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New Member
Posts: 14
Join Date: Nov 2005
Model: 7130e
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11-22-2007, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MooseNYC
I received my kit the other day and was able to change it out without to much trouble.
The kit includes the side rail extract tool & the torx driver.
I reused my side rails so that, as others have mentioned here, i will have a new set incase i need to replace them in the future. Although thats doubtful since I also put a BES skin on it.
There was a comment earlier about the quality of the keyboards, that they may be factory seconds(?) I'll have to agree with that as a few of my keys no longer have that nice 'click' fee to them.
sinnfein07 - I have the exact same problem as you do. I think I'm going to write them and ask for a new keyboard.
Overall I'm very satisfied with the way it looks.
Personally I didnt end up using the 'mid plate' as I didnt see a need to disassemble it that far. Is there any one who did or didnt and has any comments on the pros or cons either way?
Thanks,
Dave
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Hey Dave - I emailed them about my keyboard issues. They suggested that I loosen the torx screws by the battery to see if that frees it up and improves the key feel. Unfortunately I'm out of the US for the next few days and don't have the tool. I'll give it a try on Monday when I'm back home. If you have the opportunity to give it a try, please do and let us know here if it makes a difference.
I also didn't install the mid-plate. It wasn't clear to me that it did anything different than the factory one there already...
Thanks!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 178
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC - PHX
Model: 9630
OS: 4.7.1.40
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11-22-2007, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by sinnfein07
Hey Dave - I emailed them about my keyboard issues. They suggested that I loosen the torx screws by the battery to see if that frees it up and improves the key feel. Unfortunately I'm out of the US for the next few days and don't have the tool. I'll give it a try on Monday when I'm back home. If you have the opportunity to give it a try, please do and let us know here if it makes a difference.
I also didn't install the mid-plate. It wasn't clear to me that it did anything different than the factory one there already...
Thanks!
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Thanks sinnfein! I'm out of town until Sunday night so I'll try it on Monday as well. Thanks for the tip!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-22-2007, 11:40 AM
I replaced just the keyboard and found that the tightness of the torx screws really affected the keys. I had to back mine off until they were just barely tight. If I tightened them anymore, the keys became stiff and had hardly any click.
I was going to put the old keyboard back to see if it had the same issues, but by that point I was too tired...  I've had it in a week and so far so good.
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BlackBerry Genius
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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11-22-2007, 12:49 PM
I barely tightened the screws when I was putting it back together. Everything seems fine with my keyboard so far.
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11-26-2007, 11:51 AM
I'm going to be ordering the black keyboard for myself and a bunch of guys at my company.
Is the only tool I need to change the keyboard is the Torx screwdriver? or do I need to pop off the siderails too?
Thanks
Steve
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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11-26-2007, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NorCalVP
I'm going to be ordering the black keyboard for myself and a bunch of guys at my company.
Is the only tool I need to change the keyboard is the Torx screwdriver? or do I need to pop off the siderails too?
Thanks
Steve
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You'll need both the torx screwdriver and a plastic pry tool for the side rails, but both tools come with the kit if you're ordering from CNN.
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11-26-2007, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lawdogg
You'll need both the torx screwdriver and a plastic pry tool for the side rails, but both tools come with the kit if you're ordering from CNN.
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Sorry, coffee hasn't quite kicked in yet
If you're ordering JUST the keyboard, I don't know if it comes with the necessary tools. However, you'll need to remove the side rails to R&R the keyboard so you'll need both the torx and the pry tool.
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11-26-2007, 12:04 PM
That's the info I was looking for!
Anyone know if both tools come with the keyboard if you order just that?
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BlackBerry Genius
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11-26-2007, 02:28 PM
Not sure, but I changed my keyboard only for a week or so. And man, it looks weird with the black keyboard and silver everything else. Looks like racoon. 
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11-26-2007, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by sinnfein07
Hey Dave - I emailed them about my keyboard issues. They suggested that I loosen the torx screws by the battery to see if that frees it up and improves the key feel. Unfortunately I'm out of the US for the next few days and don't have the tool. I'll give it a try on Monday when I'm back home. If you have the opportunity to give it a try, please do and let us know here if it makes a difference.
I also didn't install the mid-plate. It wasn't clear to me that it did anything different than the factory one there already...
Thanks!
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OK - back home now and I just spent the last hour taking my BB apart and putting it back together again to try to solve this - I think I finally figured it out.
Adjusting the Torx screws didn't seem to make any difference - wasn't able to get the keyboard to "feel" any better or to get any real feel from the Green send key - something just wasn't right.
I put the original silver KB into the enclosure, and it also had a lousy feel. When I was doing this for the 15th time I noticed that on the BACK of the LCD lens, there is actually a plastic protective cover with a tab that extends under the keyboard - right under the green send key.
I pulled that cover off and reassembled - MUCH better. Seems like that's the issue I was having. I either missed that step as part of the directions or it wasn't there. Easy to miss a clear cover on the back of an LCD lens 
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BlackBerry Genius
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11-26-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by sinnfein07
OK - back home now and I just spent the last hour taking my BB apart and putting it back together again to try to solve this - I think I finally figured it out.
Adjusting the Torx screws didn't seem to make any difference - wasn't able to get the keyboard to "feel" any better or to get any real feel from the Green send key - something just wasn't right.
I put the original silver KB into the enclosure, and it also had a lousy feel. When I was doing this for the 15th time I noticed that on the BACK of the LCD lens, there is actually a plastic protective cover with a tab that extends under the keyboard - right under the green send key.
I pulled that cover off and reassembled - MUCH better. Seems like that's the issue I was having. I either missed that step as part of the directions or it wasn't there. Easy to miss a clear cover on the back of an LCD lens 
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Of course. Makes sense now. I did pull that protective plastic off from the inside of the screen before assembling. And you're right, I didn't see that as part of the video. It's not easy to see that protective cover. Of course, after removing it I had to pay careful attention so as not to get finger prints on the inside of the screen.
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11-26-2007, 09:17 PM
replaced my silver with the full housing from CNN back in oct and I too forgot to remove the protective lcd cover.. took me a min to figure that out...
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Knows Where the Search Button Is
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Massachusetts
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BB8830 Black kit -
11-27-2007, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristopherRI
Hey everyone. As a result of this thread and the awesome pictures of the black kit, I went ahead and ordered one about 2 weeks ago.
Then I switched to the Pearl.
Then the kit arrived yesterday.
So...... If anyone is interested in purchasing one of these kits brand new and unopened, and would like to make me an offer, feel free.
SOLD. THANKS!
Chris
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If you still have the kit to switch BB 8830 from silver to black I'd be willing to purchase from you.
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
Posts: 478
Join Date: Feb 2005
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11-27-2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sta1
If you still have the kit to switch BB 8830 from silver to black I'd be willing to purchase from you.
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Notice he says it's SOLD.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
Posts: 178
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NYC - PHX
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11-27-2007, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sinnfein07
OK - back home now and I just spent the last hour taking my BB apart and putting it back together again to try to solve this - I think I finally figured it out.
Adjusting the Torx screws didn't seem to make any difference - wasn't able to get the keyboard to "feel" any better or to get any real feel from the Green send key - something just wasn't right.
I put the original silver KB into the enclosure, and it also had a lousy feel. When I was doing this for the 15th time I noticed that on the BACK of the LCD lens, there is actually a plastic protective cover with a tab that extends under the keyboard - right under the green send key.
I pulled that cover off and reassembled - MUCH better. Seems like that's the issue I was having. I either missed that step as part of the directions or it wasn't there. Easy to miss a clear cover on the back of an LCD lens 
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That did it for me as well. I found that protective cover and removed it. It seems that the 'protective cover' was also a backing for adhesive(?) that would surround the screen to prevent dust from getting in?
Either way my keypad works like a charm now.
They ought to include some written instructions for that.
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11-27-2007, 11:39 PM
Count me in to the not knowing about the protective cover under the lens. Just took my new "beautiful" black housing apart and bingo, there it was. Keys work perfect now. Good work Sherlock. They really should put something in the directions about this. Wonder how many replacement keyboards they've sent out.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Black Shell -
11-28-2007, 03:41 AM
The black shell seems best for a (BLACK)berry, thats just my 02 cents. But I did order the whole shell for my Verizon chrome/titanium/silver shell. I'm doing the 2 day deal, I can't wait for 2 weeks. I will repost in 2 days!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-28-2007, 05:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mrjerome
The black shell seems best for a (BLACK)berry, thats just my 02 cents. But I did order the whole shell for my Verizon chrome/titanium/silver shell. I'm doing the 2 day deal, I can't wait for 2 weeks. I will repost in 2 days!
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You have made a wise choice mr jerome. You will not be disappointed. I spent hours just staring at my new BLACK 8830 after I did the conversion. Whats wrong with me!!! You may have to seek therapy. I know I need it.. :>)
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My BlackBerry! No TitaniumBerry -
11-30-2007, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by stevenmz
You have made a wise choice mr jerome. You will not be disappointed. I spent hours just staring at my new BLACK 8830 after I did the conversion. Whats wrong with me!!! You may have to seek therapy. I know I need it.. :>)
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I'm so giddy about my Blackberry being Black! I just got it about an hour ago, and I replaced everything except the middle frame, I didn't see a need to replace it. I wish directions came along with but I managed to tear it apart and change the covers and the keyboard, oh the keyboard is color is white in stead of the blue, it's not a blueberry but a Blackberry!
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Last edited by mrjerome : 11-30-2007 at 01:01 PM.
Reason: Added Pictures of my BlackBerry 8830
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11-30-2007, 05:42 PM
Still waiting for mine. Its been 2+ weeks...Should have had it sent expedited service...
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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11-30-2007, 05:53 PM
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I replaced everything except the middle frame
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Which part are you referring to? I though you meant the part near the trackball & send and end buttons. Looks black to me.
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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11-30-2007, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rta53
Which part are you referring to? I though you meant the part near the trackball & send and end buttons. Looks black to me.
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He means the center frame (the inside metal frame that holds all the goodies). They send that to you along with the outside case/shell. I don't think anyone goes that far with the conversion...too risky!
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I couldn't wait two weeks -
12-01-2007, 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisLe
Still waiting for mine. Its been 2+ weeks...Should have had it sent expedited service...
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I ordered mine on Tuesday, which was Wednesday in Hong Kong, and I got it on Friday morning at 9:35am. And you must be there to sign for it because it is an international package but maybe that's an FedEx requirement
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the inside metal frame that holds all the goodies -
12-01-2007, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by stevenmz
He means the center frame (the inside metal frame that holds all the goodies). They send that to you along with the outside case/shell. I don't think anyone goes that far with the conversion...too risky!
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Yes, you are correct my goodie were good already. I'm glad to know that everything were in the box. I was thinking very hard about that because it comes with NO directions, so I took a leap of faith and didn't break it down any further. I was thinking it might not fit together correctly or something along those lines.
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12-01-2007, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by stevenmz
He means the center frame (the inside metal frame that holds all the goodies). They send that to you along with the outside case/shell. I don't think anyone goes that far with the conversion...too risky!
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Thanks for the clarification!
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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12-01-2007, 12:22 PM
Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8830/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/105)
Well I got my order in today for the full black housing and they sent me the wrong keyboard :( so now I have to wait to get the right one before I put on the black housing. Worst part is I had the entire silver one off black was about to be put on and I reached for the kb and was like hey that's not a $ symbol and was like awww so I tried black with silver kb and couldn't deal had to swap em out n wait till its all correct. I have to say tho I don't kno why I was worried this is the easiest phone to take apart and swap housings on. I did it at my part time job in 10 mins very simple
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BlackBerry Blooded
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12-01-2007, 12:28 PM
Hmmm, I am so tempted!
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12-01-2007, 01:04 PM
Got mine today...Looks great. However, I have a question..What is the purpose of the mid-plate? Is it needed in the install?
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Thumbs Must Hurt
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These are for replacement restoration -
12-01-2007, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisLe
Got mine today...Looks great. However, I have a question..What is the purpose of the mid-plate? Is it needed in the install?
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Nothing, it's there if you whole frame was broke and if it was the BB is seriously broken. Take the leap of faith!
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12-01-2007, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jsntrenkler
Hmmm, I am so tempted!
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Do it!!!! You will be sooo happy! Trust me. Black is beautiful, really is. Oh, and throw away the mid plate..no need.
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12-01-2007, 07:30 PM
Did mine today, came out great. The keyboard is soooooooo much easier to read in low light. The blue backlight was a bad idea!
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12-02-2007, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenmz
He means the center frame (the inside metal frame that holds all the goodies). They send that to you along with the outside case/shell. I don't think anyone goes that far with the conversion...too risky!
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Thanks for the clarification and the advice.
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12-03-2007, 03:12 AM
anyone having issues with the keyboards? i was prob one of the first to order this when it came out months ago but the keypad was horrible to type on so i went back to having a silver berry. the keys felt stiff and no longer had a click to them. (yes i took off the plastic on the screen)
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12-03-2007, 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by allen2oo3
anyone having issues with the keyboards? i was prob one of the first to order this when it came out months ago but the keypad was horrible to type on so i went back to having a silver berry. the keys felt stiff and no longer had a click to them. (yes i took off the plastic on the screen)
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The only folks who have reported that were those who either left the plastic screen protector on, (which you did not) and those who tightened the four screws on the lower portion of the BB to tight. Several have backed them off a bit and reported it helped. If that doesn't help I would email Cnn and ask them to replace it. They seem to be very helpful. Good luck.
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Blackberry 8830 in Black -
12-04-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by piusg
I finally got my black replacement shell from CellularNationalNetwork for my Verizon BlackBerry 8830.
Oh man, is it ever nice! It came with all the tools needed for the swap and installed in about twenty minutes. It was worth picking up just for the backlighting on the keyboard alone! That blue-on-silver goofiness was just impossible to see under certain (read: most) conditions.
http://www.rimarkable.com/images/indigo_02.jpg
I now have the perfect latest-last-cellphone-I-will-ever-own. Hee!
I wrote Verizon's Customer Service department and suggested that the black case should at least be an option for the 8830. I mean, seriously, the black case is so much nicer!
Just my US$0.02.
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I ordered my black case complete last wednesday from cnn along with the keyboard and it was originally deliverd on Friday however since no one was home I finally got it yesterday. Well I finally was home with my little kids to attempt the swap over. First let me say that this swap is about as easy as it gets. My only issue came about after I had completely taken all side rails off and also the front and back. Upon puting unit back together the two way sticky tape on the right side rail was placed over the little button that sits under the volume up button so needless to say seeing as though that two sided tape is pretty strong it removed the button  . Now I can not turn up the voulme on the phone. Any ideas as to what to do. I am not sure if there are replacement parts available to fix this situation. Any ideas/suggestion would be appreciated.
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12-05-2007, 01:46 AM
your side rails should have come with the buttons.
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12-05-2007, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by sta1
I ordered my black case complete last wednesday from cnn along with the keyboard and it was originally deliverd on Friday however since no one was home I finally got it yesterday. Well I finally was home with my little kids to attempt the swap over. First let me say that this swap is about as easy as it gets. My only issue came about after I had completely taken all side rails off and also the front and back. Upon puting unit back together the two way sticky tape on the right side rail was placed over the little button that sits under the volume up button so needless to say seeing as though that two sided tape is pretty strong it removed the button  . Now I can not turn up the voulme on the phone. Any ideas as to what to do. I am not sure if there are replacement parts available to fix this situation. Any ideas/suggestion would be appreciated.
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I would first email Cnn and see if they could help. I think the only way to get it fixed (assuming you can't reattach it) is to put the original case back on and take it to an authorized dealer for your carrier. Don't tell them it happened during a case swap. If it's still under warranty they may be able to fix it for free. Just tell them it popped off. I looked around and could find no web site that offered such a specific part. Perhaps another poster may suggest one, but I doubt it. Good luck.
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Mising button -
12-05-2007, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stevenmz
I would first email Cnn and see if they could help. I think the only way to get it fixed (assuming you can't reattach it) is to put the original case back on and take it to an authorized dealer for your carrier. Don't tell them it happened during a case swap. If it's still under warranty they may be able to fix it for free. Just tell them it popped off. I looked around and could find no web site that offered such a specific part. Perhaps another poster may suggest one, but I doubt it. Good luck.
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I was able to manufactuer a plastic piece to fit and it is working. I just have to remember that it is there when ever I remove the side rail. Thanks for your input.
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PIN: N/A
Carrier: Verizon
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12-05-2007, 01:42 PM
Manufactured a new piece ???
HOLY MacGyver !!!!!
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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: North Carolina
Model: Storm
OS: 5.0.0.328
Carrier: Verizon
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12-05-2007, 01:53 PM
Duct Tape!!!
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