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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 769
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: UK
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile UK
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04-19-2007, 01:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Srwilliams
I am so use to the booming sound of the phone which seems to be lost with this new OS. ...
wait a couple of months for the 8300
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... always assuming the 8300 will actually be louder and this is a not a new "design feature" being rollout in all new software 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 25
Join Date: Mar 2007
Model: 8700g
Carrier: T Mobile
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04-19-2007, 02:04 AM
Got it all working, and so far so good. The fact that you can't unlock with the wheel sucks though.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 76
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rotterdam
Model: 8820
Carrier: KPN
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04-19-2007, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by beprahst
Two questions:
1. Where do you set the two-line message option? Mine doesn't have it in Email, Options, etc. Maybe it's a theme thing??
2. You can set Opera Mini as the default browser? I can't. I have Opera Mini installed, it works, but not an option under the Settings, Browser where you normally set it. Maybe because it was a "restored" app after the upgrade versus a straight OTA new install??
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1) in the message options > general options
2) i don't have opera mini installed, i just noticed the option was there. I don't know if it works...
oops someone already said this. I have upgraded to the chinese optus version, but i managed to get the dutch language pack back by copying all files from C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.2.1.66_P2.3.0.59 to 8700-v4.2.1.85_P2.3.0.67 without overwriting anything.
Last edited by illy : 04-19-2007 at 06:51 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 116
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Rocks!
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-19-2007, 07:10 AM
Agree about the ringtone volume. I've missed two calls already...I'll have to switch to a louder one. Not sure what the change in unlocking the device...mine works exactly the same: click the wheel once for the unlock menu and the first option is to unlock so yiu click again and you have the password screen in two clicks. I actually use the return/enter key twice and type in my password. Maybe because I have an IT policy on a BES? Not sure but it hasn't changed for me.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 61
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Calgary, AB
Model: 9700
Carrier: Rogers Wireless
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04-19-2007, 09:49 AM
I seem to have a new problem with 4.2 on Rogers 8700r, wondering if anyone has come across it. We use a corporate BES on Lotus Notes.
On 4.1 and in the past, I have my email settings on the Blackberry to automatically hide Filed Messages. I use my inbox much like a tasklist, so as I get stuff done, I file emails into appropriate folders in Notes or on the Blackberry so that they vanish off the Inbox. Oddly, when I go to the Messages on the Blackberry, it shows all received messages by default. Even the ones that are filed. The icon even shows a folder which indicates it's filed. But this is with the hide filed messages feature on. If I turn it off, more messages show up of course.
This is puzzling me, I've checked all the other settings and I simply cannot figure this out. Am I missing something pretty basic that someone can point out?
Thanks in advance.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 26
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Dallas, TX | Panama City, Panama
Model: 7130g
PIN: 204C6D97
Carrier: US: AT&T | Panama: Cable & Wireless
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04-19-2007, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ezrunner
Primer Nombre: First Name
Apellido: Last Name
Título del Trabajo: Job Title
Compañía: Company
Dirección 1: Address Line 1
Dirección 2: Address Line 2
Ciudad: City
País: Country
I am illiterate here help! I can figure out a couple the rest beats me! I tried 5 languages and failed all!!!
*edit* Figured it out
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Google Translate is your friend...
My BlackBerry Evolution: 7290>8700g>7130g
PIN: 204C6D97
Last edited by jasonfont426 : 04-19-2007 at 11:25 AM.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
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04-19-2007, 11:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tolwyn
I seem to have a new problem with 4.2 on Rogers 8700r, wondering if anyone has come across it. We use a corporate BES on Lotus Notes.
On 4.1 and in the past, I have my email settings on the Blackberry to automatically hide Filed Messages. I use my inbox much like a tasklist, so as I get stuff done, I file emails into appropriate folders in Notes or on the Blackberry so that they vanish off the Inbox. Oddly, when I go to the Messages on the Blackberry, it shows all received messages by default. Even the ones that are filed. The icon even shows a folder which indicates it's filed. But this is with the hide filed messages feature on. If I turn it off, more messages show up of course.
This is puzzling me, I've checked all the other settings and I simply cannot figure this out. Am I missing something pretty basic that someone can point out?
Thanks in advance.
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In Messages go Options -> General options and you'll see the options for his filed and hide sent about half way down.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bellevue, WA
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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04-19-2007, 11:43 AM
I tried installing 4.2 on my 8700g last night but all I ended up with was a 4.2 version of the desktop software. Am I missing something? How do I upgrade the OS on my 8700g itself?
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
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04-19-2007, 11:48 AM
I think the instructions are on page 2 or 3 of this thread.
You have to download the device software separately from the desktop manager software.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Parkville, MD
Model: 8700c
PIN: 203CC888
Carrier: Cingular
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04-19-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BirnbaD1
someone asked if the PTT works - yes it does if you are on ATT/Cingular
I just logged into my account on the cingular web portal - added unlimited PTT (9.95 month) - then activated it on my 8700
Works like a charm 
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yes, he is correct. it activated after i added it to my plan. i need a contact to test it with..lol i don't know anyone with PTT.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 204
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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Cannot copy or paste into browser text box -
04-19-2007, 12:11 PM
I am running the latest Chinese version of OS 4.2. Has anyone noticed that in the Blackberry and internet browser, when the cursor is in a text box and you click on the track wheel, no menu pops up. Thus, you cannot copy, select, paste, etc. text into the text box. Can anyone running this version of the OS verify that they have or don't have this issue? Thanks.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 116
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Rocks!
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-19-2007, 12:27 PM
I have the issue!
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 204
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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04-19-2007, 12:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beprahst
I have the issue!
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Thanks for verifying that. I just wanted to make sure I am not going crazy. Now, could someone running the non-Chinese version of OS 4.2 see if this problem exists in that version of the OS?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 116
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Cleveland Rocks!
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-19-2007, 12:51 PM
Yes, please...I'd hate to upgrade twice in a week, but with that, Tmo's I'm app not working, and the low volume ringtones, I would considerate it. Wish I knew when Tmo was coming out with theirs!
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New Member
Posts: 3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: 8310
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
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Rogers (Canada) has Desktop 42 and HH 41351 -
04-19-2007, 12:56 PM
No need to go to that Venezuelan site to download the 42 software. Rogers has it.
https://www.shoprogers.com/web_auth/techsupport.asp
I've downloaded it, but haven't had time to install it.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Parkville, MD
Model: 8700c
PIN: 203CC888
Carrier: Cingular
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04-19-2007, 01:10 PM
how do i get the vodaphone theme? it's not on my 4.2.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
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04-19-2007, 01:24 PM
Instructions to load all the themes are all over this thread. There is only vodafone today for vodafone themes though.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
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04-19-2007, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by gucci_goonda
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Ummm...I sure don't see it there or on RIM's Rogers download page...
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New Member
Posts: 3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Model: 8310
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
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04-19-2007, 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Storm
Ummm...I sure don't see it there or on RIM's Rogers download page...
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I went directly to Roger's website. Did the page come up when you clicked the link I sent earlier? If so, you have to choose the brand, and then the device.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 62
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cincinnati, OH
Model: 8130
PIN: options>status
Carrier: Verizon
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04-19-2007, 01:37 PM
anyone found a CDMA compatible version yet? Verizon service is sweet here but their release are forever and a day to wait for.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
Carrier: Rogers
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04-19-2007, 01:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gucci_goonda
I went directly to Roger's website. Did the page come up when you clicked the link I sent earlier? If so, you have to choose the brand, and then the device.
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Yea, it's not there. Desktop manager yes. Handheld software no. Plenty of 4.1.0 though
But, if you can, prove me wrong.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Parkville, MD
Model: 8700c
PIN: 203CC888
Carrier: Cingular
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04-19-2007, 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Storm
Instructions to load all the themes are all over this thread. There is only vodafone today for vodafone themes though.
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that being said. how do i get the vodaphone theme? it's not on my 4.2.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
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04-19-2007, 01:52 PM
Again instructions are all over this thread including files to help.
Here's a thread I found by a very quick search: http://www.blackberryforums.com/rim-...ur-device.html
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 23
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bellevue, WA
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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04-19-2007, 01:54 PM
Ah, I just had to remove the vendor.xml file and it worked like a charm. Thanks everyone!
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New Member
Posts: 3
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04-19-2007, 02:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Storm
Yea, it's not there. Desktop manager yes. Handheld software no. Plenty of 4.1.0 though
But, if you can, prove me wrong.
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 Sorry, my mistake. It's actually 41 0351.... not 41351
The direct link to download 410351 is here:
http://downloads.rogers.com/wireless...1_Roger s.exe
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Jan 2006
Model: 8700c
Carrier: Cingular
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04-19-2007, 02:12 PM
- soundrecorder to send audio messages
Where is this feature found in the Zen theme?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 48
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Dallas, TX
Model: 8700g
Carrier: at&t
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Naturally -
04-19-2007, 06:19 PM
The day I load up OS 4.2, the network goes down. I wasted the better part of an evening trying to figure out what I did wrong.
Otherwise, no issues. (8700g T-Mobile, BES)
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CrackBerry Addict
Posts: 676
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: USA
Model: 8310
Carrier: Tmobile
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04-19-2007, 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsy
I am running the latest Chinese version of OS 4.2. Has anyone noticed that in the Blackberry and internet browser, when the cursor is in a text box and you click on the track wheel, no menu pops up. Thus, you cannot copy, select, paste, etc. text into the text box. Can anyone running this version of the OS verify that they have or don't have this issue? Thanks.
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I notice that too, but work around is click the wheel and use select mode.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 22
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: New Jersey
Model: 8800C
Carrier: AT&T
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Optus lastest 4.2 OS -
04-19-2007, 07:24 PM
<P>I was hesitant as I just upgraded the otherday and figured there couldnt be much of a difference (and there wasnt), BUT I was happy to find:</P>
<P> </P>
<P>1. My uncaught exception thqat I was getting when I played .mid ringtones has been fixed</P>
<P> </P>
<P>2. I had about 2 more megs of memory (43 megs after a reboot)</P>
<P> </P>
<P> </P>
<P>But like others, I think the ringtones are lower in volume, as I missed a few calls today. Overall, Im very happy with the upgrade to 4.2.</P>
<P> </P>
<P>All togeter with full backup and restore and Enterprise Activation, it took about 45 mins for the upgrade.</P>
<P> </P>
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 210
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Texas
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-19-2007, 11:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR900RR
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsy
I am running the latest Chinese version of OS 4.2. Has anyone noticed that in the Blackberry and internet browser, when the cursor is in a text box and you click on the track wheel, no menu pops up. Thus, you cannot copy, select, paste, etc. text into the text box. Can anyone running this version of the OS verify that they have or don't have this issue? Thanks.
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I notice that too, but work around is click the wheel and use select mode.
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Well just tried with 4.2.1.66 the Telefonica build and it can not cut or paste in a text box, very sad. Using select mode is not really an option because you can't get into a text box in that mode.
toddz
T-Mobile 8900 with a working Alt key :P
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 204
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04-19-2007, 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toddz
Well just tried with 4.2.1.66 the Telefonica build and it can not cut or paste in a text box, very sad. Using select mode is not really an option because you can't get into a text box in that mode.
toddz
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Thanks for the verification. This seems to be a major bug in this OS. I cannot even get around this bug by using Opera Mini as it will not run on the latest Chinese OS 4.2.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2007
Model: 8310
Carrier: ATT
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04-19-2007, 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsy
Thanks for the verification. This seems to be a major bug in this OS. I cannot even get around this bug by using Opera Mini as it will not run on the latest Chinese OS 4.2.
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Same here. Can select but can't copy and paste 
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2007
Model: 8310
Carrier: ATT
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04-19-2007, 11:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perfect Storm
Instructions to load all the themes are all over this thread. There is only vodafone today for vodafone themes though.
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vodafone today is not working my 8700c v4.2. I installed it but can't activate it. Is there anything special that need to be done to activate it?
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BlackBerry Mensa
Posts: 7,539
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Location: Houston
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04-19-2007, 11:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tolwyn
Oddly, when I go to the Messages on the Blackberry, it shows all received messages by default. Even the ones that are filed. The icon even shows a folder which indicates it's filed. But this is with the hide filed messages feature on. If I turn it off, more messages show up of course.
This is puzzling me, I've checked all the other settings and I simply cannot figure this out. Am I missing something pretty basic that someone can point out?
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This is how 4.2 seems to behave if you have Hide Filed Messages set and yet your filters are set to forward mail form a subfolder.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 34
Join Date: Apr 2005
Model: 8320
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-20-2007, 01:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tolwyn
I seem to have a new problem with 4.2 on Rogers 8700r, wondering if anyone has come across it. We use a corporate BES on Lotus Notes.
On 4.1 and in the past, I have my email settings on the Blackberry to automatically hide Filed Messages. I use my inbox much like a tasklist, so as I get stuff done, I file emails into appropriate folders in Notes or on the Blackberry so that they vanish off the Inbox. Oddly, when I go to the Messages on the Blackberry, it shows all received messages by default. Even the ones that are filed. The icon even shows a folder which indicates it's filed. But this is with the hide filed messages feature on. If I turn it off, more messages show up of course.
This is puzzling me, I've checked all the other settings and I simply cannot figure this out. Am I missing something pretty basic that someone can point out?
Thanks in advance.
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I simply can't believe it myself, but this is by design in 4.2 and there is nothing we can apparently do about it. See it in the RIM tech note here, this is what you are talking about, right:
BlackBerry Search Results
(Even though the note says Lotus Notes, it applies to Exchange all the same.)
I still can't believe this change! In essence, it will fundamentally change the way I use my Blackberry to keep my email organized and maybe even the way I use Outlook to manage my messages.
Jarrett
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 76
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rotterdam
Model: 8820
Carrier: KPN
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04-20-2007, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by gucci_goonda
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and we are talking about 4.2.x here...
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 15
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Parkville, MD
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PIN: 203CC888
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04-20-2007, 08:36 AM
but how cool is PTT?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 210
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Texas
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile
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04-20-2007, 10:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramsy
Thanks for the verification. This seems to be a major bug in this OS. I cannot even get around this bug by using Opera Mini as it will not run on the latest Chinese OS 4.2.
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Well, that is a new one, with the Telefonica 4.2.1.66 build, I can use Opera Mini 3.0.6540. Which version are you using with the Optus 4.2.1.85 build. I guess I may hold off on updating 4.2.
toddz
T-Mobile 8900 with a working Alt key :P
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 82
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati
Model: 8800
Carrier: Cbell
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04-20-2007, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by mogin770 View Post
I have no idea why but I cannot seem to get this installed. When I use the application Loader it never shows the 4.2.1. It only shows the 4.1.1., so uninstalled the 4.1.1 and now it doesnt show any to install. Anyone have this similar problem?
I have deleted the vendor file but the DM does not prompt for upgrade...ideas?
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 204
Join Date: Apr 2006
Model: 9000
Carrier: AT&T
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04-20-2007, 12:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by toddz
Well, that is a new one, with the Telefonica 4.2.1.66 build, I can use Opera Mini 3.0.6540. Which version are you using with the Optus 4.2.1.85 build. I guess I may hold off on updating 4.2.
toddz
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I am running Optus 4.2.1.126 and installed Opera Mini 3.1. I have no option to install prior versions of Opera Mini via wap or desktop. If someone can point me to where I can download prior versions of Opera Mini, I would like to try them with this version of the Optus OS.
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