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Talking BlackBerry Encyclopedia
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02-21-2009, 01:26 AM
So I put the 8330 newest 4.5.0.131 (188) on mine, huge memory leak. I'm thinking about going back to the .101 beta. Much better with memory. With this crap I'm doing battery pulls every few hours, starting with 10MB at boot. With NO BACKGROUND apps running. Crap crap crap crap crap crap crap RIM.
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02-21-2009, 01:58 AM
Uh this is 8830 thread. :D
If that is typo, try 4.5.0.177 because it rocks for me so far.
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- Ken Olson, 1977
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02-22-2009, 11:02 PM
I am not terribly happy. I like the way the new OS looks, but memory is leaking like an old man (my colleagues) with prostate cancer. Also, a program that I use called InForm is not running the new apps that I have created.
What do people suspect causes the memory leak? Docs2Go?
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02-23-2009, 11:43 AM
Updated OS to 4.5 and now I seem to have lost my BlackBerry Messenging.
Any clue why or how to get it back ?
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02-23-2009, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by djm2
I am not terribly happy. I like the way the new OS looks, but memory is leaking like an old man (my colleagues) with prostate cancer. Also, a program that I use called InForm is not running the new apps that I have created.
What do people suspect causes the memory leak? Docs2Go?
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I don't know, but it's bad. I'm deleted Docs2Go as I barely use it. I will let you know in a day or two if the leaks are continuing.
I'm going from 8-9 MB free on boot to about 3-4 after one day of heavy use and down to 1-2 MB free after another day or two. I only have the base software plus GTalk and WSJ Mobile Reader installed. Heavy email, a handful of appointment reminders, a few calls, a couple dozen web pages.
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02-23-2009, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ffejie
I don't know, but it's bad. I'm deleted Docs2Go as I barely use it. I will let you know in a day or two if the leaks are continuing.
I'm going from 8-9 MB free on boot to about 3-4 after one day of heavy use and down to 1-2 MB free after another day or two. I only have the base software plus GTalk and WSJ Mobile Reader installed. Heavy email, a handful of appointment reminders, a few calls, a couple dozen web pages.
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What is Docs2Go ?
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02-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Docs to Go allows to you make changes to Word documents from your BlackBerry device. The standard version is included with 4.5. It is not checked by default. You have to select to install it.
I believe I seen you say in another thread that you are missing BBM after upgrading as well. To get both of them installed (if you wish), connect your device to your PC, lauch Desktop Manager, Click App Loader, place a check next to each item you wish to install on your device and click next.
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02-23-2009, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by jsconyers
Docs to Go allows to you make changes to Word documents from your BlackBerry device. The standard version is included with 4.5. It is not checked by default. You have to select to install it.
I believe I seen you say in another thread that you are missing BBM after upgrading as well. To get both of them installed (if you wish), connect your device to your PC, lauch Desktop Manager, Click App Loader, place a check next to each item you wish to install on your device and click next.
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Thanks so much for the help, I am learning something everyday I come on here.
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02-23-2009, 04:03 PM
I'm not getting a big memory leak after upgrading. At least not as bad as others. I have Doc2Go loaded. I start out with about 15 mb free. After several days, I'm down to 10 or so. After clearing the cache and battery pull, I'm right back up to 15. There's obviously a memory leak, but it seems managable.
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02-23-2009, 04:39 PM
I did not make a typo, there is a documented way to load the newer 8330 Curve OS on the 8830, altho my memory leak is bad. I'll load the actual 8830 os and see what I get.
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02-23-2009, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mriff
I'm not getting a big memory leak after upgrading. At least not as bad as others. I have Doc2Go loaded. I start out with about 15 mb free. After several days, I'm down to 10 or so. After clearing the cache and battery pull, I'm right back up to 15. There's obviously a memory leak, but it seems managable.
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I go from 12 mb to 8.5 mb in about 4 hours, at which point I pull the battery. I have a request in to customer support at DataViz to see if there is any word on this. However, I may simply have to delete it even though I would prefer to keep it.
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02-23-2009, 09:27 PM
Now that my OS is 4.5.0.177
shouldn't my emails be more readable ?
Still getting alot of http etc. I thought the 4.5 would end having to go through all that crap.
Is there some setting I need to change for the emails to load the images ?
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02-23-2009, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mriff
I'm not getting a big memory leak after upgrading. At least not as bad as others. I have Doc2Go loaded. I start out with about 15 mb free. After several days, I'm down to 10 or so. After clearing the cache and battery pull, I'm right back up to 15. There's obviously a memory leak, but it seems managable.
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mriff can you tell me how to check for memory leaks ?
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02-23-2009, 09:48 PM
Miz,
Have you resent your service books since upgrading your OS?
How do I resend my service books? - BlackBerryFAQ
Keep in mind, only new messages (after your service books have been resent) will be in HTML. All the messages currently on the device will be as they currently are.
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02-23-2009, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMiz
mriff can you tell me how to check for memory leaks ?
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Go to your browser, pull up the menu and go to options. Then Cache Operations. Then clear the history. Then do a battery pull with the blackberry on. After rebooting, go to Options then Status. You can see how much memory you have at that point next to File Free. You can check it often to see how much it falls.
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02-23-2009, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by djm2
I go from 12 mb to 8.5 mb in about 4 hours, at which point I pull the battery. I have a request in to customer support at DataViz to see if there is any word on this. However, I may simply have to delete it even though I would prefer to keep it.
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Now that's a real memory leak. I've gone down about 1 mb since earlier today. I'll watch it more closely.
Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. CD
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02-23-2009, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jsconyers
Miz,
Have you resent your service books since upgrading your OS?
How do I resend my service books? - BlackBerryFAQ
Keep in mind, only new messages (after your service books have been resent) will be in HTML. All the messages currently on the device will be as they currently are.
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Thanks once again jsconyers
I am in the advanced options and in the host routing table
I scroled to the bottom and noticed the second to last is in bold letters does this have a meaning?
Sorry for all the stupid questions but I am new to this and learning more daily.
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02-23-2009, 10:16 PM
Don't worry about that, just press the menu key and select register.
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02-23-2009, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mriff
Now that's a real memory leak. I've gone down about 1 mb since earlier today. I'll watch it more closely.
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I have a suspicion that once you get under 13-15 mb after a reboot that the problem intensifies and the leak goes more quickly. Just a theory, but I am tempted to do some experiments. Of course those darn clients also expect me to do work for them. 
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02-24-2009, 07:19 AM
djm, your blackberry is evolving.....
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02-24-2009, 08:41 AM
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djm, your blackberry is evolving.....
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LOL! Unfortunately it appears to be a regressive evolution!
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02-24-2009, 08:51 AM
Oh, but you don't know that yet. Survival of the fittest. Maybe with less memory, it can run faster and outwit all the other blackberries out there......
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02-24-2009, 09:17 AM
It might even be able to get to the female blackberries faster and penetrate their sexual defenses more effectively. BBs and the primordial soup model.
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02-24-2009, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by djm2
It might even be able to get to the female blackberries faster and penetrate their sexual defenses more effectively. BBs and the primordial soup model.
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Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge. CD
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02-24-2009, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by jsconyers
Miz,
Have you resent your service books since upgrading your OS?
How do I resend my service books? - BlackBerryFAQ
Keep in mind, only new messages (after your service books have been resent) will be in HTML. All the messages currently on the device will be as they currently are.
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I have done the above but still no HTML email viewing capabilities.
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02-24-2009, 09:56 AM
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02-24-2009, 11:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ffejie
I don't know, but it's bad. I'm deleted Docs2Go as I barely use it. I will let you know in a day or two if the leaks are continuing.
I'm going from 8-9 MB free on boot to about 3-4 after one day of heavy use and down to 1-2 MB free after another day or two. I only have the base software plus GTalk and WSJ Mobile Reader installed. Heavy email, a handful of appointment reminders, a few calls, a couple dozen web pages.
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Nope - still leaking at about the same rate even with docs2go removed.
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02-24-2009, 11:51 AM
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Do I need to send "service books" ?
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02-24-2009, 11:53 AM
Yes, then try sending an HTML email to yourself.
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02-24-2009, 12:33 PM
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Yes, then try sending an HTML email to yourself.
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Well I seem to be getting closer, I now have some color showing up and alot of little bb phones icons which I never had before and the html shows up in the email settings after sending the service books.
BTW Thanks as always
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02-24-2009, 12:36 PM
Sounds like you got it! 
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02-24-2009, 12:53 PM
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Sounds like you got it! 
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Couldn't have done it without you, Thanks
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02-24-2009, 12:54 PM
No problem 
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02-24-2009, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by TheMiz
Well I seem to be getting closer, I now have some color showing up and alot of little bb phones icons which I never had before and the html shows up in the email settings after sending the service books.
BTW Thanks as always
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I think that you also need to select a menu item to download the images that are embedded within the email.
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02-24-2009, 04:38 PM
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Nope - still leaking at about the same rate even with docs2go removed.
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Which version of the WSJ Reader do you have? Version 1.1.9 appears a bit better.
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Back up files -
02-24-2009, 11:25 PM
Install per instructions went fine but data files did not re-load automatically as part of install (address book, calendar). Assume I can do via BB Desktop app but where would the data files be?
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02-25-2009, 07:54 AM
Use DM and select the restore option -- I suspect that it will point you at the backups which will be dated. (I'm working from recall on this since I have not had that problem.)
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02-25-2009, 10:31 AM
Along with the memory leak, I have noticed that my battery is not lasting as long. The other night it was at 85% when I went to sleep and I had it in the case. When I woke up, it was down to 10%. That's just crazy!
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02-25-2009, 10:35 AM
Did you leave any applications running in the background? Alt + Escape (back) will show you all running apps. Leaving them running will have a drastic impact on battery life.
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02-25-2009, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Statman
It kept all of my third party apps when I did the update. In fact other than the new functions/speed/cosmetics everything else was as before.
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what about the carrier settings, im on cdma carrier, regards
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