Nov/Dec/05 timeframe."

that makes it sound like instead of an 8700 series, nextel is getting the 7100

lol I dont see nextel mentioned in that thread at all

Well to add fuel to the fire, on the T-Mo web site, they only list the 7100t, 7290(at a reduced price) and the SKII. I looks as itf they are making room for something in their "garage". It may mean nothing or it could mean something, we'll see.

http://www.t-mobile.com/products/default.asp?class=pda

I am willing to make a wager with anyone who thinks that TMo will get an 8700 first. I say Cingular gets the 8700 to market first. Anyone wanna bet?

I think it's funny that people are starting to agree with me. I just state the facts and don't put up with BS. It doesn't hurt that I will argue with just about anyone either. I will beat people into the truth if they provide false information. Some people are trying to show off, some people are just uneducated, and some people are just wrong. I will right the wrong and continue in my childish ways.

Another article saying the Electron is coming to CDMA in addition to the "7100" device.

In a research note Tuesday, Paradigm Capital analyst Barry Richards said a number of online-trade publications reported the possibility of Research In Motion, known as RIM, introducing a new BlackBerry model, possibly known as the 8700, in the next week or two. The device, codenamed Electron, is expected to come to market in time for the Christmas selling season on the CDMA EV-DO and GSM EDGE platforms through Verizon Wirlesss (VRZ.XX) and Cingular Wireless ( CIW.XX) initially, Richards said.

UBS Investment Research analyst Martin Cecchetto also mentioned the Electron in a research note Tuesday. RIM is expected to launch the CDMA version of its 7100 device, an iDEN version of the 7100 for Nextel's network, an EV-DO version of its 7200 and a new device codenamed Electron that runs on EDGE, he said. "We believe these new products should help accelerate channel replenishment," Cecchetto said.

I don't remember saying anything like that... check the time of the post, I may have been drunk. Sometimes I drink then go and try to write some code or start an argument or something. Sometimes I fall over and can't get up.

cd.

***This post was a mistake***
***I misunderstood the quoted post(see post below)***
***Apologizes go out to corey@12mile***

Corey why do you say this type of stuff!!!! Be carefull you don't break your arm patting yourself on the back.

Again this is the rumors section. I have personally talked to a T-Mobil rep that said there is a new BB in the pipeline. He had no specifics that he could mention, but said look for it in Q4. I then went to the T-MO site and reported what I saw. I made no mention of the 8700 coming to T-Mo what so ever. So you tell me than, am I wrong to report the rumor of a new BB and my own observation(s) in the appropiate section of this forum? The rumors section.

This was posted on HoFo

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=726241

jason i dont see where corey said anything wrong in the post you quoted

Dude. First of all, with all the flack I take from people, I am just saying it's nice that some people actually agree with me. If you ever take the time to read what I post, you can't argue with the fact that I am right. As rude/crude as I may be... I am still right. It's not a matter of patting myself on the back, it's a matter of respecting what I say.

I never said you were wrong, I never said you couldn't post what you find... in this 'rumours' section. I am just posting my own rumor and a tongue in cheek wager. Don't be offended by what I say, just keep in mind I don't really post rumours, I post facts.

What's worse... hearing rumours, and then being disappointed when they don't happen, or hearing rumours and knowing right away if there is any truth to them. Personally I don't like to see rumours carry on when people know they aren't true. If I ever posted a rumour and someone knew otherwise, I would be dissappointed if they didn't correct me. Maybe you like the letdowns, I dunno.

And lastly, I post this stuff because it's who I am. If you don't like it, there is some ignore thing you can put me on and you will never see my posts. I'm glad you talk to TMo reps, I'm stuck talking to RIM employees. :P

cd.

hey I am glad you said there was an ignore thing on here corey I didnt know that was cool i put a few folks on it and tere post completely disappeared

Corey,
First and foremost it looked like you were responding to my post, if that was not true I am sorry for going off on you. I felt like I was being flamed. I more often than not agree with you and respect what you post. But respect is earned not just given. Do unto others...Thats my philisophy.

Peace...Fo-Schizzle

Can we all agree that a 8700 is coming out and that none of us have a commercially released version.*

*Beta testers don't count.

Well how many other carriers are on the IDEN network?

Telus... *puke*

Hey... I wasn't flaming anyone, I'm sorry if it seemed like that... I know this is rumours, but I have a pretty good source who told me a few weeks ago what the release schedule roughly is, and TMo is like third in line, maybe second if Rogers does their typical slow poke thing. I was just trying to say that if anyone wants to lose some money, and that means anyone (I have read a few times that TMo would be getting the 8700 first), let's make a wager. It was never intended to be directed at you. It was intended to firm my statement of Cingular first, Rogers second.

Can you friggin believe this??? I said I was sorry... oh my gosh, I must be growing boobs. Oh well stuff happens eh.

Anyhow... a friend of mine, who works for RIM, is carrying an 8700 with him right now and when I was chatting with him this morning he says the device is still 'flakey', But I still can't wait for mine to arrive.

cd.

From Wikipedia these are countries that operate iDEN networks.

all the countrys below have iden networks that arent nextel
Quote:
* Argentina
* Canada
* Chile
* China (selected areas)
* El Salvadore
* Israel: Mirs
* Japan
* Jordan: Xpress
* Korea
* Mexico
* Peru
* Saudi Arabia
* Singapore
* United States: Nextel

Can you confirm or not whether the pictures circulating the internet are accurate or not? Some of the pictures I have been seeing make the 8700 look like the Moto "Q".

With Cingular logo too... I assume this means that it is past alpha/beta stage and is being tested on operator level. Which probably means we'll see it within a month or so?

It does look nice, just not too impressive, to me it looks like a 7100x with a normal keyboard.

Can't wait to get one though :D

thats thing is hidious looking at least the back is anyway

I agree Dawg. I think my 7290 is much cooler looking. BTW, your football player logo appears to be the wrong skin color -- at least for the UG team. But boy can they play some mean ball. I hope they're up there and my UT team gets to play them in the Rose Bowl. USC is way overrated, IMHO.

wtf does that mean guinda white people cant play football and if you look at the mascot he is a white dawg just like my avatar

That's right that bulldog is white - I forgot. Do you have the bulldog avatar? And white boys can play football my man. The horns have a bunch. Remember Chris Simms? And Major Applewhite? Georgia just happens to be almost all black this year is all.

But please read my edit. I meant to give your team a compliment - Now if they can get past Tech and Auburn, and Tenn. Boy what a schedule!

I agree. If that's the real deal on hofo they need to go back in the studio and take some better glamour shots or hope that the market suddenly decides they want a PDA that lloks like a $19.95 French-English Franklin dictionary (could've gone with any language... I chose French because of the Canadiens here)

Nice to see the first REAL photos of this thing...but yeah those aren't exactly flattering. Where did those pictures come from (as in, who took them)? We need more...

it looks like a big version of a 7100g to me...

i'd say that be a violation of their NDA, unless they came from RIM, so you may not want to tread down those waters and get someone in trouble...

I played with the 8705 today from cingular, its a very nice device. Some specs I got on it

312 mhz
edge
mp3 and polyphonic
16 mb ram
64 flash
speakerphone
send, end and middle(customizable) convenience key

the one I saw was grey but it also comes in black which is most likely what Rogers is going to get. ETA on when it will be here, I forgot to ask. :(

its not as fat as the 7290 but not as skinny as the 7100