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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 21
Join Date: May 2006
Location: monroe la
Model: 8700c
Carrier: cingular
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Why PIN -
07-19-2006, 03:16 PM
New user trying to understand why someone would PIN someone rather than just e-mailing them????
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Retired
Posts: 17,705
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere In The Swamps of Jersey
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6
PIN: 3.1415926535
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-19-2006, 03:24 PM
Don't want the message stored in an e-mail system.
E-Mail system is down (power failure).
Disaster Recovery tool.
Lots of reasons....
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 9,827
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Tulip City - MI
Model: 8330
OS: 4.iforgot
PIN: ch me
Carrier: Sprint - 2 Curves
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07-19-2006, 03:27 PM
As a Blackberry admin, I use PIN to PIN when I am troubleshooting issues.
If I am not able to send a PIN message to a user, or if they are not able to send a PIN message, then I know there is an issue with the data service on the device. Very much like the issue I'm troubleshooting right now....the user tries to send me a PIN message, it fails with the status of 'Service Blocked'.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Victoria, TX
Model: 8700g
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07-19-2006, 04:16 PM
Isn't PIN usage like a way to instant message someone? I just installed it, but have not used the BB messenger...
Or am I way off?
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Retired
Posts: 17,705
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere In The Swamps of Jersey
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6
PIN: 3.1415926535
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-19-2006, 04:18 PM
Yes, but only to another BlackBerry.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 71
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Indiana University Research Park
Model: 8700c
Carrier: AT&T
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07-19-2006, 04:36 PM
It's another mode of communication.
On and after 9/11, I was able to connect with folks in NYC that were otherwise unreachable through pin-to-pin.
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BBF Veteran
Posts: 3,192
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lost in Translation
Model: 8700c
Carrier: Cingular
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07-19-2006, 04:51 PM
Because paperclip just doesnt sound right.
He's Back....and better than ever!
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,366
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: North Texas
Model: 8700
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07-19-2006, 07:35 PM
Why Not, the answer is the same as Why Text someone, except it's BB to BB and only uses Data. .
Another $0.02
Rcbjr
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 18
Join Date: Apr 2005
Model: 8300
Carrier: at&t
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07-19-2006, 08:19 PM
We use PIN to communicate between our techs on the road. One nice thing is that it is usually VERY fast and secondly, the sender can confirm that the receiver has received the messege. Since it does not use email servers, there is once less thing to go wrong.
Cingular 8700c
PIN 23D6993D
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 151
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Red Stick
Model: 8830
Carrier: Sprint
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07-20-2006, 12:01 AM
Disaster Recovery Tool indeed. After Katrina, PIN messaging was about the only communication method that worked. Phones sketchy, email a gamble, 800 MHz radios a mess, thank goodness for PIN messaging 
Sprint 7250
I no longer need to punish, deceive or compromise myself. Unless, of course, I want to stay employed.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 201
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Atlanta
Model: 8800
PIN: 240F8BEC
Carrier: TMO
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07-20-2006, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by coreyg510
Because paperclip just doesnt sound right.
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FUNNY 
PIN: 23D3A3F9
Yahoo IM: truly4us
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 226
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Lake Charles, LA and College Station, TX
Model: 9000
PIN: 24A051E1
Carrier: ATT
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RE - Pin -
07-20-2006, 01:23 AM
What is the advantage of using PIN over SMS and during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and Rita when networks were flood with traffic, I know that SMS and PIN messages still got through, but is there an advantage of using PIN over SMS. Are they not the same, with the exception that the PIN message does not cost you .10 cents.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 68
Join Date: Nov 2005
Model: 8330
Carrier: VZW
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07-20-2006, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by atuarre
What is the advantage of using PIN over SMS and during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and Rita when networks were flood with traffic, I know that SMS and PIN messages still got through, but is there an advantage of using PIN over SMS. Are they not the same, with the exception that the PIN message does not cost you .10 cents.
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but PIN messages go through RIM servers and SMS messages go through your carrier's servers. That said, if your carrier is experiencing high traffic which is causing service issues, PIN messages likely won't be affected because the traffic on the RIM servers will be much less.
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New Member
Posts: 12
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Tampa
Model: 8100
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07-20-2006, 11:15 AM
This is what I've been told by our T-Mobile rep and why I recommend it to our top execs: 1) It is very secure and leaves no paper trail - it does not go through an Exchange server. In other words, if you do not want anyone at work to ever know about it you should send it via PIN. I'm sure there's a way one could hack in and see your PIN messages if they really wanted to, but it's better than SMS and email in these instances. 2) If we have a network outage at work, which we've had two in as many weeks, then no email. Everyone gets on their cells, traffic spikes, and you're lucky if you can make a call. PIN goes through without any hiccups.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 643
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: LAX, NYC, CHI, STL, BOS, PHL
Model: 8820
PIN: Another name for the flagstick, term more commonly used by amateurs
Carrier: TMO, ATT, Nextel, Sprint
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07-20-2006, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by atuarre
What is the advantage of using PIN over SMS and during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina and Rita when networks were flood with traffic, I know that SMS and PIN messages still got through, but is there an advantage of using PIN over SMS. Are they not the same, with the exception that the PIN message does not cost you .10 cents.
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PIN enables you to send more characters per message over SMS. But keep in mind that PIN is strictly BB to BB. SMS messages can be sent to other mobile phones that are capable of receiving SMS.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 21
Join Date: May 2006
Location: monroe la
Model: 8700c
Carrier: cingular
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07-20-2006, 04:17 PM
So if i dont want my BB address known (spam) and i want to communicate with another BB user PIN is the way to go.
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Retired
Posts: 17,705
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Somewhere In The Swamps of Jersey
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6
PIN: 3.1415926535
Carrier: T-Mobile
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07-20-2006, 04:19 PM
Well, I guess that's a reason. But you would need to know their PINs. As opposed to their e-mail addresses....
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 21
Join Date: May 2006
Location: monroe la
Model: 8700c
Carrier: cingular
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07-20-2006, 04:26 PM
There are 8 of us in our office with BB just planning on getting theirs. In case of another Hurricane this season.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 33
Join Date: Jun 2006
Model: 8700
Carrier: Cingular
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07-20-2006, 09:48 PM
Can someone help out a new BB user?
is there some program I need to Down load to use pin to pin?
I do not see anything on my 8700 to allow this.
Thanks
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 969
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Model: 8700c
PIN: tucked behind a bunker
Carrier: AT&T
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07-20-2006, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by phantomdaz
Can someone help out a new BB user?
is there some program I need to Down load to use pin to pin?
I do not see anything on my 8700 to allow this.
Thanks
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You can download BB Messenger. Every BB has a unique PIN. BB messenger uses PIN to PIN communication. It's Free.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 151
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Red Stick
Model: 8830
Carrier: Sprint
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07-20-2006, 10:44 PM
Sending a PIN message is just like sending an email. Click a contact's name in the address book and select "PIN Contact Name."
This only works if that address book entry has a PIN number associated with it, of course, so ask a nice person for their PIN and try it out 
Sprint 7250
I no longer need to punish, deceive or compromise myself. Unless, of course, I want to stay employed.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 279
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Magnum1.com
Model: 9000
PIN: Want my Debit Card?
Carrier: AT&T, Cingular, AT&T..?
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07-20-2006, 10:55 PM
That's my main choice with the wifey.....Why? Because it doesn't have to go to the inbox and the content is usually simple stuff I don't need to keep around.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 33
Join Date: Jun 2006
Model: 8700
Carrier: Cingular
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07-21-2006, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by moosehead
You can download BB Messenger. Every BB has a unique PIN. BB messenger uses PIN to PIN communication. It's Free.
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Thanks for yhour help. I do have a couple of questions
1 When I downloaded the BB messenger, it said that Cingular does not support this program.
2 I thought that using pin to pin did not require going thru the carrier
Can anyone help me clear this up?
Thanks
Daz
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 969
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charlotte, NC
Model: 8700c
PIN: tucked behind a bunker
Carrier: AT&T
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07-21-2006, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by phantomdaz
Thanks for yhour help. I do have a couple of questions
1 When I downloaded the BB messenger, it said that Cingular does not support this program.
2 I thought that using pin to pin did not require going thru the carrier
Can anyone help me clear this up?
Thanks
Daz
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1)What model BB do u have? I'm with cingular as well. I installed it from the Cingular homepage on my BB browser(globe with cingular logo). At the bottom is a section called Blackberry Smart....log in and there should be a BB Messenger link.
Not sure why you got that message.....u do have a data plan setup correct?
2)Correct from what I know(and have been told) PIN to PIN messages is sent through as RIM data so does not count as a txt message(cingular txt message). Last year during Katrina and during 9/11 when the phone lines(cingular) were down PIN messages still worked.
So with that said...you probably need Cingular's service to download it but after that you should be good to go....
I'll keep checking this thread today....try it again from the Blackberry Smart link and let me know how it goes.
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