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Default What can we do about the loose battery door? - 06-18-2006, 10:31 PM

So I've had my 8700G for about 2 months now, I put the card behind the battery door (Oh this is my 3rd one by the way), and honestly for the amount of money we pay, I want to see if there is support for a petition to rim to fix the battery door issue. RIM has to know they are loose and thus delivers a defective product. There are 100's of phones/pds devices etc that don't have faulty battery doors. If I missed a post with a petition or a way to let rim know let me know but if there is support I'll draft a petition!


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Mod please change title to "Sick of loose battery door, who supports a petition"


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Default 06-18-2006, 11:43 PM

I'm up for one too, that damn door pisses me off!


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Default 06-19-2006, 03:02 AM

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102 UP.Link/6.3.0.0.0)

Yeah, I think that it might be getting worse on mine. Maybe I am just using my BB more. I am going to take a business card and an razor blade and try and quiet my door. Then there will at least be my card in it if someone should find it.


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Default 06-19-2006, 01:10 PM

i dont know if you guys mean losse like the battery door falls off? My battery door was a little loose like it would slide up and down just the tiniest bit, but it was annoying. i just put a piece a paper towel in there to take up the space and it worked great!


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Default 06-19-2006, 03:54 PM

Take a post-it note. Fold it in half so it is stick on both sides. Tear off the bottom so it is about the same size as the battery. Stick it on the battery. Replace cover. It is now tight.
   
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Default 06-19-2006, 04:09 PM

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Take a post-it note. Fold it in half so it is stick on both sides. Tear off the bottom so it is about the same size as the battery. Stick it on the battery. Replace cover. It is now tight.
I did a similar fix on mine, and it left it on the battery when I eBay'ed the device a few days ago.
   
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Default 06-19-2006, 04:43 PM

i put a whole pack of those mini post it notes in mine awhile back.. it doesnt move at all


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Default 06-19-2006, 06:40 PM

Loose battery doors are a common problem with most PDA's.. Folded paper is an easy fix.


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Default 06-19-2006, 08:08 PM

Thanks... I didn't even notice mine moved until I read this. Now it's bugging me. I am such a sheep!


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Default 06-19-2006, 09:52 PM

The point is, $500 phones should not have such little problems as a loose battery door.


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Default 06-19-2006, 10:58 PM

Yeah ya'll missed my point that I've already tried the fixes but I'm at the point where I just think it's bad design that needs to be addressed. Trust me I've got paper in there right now or else I'd be going bonkers!


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Default 06-20-2006, 11:44 AM

I'm not sure if it has anything to do with the frequency you pull the battery door off and on but I have no problems with a loose door. It is slightly loose but I don't even notice it. In fact when I tried to remove the door it was a bit difficult.
   
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Default 06-20-2006, 12:07 PM

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Yeah ya'll missed my point that I've already tried the fixes but I'm at the point where I just think it's bad design that needs to be addressed. Trust me I've got paper in there right now or else I'd be going bonkers!
Blackberry doesn't claim rock solid hardware, they claim the best push email in the biz. In other words, You're not paying $500 for the plastic housing... It's plastic, what do you expect.


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Default 06-20-2006, 02:23 PM

Even if they don't claim to have rock solid hardware, you don't see nokia's with battery door issues... or the motorola Q. it's all in the design if people complain enough they might fix it just like the dust issue!!
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Blackberry doesn't claim rock solid hardware, they claim the best push email in the biz. In other words, You're not paying $500 for the plastic housing... It's plastic, what do you expect.


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Default 06-20-2006, 11:18 PM

Its funny that I never noticed this problem. I do have "the best skin ever" on my phone. And it seems very difficult to get the cover off. But before that I never had issue.


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Default 06-20-2006, 11:58 PM

Hey guys, new to the forum and just wanted to pass on what I used to fix this little issue, I am an employee of Cingular and used a small piece of foam found on the battery doors of a Sony Ericsson Z520a. It is a small about once inch square and works perfectly in getting the door to stay put.
   
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Default 06-21-2006, 08:52 AM

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Blackberry doesn't claim rock solid hardware, they claim the best push email in the biz. In other words, You're not paying $500 for the plastic housing... It's plastic, what do you expect.
So you're telling me if you paid $100,000 for a car and the rearview mirror was always loose and wobbled that you wouldn't want it fixed? Or if you paid $15,000 for a new TV and the wall mount was loose, you wouldn't want it fixed? Or if you paid $5,000 for a home stereo receiver and the volume knob always wobbled around and was loose, you wouldn't want it fixed? I'm sure whoever made the car wouldn't specialize in bad ass rearview mirrors, whoever made the TV wouldn't specialize in bad ass wall mounts, and whoever made the receiver wouldn't specialize in bad ass volume knobs...but, they better sure as hell work correctly when spending so much money!

Same thing goes for a $500 phone. Who specializes in bad ass battery doors? No one, of course, but you'd hope that a stupid little problem like that would not occur. I love BlackBerry and my 8700g and I won't replace it, I am just trying to make a point.


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Default 06-21-2006, 09:18 AM

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... a small piece of foam found on the battery doors of a Sony Ericsson Z520a. It is a small about once inch square and works perfectly in getting the door to stay put.
That sounds like the kind of fix fix RIM might do if pushed to do something, anyway. Seems standard on many devices (with battery) doors. I wouldn't want more plastic on the door and risk it getting 'sticky'.

The "wobbly" keyboards (side to side movement of the whole keyboard) is a greater travesty of design IMHO. But not enough to worry me about it.

Somehow, to know my [insert product name here] is 'typical' or 'as good as it gets' is of some comfort when in other respects that product does what it's supposed to, doesn't fail, and the issue is fairly cosmetic.
   
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Default 06-21-2006, 09:49 AM

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So you're telling me if you paid $100,000 for a car and the rearview mirror was always loose and wobbled that you wouldn't want it fixed? Or if you paid $15,000 for a new TV and the wall mount was loose, you wouldn't want it fixed? Or if you paid $5,000 for a home stereo receiver and the volume knob always wobbled around and was loose, you wouldn't want it fixed? I'm sure whoever made the car wouldn't specialize in bad ass rearview mirrors, whoever made the TV wouldn't specialize in bad ass wall mounts, and whoever made the receiver wouldn't specialize in bad ass volume knobs...but, they better sure as hell work correctly when spending so much money!

Same thing goes for a $500 phone. Who specializes in bad ass battery doors? No one, of course, but you'd hope that a stupid little problem like that would not occur. I love BlackBerry and my 8700g and I won't replace it, I am just trying to make a point.
You make good points but I don't think your comparison is sound because although $500 is expensive for a phone it is not expensive for one with "elaborate" PIM functions. I mean if you compare it to a Treo, which is about $600 for the 650 GSM unlocked and unsubsidized you're getting a deal with the Blackberry right. Since the 650 seems unstable and you pay more for it. Although, I'm not sure where you are getting the $500 number from as it seems too expensive for a subsidized unit and too cheap for an unsubsidized unit.
   
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Default 06-21-2006, 10:07 AM

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So you're telling me if you paid $100,000 for a car and the rearview mirror was always loose and wobbled that you wouldn't want it fixed? Or if you paid $15,000 for a new TV and the wall mount was loose, you wouldn't want it fixed? Or if you paid $5,000 for a home stereo receiver and the volume knob always wobbled around and was loose, you wouldn't want it fixed? I'm sure whoever made the car wouldn't specialize in bad ass rearview mirrors, whoever made the TV wouldn't specialize in bad ass wall mounts, and whoever made the receiver wouldn't specialize in bad ass volume knobs...but, they better sure as hell work correctly when spending so much money!

Same thing goes for a $500 phone. Who specializes in bad ass battery doors? No one, of course, but you'd hope that a stupid little problem like that would not occur. I love BlackBerry and my 8700g and I won't replace it, I am just trying to make a point.
Well I paid over $1,500 for 'pro' a lens for my camera. I expected it to be "perfect". Actually, it's not. Just less imperfect than cheaper lenses. NO lens is perfect...
   
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You make good points but I don't think your comparison is sound because although $500 is expensive for a phone it is not expensive for one with "elaborate" PIM functions. I mean if you compare it to a Treo, which is about $600 for the 650 GSM unlocked and unsubsidized you're getting a deal with the Blackberry right. Since the 650 seems unstable and you pay more for it. Although, I'm not sure where you are getting the $500 number from as it seems too expensive for a subsidized unit and too cheap for an unsubsidized unit.
Exactly, I said $500 becuase it's in between. Prices will differ of course depending on where you purchase the phone from. It's $479.99 for the 8700g without a contract at our T-Mobile stores. Either way, it's a problem that BlackBerry could easily look into and fix, at least in my opinion. Just like with any top of the line product, you want top quality. My old ass 6230 has nothing loose on it, so why can't we do it with the 8700 series?


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Default 06-22-2006, 11:48 AM

Rim needs the money to pay NTP remember... Got to keep the stock prices going.. LOL


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