Dude...GSM was implied...sorry if I was not clear, any GSM BlackBerry that is unlocked, will work with any GSM carrier, that offers a BlackBerry plan

BG...do you know when Cingular may get the 8100 and/or the 8800?

Do you have any pics of the Cingular 8100?

Thanks...

GSM is always implied! who wants to deal with a non-standard technology like cdma. Rest easy GSM is available in China, Japan, and everywhere else. GSM providers dont play those cdma activation games. Pop in a SIM and GO BB.

Very , very nice more advanced looking Blackberry . Good job RIM . i do however like the track wheel a little more than the " pearl " ball or whatever its called . probably since i'm stuck in my BB ways used to the track wheel . still i'm sure if and when i upgrade to this wonderful BB i'll probably get used to that and love it as well .

I can't wait to get one in my hands!! I Reeaally hope that they did better with the keypad on the 88honey!

I don't mind the cramped keyboard, as long as it's QWERTY. I'm using a 8700g now, and this would be a bit more cramped. But I've used a Treo 650 (before I switched over to BB), and typing on that was ok.

But I sampled an 8100 at a T-Mo store, and I have to say: I HATE that little trackball! A trackball is good for playing "Missile Command", but not much else.
I'm gonna stick with the side scroll wheel.

i agree....

the ball works on the 8100 because the phone is small narrow and thin/one handed design.

this full qwerty is for 2 handed typing (for most people)and thumb navigation via the wheel.

i have yet to try it (ball) but others have complained that there is no tactile feedback like the slight click of the wheel.

the wheel is one of the best features of all the bb...i dont get it????

i said it once, i'll say it again

this reminds me of when coke rolled out NEW COKE and then went back!

I COULD BE WRONG

i would worry that i would drop it easier, i like the trackwheel because i know i always have to have a firm grip on the unit itself with a trackball my hand wouldnt be supporting the unit the same, and since its bigger than the 8100 i would worry about drops/someone knocking it out of my hand

Speaking of dropping your BB. What type of "crash" tests do these new BBs go through? They look like the screen would crack at the slightest drop. Any feedback on the QA process used would be interesting.

i think it it the speaker, hmmm.... maybe?

scroll wheel = RULES
8700 = Best phone I've EVER had


I would GLADLY take a slightly more buly 8800 if it meant keeping the scroll wheel on the side....nonetheless, I AM looking forward to the release of this phone!

Ok I didnt see it in the thread, or in the pictures provided ... but is there no expandable memory slot?!

Yes there is. On the side. First picture of the thread, the side view second in from the right.

sorry if this has already been mentioned, but isn't the speaker phone on the front of the phone to the left of the middle round button (shuttle key or something)?

umm, well the microphone is on the lower right hand side (while facing the BB) of the handheld. The speaker is on the back behind the battery door.

They are charging contacts.

just purchased a 8703e, from Verizon. Any guess when a cdma version will be available?

Probably not before spring of 08

My guess is he is talking about T-Mobile in Germany/Europe. All signs point to a Cingular release stateside.

I just want to know the 'major' difference between this unit and the 8700...

I actually think the Vodafone version looks the best and I like the space between the keys. Kind of like that I really liked the 7100V over the cingular version (obviously 7130c has since come out).

The scroll ball takes getting used to - i think they could improve it by making it have more friction like the trackwheel has. You have to wonder though with some press about "Blackberry thumb" and that recently being named an official ailment (somewhere on Fool.com website), the company went with the easier to roll trackball to save thumbs everywhere.

Nonetheless, I still think the Pearl is a slick looking device and the 8800 will look slick and they'll both sell real well.

My guess is that much like the 8100, that is a port for the speaker as well as the grill on the back. On the pearl the memory is stored under the battery in a secure postion which is where I will bet they put the memory slot in this device as well. Keeps security high so the memory chip can not just be pulled out of the device easily... Explains why they put a USB mass storage emulation on the 8100 but it has to be enabled each time on the handset.

RIM normally has security first in mind.

are you talking calendar year when you say Q2


QUOTE=muellerlinger]Hi Folks,

the first one is the 8800 called indigo. Santa Claus will bring it to Europe maybe in December.

BUT: The other two devices will come late in Q2 2007 and they are called crimson. One is T-Mobile, the other is vodafone.

Have fun with it! I've read the technical spez.. It'll be a cool device!
Together with BES 5.0 it'll be an fantastic combination. Forget Windows mobile, repligo, GPS-Pucks, Extra Navigation Software etc.. I think, 2007 becomes a fantastic BlackBerry-Year.

Greets from Europe [/quote]

I would guess 10 mos from when it is offically released in the states.....just like the 8700.

now this is what i been waiting for.

I'm fromer 8700 user that recently moved to Treo 700wx. tho I adore it just wondering if anyone had any info on how 8800 compares to it. from the look alone I may be coming back home

I wonder what that trackball belly-button is made of. With it being the highest point on the device - looks like it'll get tore up.

there u have it, it will have a camera, just released later..damn, camera, video, mp3, wifi, full qwerty....anything left??

I think the track-wheel is one of the things that makes a BlackBerry unique. You can use it with one hand. There's no stylus to get lost. It's behavior is very predictable and unique amongst PDA phones.

Have you used a Pearl?
I think the trackwheel was / is a great idea, but I'm lovin' me my trackball.

RIM's biggest supporter and seller for their products in the US is T-Mobile... so I can't see them releasing any Blackberry's to anyone first other than T-Mobile.

It's been said before but they'll give it to whom ever ponies up the most dough.

8700 was on Cingular first- not T-Mobile.

no camera!!!!!!

Been away for a while and had to create a new nickname... I had a 7230 and then got away from it for a while.. I was gonna go get me a 8700 but now with the talk of the 8800 I am torn. any advice would be cool. I dont like being such an early adopter but the possiblity of wifi usage is tempting me to wait.

thoughts?

is it really set to be released in late Jan? I mean I CAN wait 1 1/2 months .. LOL .. I might not WANT to . heh..

I was looking at the pearl and the 8700 and was leaning to the 8700 since it is more like my 7230... but cooler. the pearl has more wizbang stuff in it for cool / consumer and the new 8800 seems to me like a melding of the two types...

am I making sense in my thoughts?

But, Cingular JUST released the Samsung BlackJack, which is a look alike to the 8800.

And, before anybody says anything, yes, T-mobile did release their somewhat version of the 8800, the "T-Mobile Dash".
The Dash looks less like the 8800 than the BlackJack does.

So IMO, there is NO WAY that Cingular is going to get the 8800 first.

What does looking alike have to do with anything? The Blackjack is NO Blackberry.

Ok, it must be just my random thinking, sorry.

I just want the 8800 to be here, and for T-Mobile! It would make alot of people happy!

does anyone know if the new 8800 coming out has a camera or video option?