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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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04-17-2007, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by beprahst
Two questions:
1. Where do you set the two-line message option? Mine doesn't have it in Email, Options, etc. Maybe it's a theme thing??
2. You can set Opera Mini as the default browser? I can't. I have Opera Mini installed, it works, but not an option under the Settings, Browser where you normally set it. Maybe because it was a "restored" app after the upgrade versus a straight OTA new install??
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1. Go to e-mail options, then select general options, then select change options for "display message header on."
2. I do not have Opera Mini installed, so this is an eduacted guess as to where to set this option, but it seems logical. Go to options, advanced options, browser, then select change option for "default browser configuration."
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04-17-2007, 08:04 PM
if you are a jivetalk user install the pearl/8800 version. its meant for 4.2. its running great for me on the 8700 w/ 4.2. just a tip.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 171
Join Date: Mar 2006
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04-17-2007, 08:36 PM
Now that I have 4.2 on my 8700...I wondering if I want to shell out $399 for the 8800 T-Mobile upgrade. I can get a GPS solution for much cheaper - if I feel the need.
And I really don't need an expansion slot (at the moment)....
*pondering*
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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04-17-2007, 08:51 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsy
1. Go to e-mail options, then select general options, then select change options for "display message header on."
2. I do not have Opera Mini installed, so this is an eduacted guess as to where to set this option, but it seems logical. Go to options, advanced options, browser, then select change option for "default browser configuration."
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I guess you have to try all the drop downs! I think the message header used to be a yes/no and I didn't even think it would be under that option. Thanks much!
As far as Opera goes...yep, that's where I looked for that. There's a dropdown that lists "Blackberry Browser", "Internet Browser", ir "Tzones"...no Opera Mini. Hmmmm.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 66
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Brooklyn
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Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-17-2007, 09:27 PM
Ack! Spent 2 $#*&;ing hours installing this thing last night.
Pros: I like the layout (time, icons, battery life) on some of the themes better. Love caller ID
Cons: This has been puzzling me all day...I can't edit the profile for my main email address.
I go under Profiles, choose advanced, then choose the profile (e.g. "Normal), edit, and then it lists:
Level 1 messages
messages (xyz@abc.com...my 2nd email address)
messages (xyz1@abc.com...my 3rd email address)
I can't edit my PRIMARY email address, and now the notifification is not working properly (I want Vibrate + Tone, and I want to change the ringer).
Somebody help, please!
Oh, and my Pocket Express hasn't recovered properly (keeps saying I need to update, and then links me to a bad URL), but that issue is secondary.
Also, the LED didn't go on after upgrading. I had to go change the setting.
8700g on T-Mobile in Brooklyn, NY
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04-17-2007, 10:24 PM
The 4.2 OS makes the phone noticeably slower.
I've also had a few times after I have made a call in which it has reset the phone automatically. There are definitely bugs in it.
I'm thinking about reverting back to 4.1. The lag time on the phone gets quite annoying.
Does anyone with the BB8800 have the lag time as well? Its not as responsive as the 8700. Im wondering if the 8320 will have these same issues.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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04-17-2007, 10:44 PM
Rut Roh...Seems I can't get internet access either. It takes FOREVER to open a screen, goes through the whole progress bar and then hangs......
I just got a message when trying to use the Gmail viewer that I need a data connection to update. Please check my signal. I had 3 bars EDGE.
Any suggestions?
I'm getting frustrated and don't know if these are things I can fix or if I should just scrap it all and go backwards
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04-17-2007, 10:48 PM
Anyone try the 4.2 from Optus that came out today yet?
BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.2.1.126 (Chinese)
Package Version: 4.2.1.126
Consisting of:
Applications: 4.2.1.85
Software Platform: 2.3.0.67
File name: 8700C_PBr4.2.1_rel126_PL2.3.0.67_A4.2.1.85_OPTUS.e xe
File size: 56.19MB
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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04-17-2007, 10:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flexichick
Rut Roh...Seems I can't get internet access either. It takes FOREVER to open a screen, goes through the whole progress bar and then hangs......
I just got a message when trying to use the Gmail viewer that I need a data connection to update. Please check my signal. I had 3 bars EDGE.
Any suggestions?
I'm getting frustrated and don't know if these are things I can fix or if I should just scrap it all and go backwards
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Right now there is a data outage on RIM's end - Your problem has nothing to do with 4.2 or at least is not directly related to the upgrade. The outage has been reported to the carriers and also to RIM.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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04-17-2007, 10:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarrett
Anyone try the 4.2 from Optus that came out today yet?
BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.2.1.126 (Chinese)
Package Version: 4.2.1.126
Consisting of:
Applications: 4.2.1.85
Software Platform: 2.3.0.67
File name: 8700C_PBr4.2.1_rel126_PL2.3.0.67_A4.2.1.85_OPTUS.e xe
File size: 56.19MB
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There is another 4.2 thread in the 8700 forum and someone tried it and all is working well!
Blackberry 8800 v4.5.0.108
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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04-17-2007, 11:04 PM
Whew! Thank you, Mdonders. That would have been BIG trouble!
Wanna take a stab at my other issue (see a few posts above)?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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04-17-2007, 11:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by flexichick
Whew! Thank you, Mdonders. That would have been BIG trouble!
Wanna take a stab at my other issue (see a few posts above)?
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Someone had posted earlier about them not having all their e-mail addresses in their profiles. They figured out that as you added more, the limit of two e-mail address in the profiles would be the last two you added. I think you need to re-add your primary e-mail address now and it should show up under profiles. If you don't get what I mean, post here or PIN me.
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04-17-2007, 11:25 PM
ah, I read most of the posts on this thread, but missed that. I'll try it.
Thanks for the tip!
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04-17-2007, 11:46 PM
Downloading Telefonica Venezuela version now...that bi-lingual stuff does come in handy!
(I don't speak or read enough Chinese...)
Gracias Scherif
DHREAD
I like it because it syncs every time!
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No EDGE or Browsers after upgrade -
04-17-2007, 11:56 PM
Did the upgrade on my 8700c and now can not get EDGE or any browsers in applications. Reset service books in BIS but still nothing.
Any ideas?
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04-18-2007, 12:12 AM
See earlier post re RIM outage. I have the same issue on T-mobile. Lower case edge. When I called customer support, they indicated an outage. Makes sense since I can't send, receive emails or access internet. I guess perfect timing for us doing the upgrades and figuring we did something wrong (at least I did!).
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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04-18-2007, 12:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarrett
Anyone try the 4.2 from Optus that came out today yet?
BlackBerry Handheld Software v4.2.1.126 (Chinese)
Package Version: 4.2.1.126
Consisting of:
Applications: 4.2.1.85
Software Platform: 2.3.0.67
File name: 8700C_PBr4.2.1_rel126_PL2.3.0.67_A4.2.1.85_OPTUS.e xe
File size: 56.19MB
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I installed this and noticed the Today theme was different in that it shows "applications" on the main page. I couldn't register to get my service books back so I couldn't get email, etc. The unlock bug was not fixed, so I decided to go back to the previous 4.2. I'll wait until something with more fixes comes out.
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04-18-2007, 12:53 AM
Istalled Optus. Themes available are: - AT&T
- Bell
- O2 Icon
- Orange
- Sprint
- Verizon
- Vodafone Today
Incase anyone's wondering the software only INCLUDES chinese, there is still a UK english option.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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04-18-2007, 12:54 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by VVoopie
I installed this and noticed the Today theme was different in that it shows "applications" on the main page. I couldn't register to get my service books back so I couldn't get email, etc. The unlock bug was not fixed, so I decided to go back to the previous 4.2. I'll wait until something with more fixes comes out.
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Unlock bug?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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04-18-2007, 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plchan
Hi Ramsy,
It is what I concern about it. Currently, I have CSL 4.1.x on my 8700. I believe I might need to wait for CSL 4.2.x to be available.
Do you like 4.2 on your 8700? I am with tmo too.
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4.2 Chinese is out. I just installed it and it works flawlessly. I can display Chinese characters, both simplified and traditional. I can also change input languages to simplified or traditional Chinese. Check out this post: Click here
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 36
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04-18-2007, 06:47 AM
Upgraded last night and it went perfectly. Right up until I couldn't get EDGE service. Saw the posts above so wasn't too worried. Now I have EDGE service but data program (email, web browsing, gmail, etc.) are responding that they don't have any data service. Tried to register on network and send service books but neither resulted in any response. Any thoughts?
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04-18-2007, 06:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by misthos
Upgraded last night and it went perfectly. Right up until I couldn't get EDGE service. Saw the posts above so wasn't too worried. Now I have EDGE service but data program (email, web browsing, gmail, etc.) are responding that they don't have any data service. Tried to register on network and send service books but neither resulted in any response. Any thoughts?
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One thought - there is a nationwide BlackBerry outage...
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04-18-2007, 07:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry
One thought - there is a nationwide BlackBerry outage...
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how bad does this suck? at least i have 4.2 and had something to do with it. who was it that called this a crackberry? man, i'm feeling it!! i need a hit!!! LMAO

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04-18-2007, 08:44 AM
Hi,
what is with my BES?
If I update to 4.2 is it needed to reactivate BES or can I just work like before the update?
Or mybe BES doesn't work after the update?
My IT will be not satified, if I update and then they have to reactivate or the BB doesn't work anymore.
Greetings
Markus
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04-18-2007, 09:01 AM
Can anyone run through what you have to do when you upload this? I have no clue where to start. I have downloaded it, but now where?
Tried opening the file that is downloaded, but it says 'error reading initialization file'
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04-18-2007, 09:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by WilCollins
Can anyone run through what you have to do when you upload this? I have no clue where to start. I have downloaded it, but now where?
Tried opening the file that is downloaded, but it says 'error reading initialization file'
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The directions are layed out on page 2 or 3 of this thread. You must rename your vendor file(follow directions on this) then plug in BB and open Desktop manager. It will recognize the new OS and run a wizard to set it up.
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04-18-2007, 10:11 AM
Installed it yesterday and I noticed a few things:
My 8700C makes a ticking noise like an analog clock all the time. Battery consumption is higher than usual; reboots when I delete an unread message; hangs when BB browser is interrupted before it finish loading.
Installed the chinese version and it looks much better, no ticking sound and no reboot so far.
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04-18-2007, 11:10 AM
ok, I had already deleted the vendor file, but opening the desktop manager doesnt initialize a upload or whatever.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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04-18-2007, 11:14 AM
I now have EDGE service back. Did not realize there was an outage last night.
Anyone else lose notifier settings in profiles after upgrade?
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04-18-2007, 11:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MBj
Hi,
what is with my BES?
If I update to 4.2 is it needed to reactivate BES or can I just work like before the update?
Or mybe BES doesn't work after the update?
My IT will be not satified, if I update and then they have to reactivate or the BB doesn't work anymore.
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My upgrade finished in the middle of the outage. I now have my BIS emails working and browsing back but it did not stay activated on the BES afterwards. Looks like the only option is to call IT to go through activation again.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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04-18-2007, 01:52 PM
Well, some things are getting better.
It took almost 8 hours to get the email address to show, up but once I deleted and re-added my primary email address, it showed up as an option under my profiles...so I was finally able to edit my ringtones, etc.
However, it took me all morning to post this (database error messages galore!).
New twist - I received a VM today and heard a faint constant dial tone even though the phone was not in use. Stayed this way until I listened to and cleared my VM. Even hitting "end call" didn't get rid of it. Weird.
Some of the other problems are probably still a result of the RIM outage
8700g on T-Mobile in Brooklyn, NY
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04-18-2007, 05:45 PM
Tried to install the BlackBerry Insight Icon and List themes onto my 8700 after upgrading to 4.2.1.66 and they don't seem to work. I installed the following files usign a modified ALX.
net_rim_theme_bb_insight_list_320x240.cod
net_rim_theme_bb_insight_icon_320x240.cod
net_rim_bb_backdrops_320x240.cod
They are installed now and both "BB Insight-Icon" and "BB Insight-List" options show up under Options -> Theme. However neither of them will show a preview and I can not activate them. Any ideas? Is there another file from the 4.1 firmware that I missed that will allow the older themes to work?
toddz
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04-18-2007, 07:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeproks
Installed the chinese version and it looks much better, no ticking sound and no reboot so far.
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What "looks" better in the chinese version?
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04-18-2007, 08:36 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Went from the cingular upgrade to 4.2 during the outage. Everything came online this morning and it works like a champ. I have the unlock bug too. I like the new Zen, and the way your last BB messenger message is in you message inbox.
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v 4.2.194
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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04-18-2007, 08:37 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)
Went from the cingular upgrade to 4.2 during the outage. Everything came online this morning and it works like a champ. I have the unlock bug too. I like the new Zen, and the way your last BB messenger message is in you message inbox.
 BlackBerry8700c/v
v 4.2.194
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4.2 and PocketMac -
04-18-2007, 09:30 PM
I upgraded to 4.2 successfully. My 8700g runs faster and I really like the Vodafone Today theme. However, now I can't seem to get PocketMac to recognize my 8700  . Tried different cables. Tried restarting, fixing permissions. Everything but reinstalling. Any other ideas?
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04-18-2007, 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Clark
Jibi's edited .alx files just have the vendorID references removed so that all themes are installed on all carriers.
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Hi there,
do you have a link of Jibi's edited .alx file?
-- TMO Blackberry 8700g since 09/24/2006
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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04-18-2007, 11:17 PM
After spending several days with the 4.2 upgrade and countless hours messing with it, I have decided to go back to the reliable 4.1 OS. I simply cannot stand the absence of the list file when you press the menu convenience key. But the biggie for me is a noticeable differnce in the ringtone and alert levels with the 4.2 OS. I am so use to the booming sound of the phone which seems to be lost with this new OS. Maybe it is just me, but I hear a big difference. In any event, I am not going to loose any more time with this new firmware and just wait a couple of months for the 8300
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04-18-2007, 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by plchan
Hi there,
do you have a link of Jibi's edited .alx file?
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http://www.blackberryforums.com/ring...-4-2-only.html
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04-19-2007, 01:56 AM
Got it all working, and so far so good. The fact that you can't unlock with the wheel sucks though.
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