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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 20
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
Carrier: T-Mobile
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05-07-2007, 10:38 PM
Guys-
I'm in fact running 4.2.1.8
John-
Screenshot is here
Thanks for trying to figure this one out. I'm totally lost.
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
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05-07-2007, 10:52 PM
Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling the OS package?
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 20
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
Carrier: T-Mobile
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05-08-2007, 08:55 AM
Ok so this morning I figured I'd start from scratch. Uninstalled the updates and then the Desktop Manager. I downloaded fresh copies of both and reinstalled. Then I deleted the vendor file. Upon restarting the desktop manager and plugging in the BB the software it scanned the BB (I was hopeful here) and it is still doing the same thing.
I'm fresh out of ideas at this point...
EDIT: Just tried wiping the device (it is new to me so nothing lost) in hopes of that helping but nothing changed upon plugging it back in.
Last edited by thaclient : 05-08-2007 at 09:04 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 142
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Lancaster California
Model: 8320
OS: 4.5.0.174
PIN: prick
Carrier: T-mobile
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rut roh -
05-08-2007, 05:00 PM
Hey everyone.. I have been getting an:
"uncaught exception"
Net.Rim.device.api.system.controlledAccessExceptio n
Anyone else experiencing this and is there a fix for it? Or is it just annoying and I have to deal with it.
Last edited by jimispier : 05-08-2007 at 11:47 PM.
Reason: Cosmetic
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New Member
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Overlord Theme -
05-09-2007, 05:48 PM
Since I upgraded to 4.2, I'm not able to activate the Overlord theme any longer. I haven't seen any postings on this. Is anyone else able to use it?
Thx,
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 20
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami
Model: 8320
PIN: N/A
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05-09-2007, 09:17 PM
Got it working!
I uninstalled the Chinese version and installed the Telefonica and still nothing. Then, it occured to me that since Vista is a pain I should try running the Blackberry Desktop as an administrator. Lo and behold upon rebooting it as an admin it detected the upgrade and prompted me to continue. After this completes I'll install the Optus version.
So stupid and simple that I couldn't even see it. Hope this helps anyone else on Vista that might be having issues!
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No longer Registered.
Posts: 647
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mesa Arizona
Model: 8800
PIN: 240582A8
Carrier: tmobile
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05-10-2007, 01:13 AM
the venusalan os give you typing problems with yahoo instant messernger
eg if it tyed "this" it comes out as siht"
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.114
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05-10-2007, 02:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dataman100
Since I upgraded to 4.2, I'm not able to activate the Overlord theme any longer. I haven't seen any postings on this. Is anyone else able to use it?
Thx,
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Couldn't have looked very hard; I know I've posted this at least a half dozen times.
No 4.1 themes will work aside from theme builder ones, and even those aren't always working.
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New Member
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Model: 8700c
Carrier: Cingular
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05-10-2007, 03:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jimispier
Hey everyone.. I have been getting an:
"uncaught exception"
Net.Rim.device.api.system.controlledAccessExceptio n
Anyone else experiencing this and is there a fix for it? Or is it just annoying and I have to deal with it.
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I also am getting this when running media files (ringtones, mp3) got no fix but am interested....
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New Member
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05-10-2007, 03:42 PM
I don't know if I'm just stupid or what but I can't seem to find the option to arrange applications after upgrading to 4.2.166 from the Venezualian telephono site. (8700c Cingular)
Anyone have any suggestions?
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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05-10-2007, 03:44 PM
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New Member
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05-10-2007, 03:50 PM
Bless you PStorm.... I was getting very annoyed... now about that "Uncaught exception" problem.. 
Last edited by jestock : 05-10-2007 at 03:55 PM.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
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05-10-2007, 04:11 PM
Seems to me 4.2.1.85 fixed this
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New Member
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05-10-2007, 04:22 PM
Do you know where I can get 4.2.1.85?
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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05-10-2007, 04:33 PM
Seeing as how this is the 4.2.1.85 thread... 
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New Member
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05-10-2007, 04:56 PM
oooookkkkkaaaaayyyyyy..... well I found it and I'll upgrade to 4.2.1.85 .... and proabably be back with problem with that.... ;)
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 172
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: winnipeg
Model: 8900
PIN: 24A65CB9
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05-11-2007, 06:18 PM
does that work for the rogers 8700, and will i now beable to load pics from the desktop manager?
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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05-11-2007, 10:08 PM
answer = yes * 2;
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BBF Moderator
Posts: 33,164
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: 8900
OS: 4.6.1.250
PIN: s & needles
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05-13-2007, 02:59 AM
Newer OS version 4.2.1.91 Released. (No Chinese support)
Get it Here
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 172
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: winnipeg
Model: 8900
PIN: 24A65CB9
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05-13-2007, 02:58 PM
how do i organize my applications in the zen theme? right now its listed setup wizard call log messages black beery messenger and calender, i dont use half of those, i need to get them in the order of address book, call log, messages(sms), calculator and notepad, much thanks
my dad said off with my head if i can't do that for him HELP! lol
Last edited by snoxr500 : 05-13-2007 at 03:16 PM.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 284
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: West Henrietta, NY
Model: 8900
Carrier: T-Mobile
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05-14-2007, 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR900RR
https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...4E92D025A75D1F
EDIT : dead link corrected
EDIT2 : updated BLACKBERRY.ALX file to unlock all themes
EDIT 3: Added instructions for installation
To install this update:
1. Download and install the latest version of Desktop Manager
2. Donwload this OS and install it to the PC.
3. Delete the vendor.xml file located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader (this step is necessary any time an OS is installed from a different carrier than what is branded on the BB.)
4. Plug in BB and open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.
To add the vendor themes with the Blackberry.alx included in the BlackBerry.zip below. This can be done before or after the upgrade. Recommendations are to do it after the installation of the OS.
1. Download and unzip the file below.
2. Go to c:\program files\common files\research in motion\shared\loader files\8700-v4.2.1.85_P2.3.0.67
2. Find the Blackberry.alx and rename it Blackberry.old (you can delete the old one but this allows you to restore it easily if necessary)
3. Copy the new Blackberry.alx you unzipped into this same folder where the old Blackberry.alx was.
4. Now connect the BB and run Desktop Manager and open Application Loader. You should see that "core applications" says "upgrade." Finish the installation.
Note: You do not use the "add" feature in Application Loader for this process.
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For T-Mobile BB users....
By the way, T-Mobile may release BIS 2.3 (would be applied to OS 4.2)? Here is a link:
http://www.smartphonetoday.com/artic...obile-May.html
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
Posts: 2,467
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Ottawa
Model: 8900
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05-14-2007, 10:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by snoxr500
how do i organize my applications in the zen theme? right now its listed setup wizard call log messages black beery messenger and calender, i dont use half of those, i need to get them in the order of address book, call log, messages(sms), calculator and notepad, much thanks
my dad said off with my head if i can't do that for him HELP! lol
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 19
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Model: 9630
Carrier: Verizon
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05-18-2007, 12:20 PM
The only thing that seems to be problematic for me, is the indicator light doesn't work on the new OS, Green or Red 
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 19
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: U.S.A.
Model: 9630
Carrier: Verizon
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05-18-2007, 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galvatron
the venusalan os give you typing problems with yahoo instant messernger
eg if it tyed "this" it comes out as siht"
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I think your BB might be dyslexic 
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No longer Registered.
Posts: 647
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Mesa Arizona
Model: 8800
PIN: 240582A8
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05-18-2007, 03:07 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
My led works just fine. Check under you option wether or not your coverage led indicator is active.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 49
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta
Model: 8320
PIN: 24266447
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07-04-2007, 12:18 AM
I've just installed this onto my 8700 (I'm with t-mo). I haven't noticed too much that's different other than the "Change Language" option when composing an email. I have however noticed that the browser and BBMessenger is noticably faster. I've also used the updated blackberry.alx file and it seems to have uploaded all the themes without any problems.
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 49
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta
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07-04-2007, 12:31 AM
I'm not sure if this is theme dependant but I've activated the AT&T theme and when I'm viewing a message it gives me an option to "instant message". Does anyone else have this?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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07-04-2007, 01:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by abigorbot
I'm not sure if this is theme dependant but I've activated the AT&T theme and when I'm viewing a message it gives me an option to "instant message". Does anyone else have this?
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Interesting piece of info.
What type of messages are you viewing- Yahoo email account or POP3
or other?
Can't remember seeing that option on my 8700g when I had this OS.
But then, I wasn't actually observing too closely. 
~Graph,
8700g>DASH><8320><P1i><E71-2><G1>
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
Posts: 49
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Atlanta
Model: 8320
PIN: 24266447
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07-04-2007, 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by graphreak
Interesting piece of info.
What type of messages are you viewing- Yahoo email account or POP3
or other?
Can't remember seeing that option on my 8700g when I had this OS.
But then, I wasn't actually observing too closely. 
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It was a pop3 mail from my tmo.blackberry.net account. I'll forward those messages to my gmail account which is how I noticed the new menu option.
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New Member
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07-09-2007, 10:27 PM
Hey guys and gals,
First time poster - spent about 2 hours yesterday lurking.
I just successfully upgraded my 8700r (R= Rogers, methinks) to the latest 4.2 OS [Pkg:4.2.1.155, App:4.2.1.96, Plt:2.3.0.79 (ATT)] with no problems so far.
I just followed the directions carefully - ensuring that I deleted the vendor.xml file and presto-bango my Rogers Smart Phone can now use the Media Manager in the 4.2 DM - something that RIM itself says is not possible.
Just wanted to thank all the regulars here - google.com is your friend and it led me here.
Cheers from beautiful B.C.
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BlackBerry Extraordinaire
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07-09-2007, 10:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoomie
Hey guys and gals,
First time poster - spent about 2 hours yesterday lurking.
I just successfully upgraded my 8700r (R= Rogers, methinks) to the latest 4.2 OS [Pkg:4.2.1.155, App:4.2.1.96, Plt:2.3.0.79 (ATT)] with no problems so far.
I just followed the directions carefully - ensuring that I deleted the vendor.xml file and presto-bango my Rogers Smart Phone can now use the Media Manager in the 4.2 DM - something that RIM itself says is not possible.
Just wanted to thank all the regulars here - google.com is your friend and it led me here.
Cheers from beautiful B.C.
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Where do they say this?
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07-09-2007, 11:32 PM
Let me dig it up - they sort of contradict themselves in two of their technical help topics.
One topic says that Media Manager requires 4.2 DM and 4.2 OS - while another states that Media Manager requires the two 4.2's and must be either 8100,8300 or 8800 series BB.
It could very well be that the second article was written before the 4.2.xx code was produced for the 8700 series BB.
I'm just happy it works - saves me from having the DL some shareware picture uploader that may or may not work. 
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New Member
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07-10-2007, 02:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Galvatron
eg if it tyed "this" it comes out as siht"
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I get this too on occasion with 4.2.1.96 and Blackberry Messenger. I usually have to end the conversation, close the app and reopen and it's fine again.
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No longer Registered.
Posts: 647
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Location: Mesa Arizona
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07-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
I ussulay have to do a hard reset cause it affects yahoo as we'll as bbim
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BlackBerry Mensa
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07-11-2007, 10:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halford
Is this for general 8700 models and the other file is for 8700c? Id like to know before I download a file from your website. Thaks...
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An 8700 is an 8700 regardless of the letter that follows. It's the 8703, 8705, and 8707 that are actually different models.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoomie
One topic says that Media Manager requires 4.2 DM and 4.2 OS - while another states that Media Manager requires the two 4.2's and must be either 8100,8300 or 8800 series BB.
It could very well be that the second article was written before the 4.2.xx code was produced for the 8700 series BB.
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That's precisely it. 4.2 for the 8700 is still relatively new whereas the other three models mentioned above have always been 4.2 devices.
Last edited by takeshi : 07-11-2007 at 10:34 AM.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2007
Model: 8310
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07-19-2007, 11:41 PM
My 8700C with ATT is using this version 4.2.1.126.
I found that my ringtone and volume is low. Also seems bblights is not working. Anyone can help?
Thanks!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 107
Join Date: Aug 2004
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Model: 8700r
Carrier: Rogers
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4.2 work on Rogers BB -
07-20-2007, 12:49 PM
Hello,
I would like to do an upgrade but wondering if it will work on 8700 BB
With Rogers Canada anyone tried it ?
please let me know
Thanks
hype129
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 81
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Model: 9000
OS: 5.0.0.348
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07-20-2007, 12:58 PM
Yep, works fine with Rogers.
Und die Wellen weinen leise
In ihrem Herzen steckt ein Speer
Bluten sich am Ufer leer.
-Till Lindemann
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No longer Registered.
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07-20-2007, 01:19 PM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0) BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)
All you have to do is delete the vendor.xma after your don installing the newer os. I'm using vodaphones OS on my tmo 8800
I have att's os on my 8700g
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07-20-2007, 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CBR900RR
https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...4E92D025A75D1F
To install this update:
1. Download and unzip the file below.
4. Now connect the BB and run Desktop Manager and open Application Loader. You should see that "core applications" says "upgrade." Finish the installation.
Note: You do not use the "add" feature in Application Loader for this process.
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hello, does this work on a T-Mobile BB 8800 as well? also, how does one try to do this under Mac OS 10.4?
thank you very much!
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