Just picked up my 8700v in Melbourne with OS later than HK OS but no Zen theme. Do I have to go back one version? or is the theme downloadable somewhere independantly of the OS?

Cheers

I think the Zen theme is just locked, so you need to adjust the code a bit to get it to open.

Cheers - I'll have a look

Another user with an 8700v had the same issue. You have two rather easy approaches, one of which you're unable to do at the current time.

BlackBerry.alx Edit: (not currently available)
http://www.blackberryforums.com/show...&postcount=146

JavaLoader Install:
http://www.blackberryforums.com/show...&postcount=149

Apologies if it's been covered elsewhere but I am wondering, would it be possible to run zen theme with CSL 4.1.0.284 since I need the Chinese character support.

- Open up your BlackBerry.alx file with Notepad; located in C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.1.0.284_P2.0.0.120

- Search for 'zen'

- Just above it, find something that looks like:

Remove _vendorID="123|201|170|114|171|134|169|202" and close/save the file.

- Open Desktop Manager and it should prompt you to update the Core Components (if not, open Application Loader and click on Next).

You can do these same steps for any other theme, as well. Just search for 'vendorid' and remove the tags from the XML.

It's as easy as shooting fish in a barrel guys. C'mon!!

hmm, where did i hear that quote used recently... either a tv show or a movie. or maybe my boss said it. hrmph, it bothers me when the old ticker just isn't working as much as it used to.

I have the rogers version of .284 but no zen theme in that folder. ALthough I do have "net_rim_theme_bb_dimension_zen_320x240.cod" with the following path:
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.1.0.284_P2.0.0.120\Java

Does this mean that I have to install the zen theme from the baharti software and the rogers version doesn't come with the theme preloaded?

Can I keep the roges OS and only install the ZEN theme from another OS? If so, where can I find only the zen theme alx?

Thanks.

Shane

look a few posts above yours...

http://www.blackberryforums.com/show...70&postcount=6

oh! oops! i misread that as zen.alx!

Sorry. And thanks for the clarification!

Fantastic! Worked like a charm! Thanks.

I noticed that in my blackberry.alx file there are also themes for other carriers such as T Mobile, Orange, Vodaphone, Bell Canada, O2, etc. Would removing the vendor from these files allow me to use these themes as well?

I was going to try and see, but I didn't want to cause network conflicts on my rim (although not sure why a theme would cause this). better safe than sorry.

Thanks again.

Shane

mmhmm. they are just theme files not radio stacks.

thought so.

And thanks again, jibi. Sorry for the seemingly common-sensical questions. Just trying to be overdilligent before I cause a blackberry meltdown.

I can't even get past the first step.

I don't have a "Shared" folder underneath Research in Motion. All I have are these four:

AppLoader
Modem Drivers
RimDeviceManager
USBDriver

Under the AppLoader I've looked @ the Device.xml and the Vendor.xml but... nothing referring to Zen.

Suggestions? :(

Run the exe after downloading the OS, then you will have the shared folder.

Where did you get this 410284 csl chinese from, I only see the 258 and 286?

dc/dc-- I am oddly disturbed by your chinese kitten.

That's not chinese, that's Hello Kitty, from Japan!!

I thought it was .284, but actually .286! Sorry.

Yeppers. Sanrio.

Are all of the Zen themes included in the Bharti download? I did the DL last night and got a few extra themes (Vodaphone, Orange, etc..) but nothing more than that. Did I get everything?

From what I've read I didn't.

should call this "zen theme for dummies", as in an easier solution than having to download a whole new competitor OS.

so do i just remove the part between the double quotes 123|201|170|114|171|134|169|202, or do i remove _vendorID="123|201|170|114|171|134|169|202"

i removed ''_vendorID="123|201|170|114|171|134|169|202"''

Hey guys,

I'm having the following error when running Application Loader Wizard, on a 8700g on T-Mo. This happened after I edited BlackBerry.alx to enable the Zen theme.

This is what happened:
1. I followed the instructions on jibi's page to edit BlackBerry.alx

I'm pretty sure I did it correctly, because I did the same thing on another 8700g on a different computer hours ago, and it worked just fine.

2. When I started Desk Manager after the edit, it did not prompt me to update the Core Components. So I went into Aplication Loader Wizard and clicked Next, based on jibi's instructions on the same page.

3. The following error pops up:

*Invalid Configuration*
The application "Browser" cannot be loaded, because it reuires the following applications that are not available:

net.rim.blackberry.xml

Anyone has any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks in advance!

-LW

You're BlackBerry.alx is not in the correct location or something is messed up in it. That is Desktop Manager stating it can't find the file or its corrupt.

I see.. I'm trying to avoid a re-install. Since all I did was editing the file, I'm hoping to find an easy way to fix this.

Is there a generic or baslc BlackBerry.alx file I can copy from? Could file permissions/ownership have something to do with this error? (ie. file attributes changed after edit, etc?)
Thanks.

-LW

Just reinstall the same version of OS that you had previously installed and it'll overwrite or put in blackberry.alx and your device shouldn't be affected.

Jibi -
THANK YOU! This was really helpful, and WAY too easy! I was a bit reluctant to change OS, and this gives me Zen without the hassles.

that's what i ended up doing. since i already had the right versioni of the os installed on the 8700 the whole process took seconds (after i connected the cable to the blackberry).

sweet!

Having a similar issue as the previous poster - no "Shared" folder underneath Research in Motion, just AppLoader, Modem Drivers, RimDeviceManager, USBDrivers. What 'exe' are you referring to, and where would I find it? Thanks very much.

using an 8700g (v4.1.0.284 on the handset)

what do you mean "run the exe after downloading the OS"? i can't seem to find it!?!?!?

I am using CSL 286 version with Zen theme. I used the JavaLoader method and don't have problem excep arrangin icon order.

I'm pretty good about following simple instructions, and post 6 is simple enough. I've used the blackberry.alx file provided on the original post about the upgrade. BUT, when I search for "zen" I only see entries for BB Dimension-Zen, not for anything else. And I don't have the vendor ID listed above for it. ??

same boat for me too. I dont see any shared folder. Im using an 8700g by the way. any help for the zen? i dont know what exe ur talkn bout etc....

Jibi,

Thanks for the tip and appreciate the assistance. Worked perfectly. Now to read up on hiding / moving icons in Zen.
***Note- found it . Thanks to another BBF member posting. Search is your friend


Have a good/safe 4th!

same here, i dont have the shared folder with my 8700g and i dont know what exe the other poster was refereing too.

help please!?

ok I am new to BB all together...have been on this site for a bit though...one thing I couldn't find in all my searches was the answer to this simple question:

"What is the big deal with the Zen theme?"

any help?

oh and I to run the 8700G from T-Mobile.

There's much commentary on this but it's divided over tons of threads. A quick summary: It frees your screen to view wallpapers and puts your apps in a drop-down menu. It is highly customisable in the OS .284 (Bharti/T-Mobile/Rogers) version but less so in the more recent Telstra version. I explained my disappointment with Testra Zen here.
Bottom line: you either love Zen or you think its stupid and prefer icons. I thought that it was stupid at first and now I use it 95% of the time which means, I guess, that I no longer think it's stupid.