if you are using an 8700 then yes you can

go to program files>>>common files>>>>Research in Motiom>>>app loader...Select and delete Vendor.XML

Anyone know if it is possible to get the BB_Insight_List theme with OS4.2 - It won't let me add it to the alx file and I cannot download it OTA. I am assuming that maybe I can load it with javaloader?

Anyone out there know?

Well, looks like the wait goes on for CDMA users.

I am - an 8700C.

So do I delete the one I have now, run the new version or run the new and at some point delete the file it creates?

I wonder how far back they are willing to back-port 4.2? Meaning is the 71xx series a dead platform?

How would the upgrade process work for someone like me that has a 8700c (on company-controlled BES) that I never sync to a computer...only wireless sync with my Lotus Notes at work. Is there an OTA way to get this upgrade like I've gotten all my 3rd party apps? Or do I have to wait until my IT guys push this out to my device (next decade).

You'll need the desktop manager installed and the software. You'll have to resync the phone to the BES when done.

when you load the 4.2 device software to your PC you will need to delet before attempting to load to your BB

Unless it's built for 4.2.1 you're out of luck. Smoothie is the only 4.1 theme that seems to work (for some reason) on 4.2.1.

Ok thanks. Guess it is Zen for now. Maybe I will get used to it.

Nice find on the 4.2 software...
Upgrade took FOREVER but maybe cause I have over 3k Contacts and crapload of messages...
Took over an hour to fully upgrade but looks good...

One issue is the stupid thing that the Pearl and 8800 do, cant unlock the stupid phone by double clicking and hitting unlock...

Did anyone come up with a workaround (not including * and green phone icon)
I haven't been lurking the Pearl and 8800 groups and my wife barely uses hers so dont matter...

Just to clarify on themes, are the 3 BB Dimension themes (Icon, Today, Zen) the only 3 I will be able to use and that are available for the device?

(When I go to the themes section of the BB Mobile website it says: "Sorry, themes are currently not supported for your software version." Killing me!)

I have a TMO 8700g.

Thanks all.

Jarrett

When you use your BB Browser the server can recognize what OS you are using. What that means is that there are not any new themes developed for v4.2 on the 8700 series.

Those come loaded for all the various carriers however I'm not sure if you will have any others. I'm on Cingular and I modified the .alx file so I don't remember if there were any others by default for TMO.

Here is how to enable the other themes that are available as I am not 100% sure on where the posts are.

If you go to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research in Motion\Shared\Loader Files\8700-v4.2.1.66_P2.3.0.59 - You will find a file called Blackberry.alx

I would make a backup of this file just in case, but this is how you enable the other themes. You open the file in a text editor (notepad, textpad) and then you are going to search for the string vendorID. When you find this string you will see vendorID = ###

Those numbers are the carriers in which the themes are enabled for. If you are on T-Mobile you are going to add 100 to each of the strings and then each of the themes will be available on T-Mobile. Save the file and launch Desktop Manager and make sure that your BB is connected. Click 'Application Loader' and it should either auto-detect the change or if you hit next it will install the themes that you put 100 next to. I believe Cingular is 102 and the other ones I am not 100% sure of, but they are on the forums somewhere.

If I am missing something please feel free to edit this post or correct me.

Great write up mdonders! I have had several ppl PM me and I am pointing them to your post for further explanation.

Did anyone come up with a mirror site for this? for some reason I keep getting this error message when im trying to download the dang file:

"La dirección de correo que nos ha proporcionada no es una dirección de correo valida."

The last line of the form is e-mail address. Some people think it is zip code, but make sure you put in a valid e-mail address in order to receive the download link.

[ Donders ]

answered my question exactly, thanks.

If you plug that in to Google's Translator it reads:

The mail direction that it has provided to us is not a valued direction of mail.

Entertaining none the less!

Boy you guys are good. I cannot read spanish or whatever language that is and so I am at a complete loss as to how to even fill out the form to get the download. Am I missing something here, or are all you guys that multi-linguistic

Please help

Just translated the page.

For everyone else the fields read as follows:
First Name:
Last Name:
Title of Work:
Company:
Address 1:
Address 2:
City:
Country:
State/Province:
E-Mail:
Remember Me?
Select Si.

There ya go!

I live in Houston, TX. Speaking Spanish or the ability to pick up on some of the language is almost of a necessity! I am by no means fluent but can pick up on some words to somewhat understand the conversation, text, etc.

And of course I rely heavily on on-line translators (i.e. Google Translator).

I upgraded and I definitely have to say I notice a lag on my 8700g....not tooo severe, but its definitely there and definitely noticeable, especially when changing tones for alerts and such or scrolling through my calendar in agenda view

Its nice though, and there are definitely some features I appreciate in it.

And like most people said, the upgrade can take some TIME so bear with it - I sat there for at least ten minutes watching an hour glass praying I didn't just a butload of time and have to restore but thankfully all went well (so far)....

Are there any other details on this. My understanding is all BBs use the same processor, and are all based on the same stack over Java. So what is it that can not be supported on this for CDMA.

Not that I dought this I have herd this before due to patent issues, and limited number of network hardware venders. CDMA is generally play catch up. I am just curious as to what it is here with BBs

They use similar processors but not all the same processors.

They are all ARM based (from the 6200 series and up) but some are ARM7 and some are ARM9. The 8700 uses an XScale processor. The 8703 uses a ARM processor embedded in the EVDO chipset. The other's I'm not so sure about.

Also CDMA is its own protocol, loading GSM firmware on a CDMA phone won't work, just like you can't install ethernet drivers on a token ring network card.

ya, i read it wrong..sorry

No there isn't.

Sorry to ask another question, but I have done a few searches of the forums and can't seem to find a definitive answer and this problem started today immediately after my upgrade.

Here goes:

TMO 8700g/BES
Upgraded from the latest Cingular release (509?) to 4.2
Previously used Wave Icons theme I believe. (Have tried a number of the themses on the device to see if it was theme related and no dice.)

I don't even have to explain the problem, it is adequately explained here with no apparent resolution:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...reen-help.html

I have searched around and found a couple other instances of it mentioned in the forum, though never with any resolution.

Any help or insights would be appreciated.

Thanks!

You referring to the Desktop Manager program. This post is covering the Operating System v4.2.166 to the 8700 series.

After having the 4.2 OS running since early this evening, I've noticed a few things:

1) Browsing and anything else that involved loading images was terribly slow. However, after half a day of use, it seems to have gone back to normal. I can't explain this, at all...it's just weird. The first time I opened the images folder in the media app, it seriously took about 3-4 minutes to load everything. Now it works just like it used to. I have no idea what's up. Browsing also went back to normal after half a day.

2) When browsing, holding ALT while scrolling no longer scrolls by page. What I mean is, before when I was on 4.1, holding ALT and scrolling down would be like scrolling down using SPACE (or page down on a PC). Same thing for ALT-scroll up. This no longer works. Holding ALT in the browser STILL scrolls by line rather than by page. I can't stand this. This alone might make me go back to the old OS.

3) The "Unlock" problem where selecting "Unlock" doesn't work and you have to hit * TALK. I can't stand it, as I was used to hitting the scroll wheel twice.

I'm just going to try not to go crazy before I can pick up an 8300...

This came a surprise to me.

Are you aware that OS 4.2 Handset software is not offically released on RIM? If you take a look at RIM/Blackberry site and you will find nothing relating to OS 4.2.

I spent about 45 minutes with a RIM technical person via T-Mobile customer rep. last night to resolve my e-mail problems (this has nothing do with the OS 4.2 which I haven’t loaded up). So I had to ask him a question about OS 4.2 Handset software. He told me that the one we saw is preliminary software. It will release publicly in real soon. My suggestion to you is to wait for the offical released software.

Of course T-Mo would say that, they haven't released it yet. Carriers release as they see fit, and apparently venezuela is ahead of them.

If it's on the RIM site, it's released.

So is everything in Spanish or in English? Or is it just the online form and error message that appear in Spanish?

No, it was not from T-Mobile. It was from a RIM Tech person.

This is an official RIM release, it's just not for tmo or cing. Does anyone else find it odd that this South American os has the at&t theme as it's primary theme? Is this carrier affiliated with at&t?

You missed the whole piont... this is not a MP3 player like the 8800 this is like any other phone with limited memory for some of your favorite ring tones up to 30seconds not an entire song like others want!!!

I noticed dimension today theme lost the profile menu on bottom. I tried to reinstall but refuse to activate. Am I missing something?

BR,
Jaime

I need more themes !!!!! Jibi, where are you.... ? lolz

For those that are complaining about the unlock issue... My IT policy locks after every 30 mins of not being in use so this is a big deal but i dont understand why some of you prefer to double click... why not just enter your password... i accidently discovered this.. instead of hitting unlock then password just type the password and Enter or hit the wheel...

I get this crash as well.

Jester