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New Member
Posts: 5
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: 8700c
PIN: N/A
Carrier: cingular
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04-16-2007, 10:48 PM
Should the PTT feature work now on my cingular 8700c ? if I pay for the service?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 116
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Rocks!
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-16-2007, 11:01 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
Anyone on TMo having issues with the Instant Messenger app? (Not the BB Messenger, but TMo's AIM, Yahoo, MSN client)?
Mine won't start up and I reinstalled. I get a long scryptic message ending in 'screen not found'.
Anyone? Not like I can call Tmo since they haven't released 4.2 yet.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 47
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Boston, MA
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile USA
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04-16-2007, 11:26 PM
I have a mac and 8700G is it possible to get 4.2 on my BB - if so how? someone please help!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 72
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Atlanta
Model: G1
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-16-2007, 11:31 PM
OS works great. No volume issues here. May pass on the 8300 with this upgrade .... 
WAINE06
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 144
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Burlington
Model: 8900
OS: 5.0.0.190
PIN: 2140D6E8
Carrier: Rogers
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.alx -
04-16-2007, 11:42 PM
hey everyone...last night at like 2am i saw a link to a .alx fine that im pretty sure unlocked all the vendor themes in 4.2 for 8700...now for the life of me i CANT FIND it...anyone can help?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 76
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rotterdam
Model: 8820
Carrier: KPN
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04-17-2007, 01:36 AM
these are the new OS options i've found so far:
message colors
you can configurate seperate SMS/Mailboxes
bluetooth dialup networking (finally, use BlackBerry as a wireless GPRS modem)
new bluetooth addressbook push option for carkits without addressbook-download option
enable fast switching between "zen menu" and icons by clicking middle key (really cool this, like the BB pearl/8800). This also works in other themes like the included Dimenson-Today theme.
easy setup wizard (including enterprise activation & date/timezone setup)
new mediaplayer (like the one on BB Pearl and 8800)
addressbook can now be excluded from the content protection (so you can see who is calling while using content protection!)
BlackBerry Maps now included
it's now possible to add images to contacts (and probably see who's calling)
alot of new "contact" images are included
soundrecorder to send audio messages (but not able to save them, only SEND them)
some new browser config settings
MDS Control Center
new firewall options (block SMS/MMS/PIN/BIS messages)
GPS menu exists but it not useable because no GPS onboard 8700 (or will it do something with an external GPS?
you can now turn off GPRS while roaming to save data costs but keep GSM activated
enterprise activation will automatically switch on wireless radio if it's not enabled
new background image for incoming calls
easy to switch new mail indicator to NEW or UNREAD
Possible to Display sender/subject over 2 lines for better reading (or not...)
New bluetooth stack with better carkit/headset compatibility
Calendar/Task reminder snooze option
Dutch autotext (new for most PwC users since 4.1.286 didnt have this)
display homepage when starting browser instead of bookmarks
Browser will ask for javascript support if needed
You can select a different default browser (e.g. : Opera Mini)
You can select the preferred browser for each bookmark (since some pages are better displayed with another browser)
Browser preview mode
Possbile to send web addresses by mail/pin/sms/mms instead of only via email
You can copy addresses back to the simcard (one at a time)
Select number of vibrations in your profiles
Send pictures of sounds over bluetooth to other devices
T and B shortcuts are finally working when using the dutch language pack (this was broken in 4.1.x)
Last edited by illy : 04-17-2007 at 01:37 AM.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 20
Join Date: Jan 2007
Model: 8700g
Carrier: Optus
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04-17-2007, 02:13 AM
I'm still having problems upgrading to 4.2.
However, perhaps someone who has 4.2 can let me know if they have the ability to play .WAV files now?
I get .WAV's as an attachment to emails for voicemails from my pbx. I am hoping 4.2 can now provide this function.
I hope so.
Thanks.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 769
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile UK
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04-17-2007, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ghoticov
Does anyone know if this new OS upgrade will allow for the use of Bluetooth to talk with a GPS unit using GPRS?
I know the Pearl and 8800 work for this so I assume it would.
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It works. I had a GPS receiver connected and BB Maps showed me my current position.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 769
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile UK
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04-17-2007, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by drawtheline
Has anyone else noticed that once installing 4.2 on your 8700, the volume of ring tones significantly decreases. I wear mine in the leather official 8700 case and once installing the new OS, i had to change the volume from low to high in some cases just to hear when i was getting a new message. Anyone else having this problem?
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Volume of alerts seems lower for me too.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 769
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile UK
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New bug? Alarm failed -
04-17-2007, 03:28 AM
I use my BB as a bedside alarm.
Last night I decided to switch off the BB, so it woke itself up in the morning. Normally this would have caused the weekdaily repeating alarm to go off at the same time.
Instead, the BB *did* wake up (I heard it interfere with my radio as the GPRS fired up) but the alarm did *not* sound. Previous mornings the alarm worked, so maybe there's an "alarm fails on wake-up" bug.
Anyone else seen this?
John
Last edited by wibbly : 04-17-2007 at 12:17 PM.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 201
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Waterloo / Wellington
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6.0.???
PIN: - point accuracy
Carrier: Rogers [unlocked]
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04-17-2007, 08:53 AM
Here's an interesting little feature I hadn't found until now.
The BBbrowser now holds histories for multiple days not just the current browser session. This includes (obviously...) all pages referred to it. So if you look up a page in beyond411 or another app the results will be logged in the history. A little 'heads up' for the security concious.
 - foner
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 381
Join Date: Mar 2006
Model: 8330
OS: 4.5.0.89
PIN: 0xDEADBEEF
Carrier: Bell Mobility
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04-17-2007, 10:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hadji
AMAZING!! This new OS 4.2 is the best thing that ever happend to my 8700.
NOW : Much faster, picture caller id, files transfer directly to my BB from Desktop Manager and to most amazing thing is that now I can change the permissions of the Keystroke inection and Browser filters from DENY to ALLOW, so now I can finally use my bluetooth keyboard. This update remove IT Policy? ( I was on BIS and never on BES)
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how did you get an IT policy w/o being on a BES???
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 57
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 10:50 AM
They shortcut keys don't seem to be working anymore. That is my only gripe. I can't just tap K to lock it, or O to get options... it sends me to the dial screen with the address book lookup with "k's" or "o's".
Has anyone found a way to re-enable the shortcuts?
Jester
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 48
Join Date: May 2006
Model: 8700
Carrier: singtel
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04-17-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MI_Jester
They shortcut keys don't seem to be working anymore. That is my only gripe. I can't just tap K to lock it, or O to get options... it sends me to the dial screen with the address book lookup with "k's" or "o's".
Has anyone found a way to re-enable the shortcuts?
Jester
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yes they do. press your phone green button. select menu. go to general option. change the option Dial from home screen from yes to no. save and u all set to have the same shortcut that was used previously.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 57
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Michigan
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 11:08 AM
Great! Thanks. I didn't even think of checking phone settings. I kept checking under options, advanced options...
That helps a lot.
Jester
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 267
Join Date: Apr 2005
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mo
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04-17-2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Knocka
I am disappointed that the new Zen theme installed with OS 4.2 displays Icons for Applications, instead of the scrolling list in the center of the screen. Does anyone know if it is possible to install the "old" Zen" theme from the Bharti or Telestra releases. I find the list of names of apps much easier than the icons.
Thanks.
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It's worse than that. When using the Zen theme, in almost any application, I could hit the convenience button for a list of applications. This doesn't work any more, I have to go back to the home screen to select an application.
Then again, I can set the convenience key to bring up the "switch application" list, but that only lists the open applications.
Bug or feature?
4.2.2.180
Visit my blog or my forum for more rants
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 267
Join Date: Apr 2005
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mo
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04-17-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by illy
...alot of new "contact" images are included...
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OMG, those are hideous.
4.2.2.180
Visit my blog or my forum for more rants
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New Member
Posts: 4
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Texas
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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PTT Functionality on 8700c - Cingular -
04-17-2007, 11:30 AM
someone asked if the PTT works - yes it does if you are on ATT/Cingular
I just logged into my account on the cingular web portal - added unlimited PTT (9.95 month) - then activated it on my 8700
Works like a charm 
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,760
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Model: Curve
PIN: No thanks, yo tienen una pluma.
Carrier: AT&T
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04-17-2007, 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by illy
these are the new OS options i've found so far:
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Great write up illy, thanks!
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 16
Join Date: Apr 2005
Model: 8300
Carrier: AT&T
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04-17-2007, 11:46 AM
Downloaded & installed with no problems so far. Nice find!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 171
Join Date: Mar 2006
Model: 8800
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 12:16 PM
I downloaded the 59.1MB file, installed it on my machine - but nothing happens...I am still on 4.1.0.346
The file asked me to close desktop manager while it installed on my machine. Opened it after the installshield gave me confirmation - nothing happens.
Would greatly appreciate any assistance u can provide. Thanks.
BlackBerry 8800
T-MO BIS
T-MO 4.5.0.37
Desktop Manager 4.5
PIN 205CC25C
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
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04-17-2007, 12:17 PM
The application list is gone. It's now an icon view with smaller icons than the icon theme.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,760
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Model: Curve
PIN: No thanks, yo tienen una pluma.
Carrier: AT&T
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04-17-2007, 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nike30
I downloaded the 59.1MB file, installed it on my machine - but nothing happens...I am still on 4.1.0.346
The file asked me to close desktop manager while it installed on my machine. Opened it after the installshield gave me confirmation - nothing happens.
Would greatly appreciate any assistance u can provide. Thanks.
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You need to delete the vendor.xml file in order to load the new OS, been covered on other posts in this thread.
Best of luck, cheers!
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 267
Join Date: Apr 2005
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mo
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04-17-2007, 12:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Storm
The application list is gone. It's now an icon view with smaller icons than the icon theme.
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But it's listed as an option in Screen/Keyboard Options. Shouldn't the convenience key always produce this list, either in text or icon form, regardless of whether we're on the home screen? I used to use this all the time, and I know I'm going to miss it.
4.2.2.180
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
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04-17-2007, 12:41 PM
No, The application list is now the icon view. The view has been replaced. This is how it is on 8100 and 8800. It's here to stay.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 55
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: NY
Model: 8310
PIN: 23f6aada
Carrier: ATT
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04-17-2007, 12:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaycary
I upgraded to 4.2 on my Cingular 8700c but have since downgraded to 4.1. My main issues were:
1. I couldn't get long messages to search for remaining text on some messages. It kept saying "service book not located". Other long messages were fine.
2. Attachments would not work
3. I couldn't get the calendar to wirelessly sync. I think I corrupted the Lotus Notes database somehow so even downgrading has not fixed this issue and the helpdesk at work is totally out of their league with anything above a password reset!
I loved the AT&T theme though. Is there any way to load the theme onto a 4.1 8700c. I have enabled all the themes on the device by modifying the alx file but it doesn't include the AT&T one[. The other carriers appear to be colour-blinf I found out though. Some awful themes out there!
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Can't get the colored messages to work, which theme does it work best?
Last edited by buddapaw : 04-17-2007 at 08:48 PM.
Reason: Worked it out myself
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 171
Join Date: Mar 2006
Model: 8800
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 01:39 PM
Thanks, snowskier79 - had a time finding the XML file . . . . but I am on cruise control now.
BlackBerry 8800
T-MO BIS
T-MO 4.5.0.37
Desktop Manager 4.5
PIN 205CC25C
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 1,760
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Houston, TX
Model: Curve
PIN: No thanks, yo tienen una pluma.
Carrier: AT&T
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04-17-2007, 01:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nike30
Thanks, snowskier79 - had a time finding the XML file . . . . but I am on cruise control now.
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Glad to hear, best of luck!
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New Member
Posts: 14
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Model: 8700
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 02:01 PM
Funny thing, every time i try downloading i get an Error in Spanish like "that address is incorrect. i have tried 10 different addresses that are correct.
Can someone host the file and post, i would like to download.
Please help!
thanks.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 82
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: LA
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 02:03 PM
and for 8707g too, coming....soon?
lol
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 72
Join Date: Dec 2004
Model: 8800c
Carrier: at&t
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Supports Bluetooth Modem Profile -
04-17-2007, 03:03 PM
I was able to pair my 8700c with 4.2.1 with my MacBook Pro, and now it can see the phone as a bluetooth modem!
There's a website out there with a 8100 modem script that might work -- but I'm having WAP issues in general with my phone so I can't verify -- I'm getting authentication errors.
Someone else might want to try?
"How do I use my Blackberry Pearl as a bluetooth modem with a Mac?" from the Ask Dave Taylor! Tech Support Blog
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 28
Join Date: Jan 2006
Model: 8800
Carrier: Tmobile
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04-17-2007, 03:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beprahst
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
Anyone on TMo having issues with the Instant Messenger app? (Not the BB Messenger, but TMo's AIM, Yahoo, MSN client)?
Mine won't start up and I reinstalled. I get a long scryptic message ending in 'screen not found'.
Anyone? Not like I can call Tmo since they haven't released 4.2 yet.
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I have T-mo as well but I don't use the Instant Messenger app because it uses text messages instead of my data plan. Have you found a way around this?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 28
Join Date: Jan 2006
Model: 8800
Carrier: Tmobile
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04-17-2007, 03:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by nike30
I downloaded the 59.1MB file, installed it on my machine - but nothing happens...I am still on 4.1.0.346
The file asked me to close desktop manager while it installed on my machine. Opened it after the installshield gave me confirmation - nothing happens.
Would greatly appreciate any assistance u can provide. Thanks.
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You need to delete the "vendor.xml" file and restart desktop manager.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 28
Join Date: Jan 2006
Model: 8800
Carrier: Tmobile
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04-17-2007, 03:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dtufino
Funny thing, every time i try downloading i get an Error in Spanish like "that address is incorrect. i have tried 10 different addresses that are correct.
Can someone host the file and post, i would like to download.
Please help!
thanks.
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check the 2nd/3rd page of this thread. There is a nice person hosting the file 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 123
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 03:32 PM
I guess I'm the only one, but frankly I hated the stupid list view in the zen theme. It was the only reason I stopped using that theme. Why have a widescreen display, and then go use a small list like that? It doesn't make sense to me, I couldn't stand it. I felt like I was using a Pearl screen.
I like the new icon menu.
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 955
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: SE PA thus the name^^
Model: 9000
PIN: eapple and ham pizza is good
Carrier: AT&T
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04-17-2007, 05:09 PM
Does anyone have any idea why I would not have the "change message color" option under the security setings?
It is not there. I am on BIS with Cingular- 8700C
Oh- one other thing- had my first crash ever of my BB today- using BBmaps. Completely shut the unit down in mid use. Had to restart, never happened before.
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"World Champions. World F---ing Champions"...Chase Utley. As heard by my 6 and 8 year old sons.
Last edited by johnfromphilly : 04-17-2007 at 05:16 PM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 116
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Rocks!
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 05:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by anderson
I have T-mo as well but I don't use the Instant Messenger app because it uses text messages instead of my data plan. Have you found a way around this?
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Frankly I hadn't noticed! I didn't use it alot and when I didn't I didn't check out my bill that closely. Maybe I better! But I have the Tmo unlimited data, Corp BES, 1000 minutes. They still charge you for text?? That's kind of a sham.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 116
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Rocks!
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 06:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by illy
these are the new OS options i've found so far:
message colors
you can configurate seperate SMS/Mailboxes
bluetooth dialup networking (finally, use BlackBerry as a wireless GPRS modem)
new bluetooth addressbook push option for carkits without addressbook-download option
enable fast switching between "zen menu" and icons by clicking middle key (really cool this, like the BB pearl/8800). This also works in other themes like the included Dimenson-Today theme.
easy setup wizard (including enterprise activation & date/timezone setup)
new mediaplayer (like the one on BB Pearl and 8800)
addressbook can now be excluded from the content protection (so you can see who is calling while using content protection!)
BlackBerry Maps now included
it's now possible to add images to contacts (and probably see who's calling)
alot of new "contact" images are included
soundrecorder to send audio messages (but not able to save them, only SEND them)
some new browser config settings
MDS Control Center
new firewall options (block SMS/MMS/PIN/BIS messages)
GPS menu exists but it not useable because no GPS onboard 8700 (or will it do something with an external GPS?
you can now turn off GPRS while roaming to save data costs but keep GSM activated
enterprise activation will automatically switch on wireless radio if it's not enabled
new background image for incoming calls
easy to switch new mail indicator to NEW or UNREAD
Possible to Display sender/subject over 2 lines for better reading (or not...)
New bluetooth stack with better carkit/headset compatibility
Calendar/Task reminder snooze option
Dutch autotext (new for most PwC users since 4.1.286 didnt have this)
display homepage when starting browser instead of bookmarks
Browser will ask for javascript support if needed
You can select a different default browser (e.g. : Opera Mini)
You can select the preferred browser for each bookmark (since some pages are better displayed with another browser)
Browser preview mode
Possbile to send web addresses by mail/pin/sms/mms instead of only via email
You can copy addresses back to the simcard (one at a time)
Select number of vibrations in your profiles
Send pictures of sounds over bluetooth to other devices
T and B shortcuts are finally working when using the dutch language pack (this was broken in 4.1.x)
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Two questions:
1. Where do you set the two-line message option? Mine doesn't have it in Email, Options, etc. Maybe it's a theme thing??
2. You can set Opera Mini as the default browser? I can't. I have Opera Mini installed, it works, but not an option under the Settings, Browser where you normally set it. Maybe because it was a "restored" app after the upgrade versus a straight OTA new install??
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New Member
Posts: 12
Join Date: May 2006
Model: 8700
Carrier: Rogers
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Installed on my Rogers 8700r -
04-17-2007, 06:33 PM
Installed on my Rogers 8700r and it works well. Somewhat slower but not really that noticable. Sweet find. 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 123
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Santa Monica, CA
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 07:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beprahst
Frankly I hadn't noticed! I didn't use it alot and when I didn't I didn't check out my bill that closely. Maybe I better! But I have the Tmo unlimited data, Corp BES, 1000 minutes. They still charge you for text?? That's kind of a sham.
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Sounds like you're on the $79.99 Minutes & Mail Enterprise. If so, you're fine, as M&M plans include unlimited SMS text messaging.
I love T-Mo!
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