BlackBerryForums.com : Your Number One BlackBerry Community  
   

»Sponsored Links




Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  (#41 (permalink)) Old
acnst Offline
BBF Moderator
 
acnst's Avatar
 
Posts: 1,180
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Germany
Model: 8310
PIN: not configured
Carrier: T-Mobile
Default 10-19-2006, 03:34 PM

All screws on the 8700 series are T6. I am not aware of that any of the screws is T5.
   
Sponsored Links
Please Login or Register to Remove these Advertisements!

  (#42 (permalink)) Old
armandov99 Offline
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Posts: 99
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Model: 8330
Carrier: Sprint
Default 10-24-2006, 11:56 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_187
the keyboards will not line up in all cases. rim uses different over lays (white keyboard taped on pcb) for different housings.

now in most cases you may get a lil stiff keypad but that depends. if you replace a c housing with a g you will get a lil bit of a stiff keypad, in most cases very usable and very rarley its too stiff.

i kno this because i worked at rim and remember if someone puts on a wrong overlay on a certain keypad shape the keys will become stiff.

now if you can get an overlay then you are truly set because it is the only difference. however i replaced 8700c with 8707v and no problems at all.

just so you guys know if you get stiff keypads this is the reason.
What did it take to get the 8707v housing on an 8700c?

I have T-Mo 8700g (which seems to be identical to an 8700c) and want to purchase the 8707v housing from eBay so I want to know if it's been done before.

There used to be 8700 vodafone housings on eBay a few days ago but they are gone, so I'm looking into this one.
   
  (#43 (permalink)) Old
paulbblc Offline
BBF Moderator. Nah mean?
 
paulbblc's Avatar
 
Posts: 3,426
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Model: Curve
OS: 4.5.0.52
PIN: 8675309
Carrier: AT&T
Default 10-24-2006, 11:59 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by acnst
All screws on the 8700 series are T6. I am not aware of that any of the screws is T5.
There are no T5 screws, only T6.

Here are step by step instructions with images for removing 8700 housing:
8700 Disassembly - BlackBerryFAQ
   
  (#44 (permalink)) Old
armandov99 Offline
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Posts: 99
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Model: 8330
Carrier: Sprint
Default 10-24-2006, 12:06 PM

Nevermind, I JUST now saw the pics from dropscience. The keyboard for the 8700r looks slightly different than that for my 8700g. My NUM and CAP keys are way more pointy (more of a trapezoid) than the ones in those pics.

Does anyone know where to get 8700c or 8700r keyboards? Seems if I could get that, I'd be able to switch my 8700g to a 8700r keyboard with a 8707v housing.

Wow, complicated...
   
  (#45 (permalink)) Old
wangta01 Offline
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
wangta01's Avatar
 
Posts: 382
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Model: 8310
PIN: 24276F06
Carrier: T-Mobile
Default 10-25-2006, 09:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by armandov99
Nevermind, I JUST now saw the pics from dropscience. The keyboard for the 8700r looks slightly different than that for my 8700g. My NUM and CAP keys are way more pointy (more of a trapezoid) than the ones in those pics.

Does anyone know where to get 8700c or 8700r keyboards? Seems if I could get that, I'd be able to switch my 8700g to a 8700r keyboard with a 8707v housing.

Wow, complicated...
Not that complicated - just need the damn keyboards! There are only two types - the 8700c and 8700g versions. if you had both, you could use any faceplate available.
   
  (#46 (permalink)) Old
mike_187 Offline
CrackBerry Addict
 
mike_187's Avatar
 
Posts: 752
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: US and A
Model: 8100
Carrier: AT&T
Default 10-26-2006, 01:25 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by armandov99
What did it take to get the 8707v housing on an 8700c?

I have T-Mo 8700g (which seems to be identical to an 8700c) and want to purchase the 8707v housing from eBay so I want to know if it's been done before.

There used to be 8700 vodafone housings on eBay a few days ago but they are gone, so I'm looking into this one.
if you get the vodafine housing you are good to go, if you get the 8707v (also vodafone) you will need a different keypad.


-MC-
   
  (#47 (permalink)) Old
UberDave Offline
New Member
 
Posts: 10
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8700c
Carrier: AT&T
Default 10-27-2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_187
if you get the vodafine housing you are good to go, if you get the 8707v (also vodafone) you will need a different keypad.
So Mike, just to clarify, you switched your housing from an 8700c to 8707v, and you needed to switch the keypad? I thought the keypads for the two are the same.

Thanks
   
  (#48 (permalink)) Old
pspiegel Offline
CrackBerry Addict
 
Posts: 558
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Los Angeles
Model: 8820
Carrier: AT&T
Default 10-27-2006, 08:55 PM

has anyone successfully switched or replaced the housing on an 8703e yet?
   
  (#49 (permalink)) Old
armandov99 Offline
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Posts: 99
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Model: 8330
Carrier: Sprint
Default 10-31-2006, 09:15 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by UberDave
So Mike, just to clarify, you switched your housing from an 8700c to 8707v, and you needed to switch the keypad? I thought the keypads for the two are the same.

Thanks
No, he was telling ME (with an 8700g) that I would need a new keypad. The c,r and v have similar keypads. The g and e have a slightly different one. Look at the bottom row, especially the NUM and CAP buttons - they are much less round on the g and e keypads.

Does that help?
   
  (#50 (permalink)) Old
thatboiwes Offline
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
thatboiwes's Avatar
 
Posts: 467
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tyler, TX
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.52
PIN: 24706374
Carrier: at&t
Default 10-31-2006, 01:47 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I bought to of the silver Vodafone housings the other day off of eBay. I'm sorry if those were the ones you saw and are now gone. I have an extremely scuffed/scratched up Cingular housing so I'm excited about getting the replacement Vodafone housing. I'll let everyone know how the switch went.


at&t BlackBerry Curve 8310
e-mail: [email address]
LG9100f > BB7280 > BB8700c > HTC8525 > HTC3125 > BlackJack > HTC8125 > BB8310
   
  (#51 (permalink)) Old
wangta01 Offline
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
wangta01's Avatar
 
Posts: 382
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Model: 8310
PIN: 24276F06
Carrier: T-Mobile
Default 10-31-2006, 01:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thatboiwes
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I bought to of the silver Vodafone housings the other day off of eBay. I'm sorry if those were the ones you saw and are now gone. I have an extremely scuffed/scratched up Cingular housing so I'm excited about getting the replacement Vodafone housing. I'll let everyone know how the switch went.
yes, please let us know how this works for you! Good luck!
   
  (#52 (permalink)) Old
mike_187 Offline
CrackBerry Addict
 
mike_187's Avatar
 
Posts: 752
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: US and A
Model: 8100
Carrier: AT&T
Default 10-31-2006, 09:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thatboiwes
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I bought to of the silver Vodafone housings the other day off of eBay. I'm sorry if those were the ones you saw and are now gone. I have an extremely scuffed/scratched up Cingular housing so I'm excited about getting the replacement Vodafone housing. I'll let everyone know how the switch went.
i hope you got a keypad with the housing too.


-MC-
   
  (#53 (permalink)) Old
jfaulhab Offline
New Member
 
Posts: 1
Join Date: Jul 2006
Model: 8700c
Carrier: Cingular
Talking 11-01-2006, 04:07 PM

I just swapped the guts from my 8700c into a housing for an 8700g. Of course, I found the detailed instructions after I made the swap.

Anyway, I had two complete units (the g was water fried) and it seems to be working just fine with the c guts in the g housing.

I got the idea for switching the housings from this thread, so I wanted to post up and give props to those of you who figure this stuff out for the rest of us.
   
  (#54 (permalink)) Old
CZBB Offline
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
CZBB's Avatar
 
Posts: 156
Join Date: Dec 2005
Model: 8800T
Carrier: T-Mobile
Default 11-01-2006, 06:40 PM

If I did want to go from the 8700c housing to the 8700g housing does anyone know where I could get the keypad if it is indeed different?

Last edited by CZBB : 11-01-2006 at 06:43 PM.
   
  (#55 (permalink)) Old
thatboiwes Offline
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
thatboiwes's Avatar
 
Posts: 467
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tyler, TX
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.52
PIN: 24706374
Carrier: at&t
Default 11-02-2006, 01:59 AM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_187
Quote:
Originally Posted by thatboiwes
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I bought to of the silver Vodafone housings the other day off of eBay. I'm sorry if those were the ones you saw and are now gone. I have an extremely scuffed/scratched up Cingular housing so I'm excited about getting the replacement Vodafone housing. I'll let everyone know how the switch went.
i hope you got a keypad with the housing too.
Why would I need a new keypad switching from the 8700c to the solver Vodafone housing, like the one in your avatar? Isn't that what you did and said you had no problems switching? They look exactly the same to me except for the colors being switched.


at&t BlackBerry Curve 8310
e-mail: [email address]
LG9100f > BB7280 > BB8700c > HTC8525 > HTC3125 > BlackJack > HTC8125 > BB8310
   
  (#56 (permalink)) Old
takeshi Offline
BlackBerry Master
 
takeshi's Avatar
 
Posts: 4,917
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston
Model: 8310
Carrier: at&t
Default 11-02-2006, 10:03 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by acnst
All screws on the 8700 series are T6. I am not aware of that any of the screws is T5.
Well. You should tell my T6 drivers then...
Quote:
Originally Posted by paulbblc
There are no T5 screws, only T6.
Please see above. T6 too big. T5 fits perfectly.

Last edited by takeshi : 11-02-2006 at 10:28 AM.
   
  (#57 (permalink)) Old
armandov99 Offline
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
Posts: 99
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Model: 8330
Carrier: Sprint
Default 11-02-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thatboiwes
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)



Why would I need a new keypad switching from the 8700c to the solver Vodafone housing, like the one in your avatar? Isn't that what you did and said you had no problems switching? They look exactly the same to me except for the colors being switched.
The 8700g, 8700v, and 8703e have one type of keypad. The 8700c, 8707v and 8700r have a different type. The easiest way to tell the difference is the bottom row of buttons, it's much more round (especially the NUM and CAP buttons) on the c, v and r.

There are currently NO vodafone housings that fit an 8700g. Someone snapped them up a couple weeks ago. If you want to, do a search for item number 110045166972 (it's a completed listing). That's what fits an 8700g. If you bought that, then you would need a keypad from an 8700g or e. But it looks like you bought the 8707v housing, so you should be good to go since you have an 8700c.

So, recap:

8700g, 8700v, 8703e - keypad with pointy bottom row

8700c, 8700r, 8707v - keypad with more rounded bottom row

Helpful?

Last edited by armandov99 : 11-02-2006 at 03:20 PM.
   
  (#58 (permalink)) Old
thatboiwes Offline
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
thatboiwes's Avatar
 
Posts: 467
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tyler, TX
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.52
PIN: 24706374
Carrier: at&t
Default 11-02-2006, 03:31 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry 8700c: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

That's what I thought. But thank you for the reasurance.


at&t BlackBerry Curve 8310
e-mail: [email address]
LG9100f > BB7280 > BB8700c > HTC8525 > HTC3125 > BlackJack > HTC8125 > BB8310
   
  (#59 (permalink)) Old
thatboiwes Offline
Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
 
thatboiwes's Avatar
 
Posts: 467
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Tyler, TX
Model: 8310
OS: 4.5.0.52
PIN: 24706374
Carrier: at&t
Default 11-07-2006, 06:26 PM

I just successfully turned my Cingular 8700c into a Cingular 8707v! After reading the DIY sticky in this forum and having taken off the housing to clean a few times, it only took about 10 minits to do.

Unfortunatly, the 'NUM' and 'CAP' keys are a little stiff and the 8707v DOES NOT fit in the OEM plastic holster. Apparently it is a bit wider than the 8700c at the bottom so it doesn't go all the way into the holster and snap into place. Looks like it will be riding in my pocket for a while until I can get me a leather case.


at&t BlackBerry Curve 8310
e-mail: [email address]
LG9100f > BB7280 > BB8700c > HTC8525 > HTC3125 > BlackJack > HTC8125 > BB8310
   
  (#60 (permalink)) Old
mike_187 Offline
CrackBerry Addict
 
mike_187's Avatar
 
Posts: 752
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: US and A
Model: 8100
Carrier: AT&T
Default 11-08-2006, 12:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by thatboiwes
I just successfully turned my Cingular 8700c into a Cingular 8707v! After reading the DIY sticky in this forum and having taken off the housing to clean a few times, it only took about 10 minits to do.

Unfortunatly, the 'NUM' and 'CAP' keys are a little stiff and the 8707v DOES NOT fit in the OEM plastic holster. Apparently it is a bit wider than the 8700c at the bottom so it doesn't go all the way into the holster and snap into place. Looks like it will be riding in my pocket for a while until I can get me a leather case.
yea the keys are stiff because a slightly different keyboard overlay is used on a 8707v, even though in some cases is not noticeable and in some is.

leather case is pretty much the only option since there is no plastic holster for 8707, kinda sucks but what can you do.


-MC-
   
  (#61 (permalink)) Old
supadupahyphy Offline
Knows Where the Search Button Is
 
supadupahyphy's Avatar
 
Posts: 37
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Vacaville
Model: 8330
PIN: 319D15EF
Carrier: Sprint trying to Phase out Nextel
Default 11-10-2006, 04:34 PM

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I had the same problem too, but have gotten use to it and now live with it.
What's killin me is that the keys seem to fit really low on the housing(like they don't rise high enough)
Did anyone else have this problem?


KJ Lal
active pin: 319D48EF Feel free to add me.
I876 KEEP NEXTEL ALIVE!!!!!

Last edited by supadupahyphy : 11-10-2006 at 09:17 PM.