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Default Latest OS: 8800 4.2.1.164/4.2.1.101 Vodafone - 07-05-2007, 11:44 AM

Vodafone just released 4.2.1.101 for the 8800. This is for GSM devices only (not 8830).



8800M_PBr4[1].2.1_rel161_2.3.0.80_A4.2.1.101.exe

Download Here

Instructions for installing:

1. Make sure you have the latest version of Desktop Manager installed. It's 4.2 SP2.
2. Download the above file to the PC then install it to the PC by running the file you downloaded.
3. Locate the vendor.xml file and delete it. It's located in c:\program files\common files\research in motion\apploader
4. Plug in BB and Open Desktop Manager. You should be prompted to upgrade.

The process takes about 45 minutes to an hour depending on how much data you have to backup and restore during the process. Once it's done loading the new OS it will reboot (it may do this twice during the entire process.) You will see a white screen with an hourglass for up to 20 minutes at a time while the DM says "waiting for initialization." Don't unplug from the PC & Don't remove the battery unless the spinning hourglass has been there for 30 minutes or more. If the hourglass has been spinning for more than 30 minutes continuously you will need to wipe the device with JL_Cmder (close out of Desktop Manager during this process.) You will then end up with a white screen with small icons and an error code number like 507 or 543.

If you end up with a white screen with small icons and the number 507/543, simply connect to DM again and run application loader again and it should load the OS to the device.

Edited Blackberry.alx for adding all vendor themes and LBS.alx for adding BBMaps to Cingular/AT&T branded devices Click Here

(Previous 8800 OS thread: Click Here)

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Default 07-05-2007, 11:53 AM

Hrm. I wonder what's been updated for the new release?

Will jibi's modified .alx files work with the new os?
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 12:34 PM

does anyone know if mini opera 3 works with this release?

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Default 07-05-2007, 12:37 PM

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Hrm. I wonder what's been updated for the new release?

Will jibi's modified .alx files work with the new os?
I just updated jibi's thread with alx's for this release.
   
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does anyone know if mini opera 3 works with this release?

thanks

It should....
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 01:48 PM

I see that there is a new version of BBMaps (1.135) in the new OS. I'm having trouble getting the icon to show up though.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 02:03 PM

Did you read the entire first post? BBMaps is hidden on Cingular/AT&T devices. There is a link in the first post for replacing the LBS.alx file for adding BBMaps to the Cingular/AT&T devices (along with the Blackberry.alx for adding themes.)
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 02:10 PM

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Did you read the entire first post? BBMaps is hidden on Cingular/AT&T devices. There is a link in the first post for replacing the LBS.alx file for adding BBMaps to the Cingular/AT&T devices (along with the Blackberry.alx for adding themes.)
Of course. This isn't my first rodeo you know. ;)

I figured it out. The problem is the updated LBS.alx file in the jibi thread. It still has

_vendorID="~102|124|137|119|162|142|183|147|217|17 5"

in the entry for "net_rim_bb_lbs_ribbon.cod".

I removed it, resynched and now I'm good to go.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 02:31 PM

Bah! My bad. It's fixed now. Sorry!
   
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Bah! My bad. It's fixed now. Sorry!
No worries. Just had me scratching my head for a few.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 03:14 PM

Is there any changes that you can see?
   
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Is there any changes that you can see?
Aside from BBMaps going from 1.132 to 1.135, nothing jumps out at me.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 03:51 PM

Anyone install on a Cingular/AT&T 8800c?


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Default 07-05-2007, 03:59 PM

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Anyone install on a Cingular/AT&T 8800c?
Yes. Worked just fine. Just make sure you delete the vendor file and use the updated .alx files from jibi's thread to enable BBMaps and unlock vendor themes.

Also, if you don't want PTT installed, make sure you make the following change in the platform.alx file before you upgrade:

Change the _vendorID from 102 to 220 in the following line:

<fileset pttApp="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="102">

It's about 1/3 of the way down in the file.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 04:17 PM

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Yes. Worked just fine. Just make sure you delete the vendor file and use the updated .alx files from jibi's thread to enable BBMaps and unlock vendor themes.

Also, if you don't want PTT installed, make sure you make the following change in the platform.alx file before you upgrade:

Change the _vendorID from 102 to 220 in the following line:

<fileset pttApp="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="102">

It's about 1/3 of the way down in the file.
I disabled PTT by changing
<fileset pttApp="True" Java="1.0" _vendorID="102">
to
<fileset pttApp="false" Java="1.0" _vendorID="102">

is one way better than another or do they both result in the same outcome?
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 04:21 PM

I don't know. The method I used came from a PTT thread here on BBF.

Does your change remove the app from the BB entirely? or just stops it from working?

The method I listed will uninstall PTT from a BB that has it installed or not install it at all if you are doing a fresh OS install.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 04:25 PM

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I don't know. The method I used came from a PTT thread here on BBF.

Does your change remove the app from the BB entirely? or just stops it from working?

The method I listed will uninstall PTT from a BB that has it installed or not install it at all if you are doing a fresh OS install.
I got my method off of a thread here too, and yes the method I use also uninstalls the application.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 04:25 PM

Both methods do the same thing.

I haven't posted edited platform .alx's in jibi's thread because he had originally added platform.alx's to "add" PTT to OS's that left it off. Now everyone wants to remove it. What would be nice is a checkbox in the apploader during original install for it, not just add it by default if it's an AT&T device.
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 04:47 PM

Wirelessly posted (8800: BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

Wouldn't it be nice to have an option like that?
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 05:21 PM

Anyone noticed any changes to the Media Player with this upgrade?
   
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Default 07-05-2007, 09:40 PM

Any great things like A2DP or Telenav via Bluetooth???


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Default 07-06-2007, 12:29 AM

no A2DP and nothing noticeably new with the Media Player. What is the hold up for the 4.2.2 release on the 8800, when the 8830 version is already out?
   
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Default 07-07-2007, 08:39 AM

Installed on my 8800 on Cingular/AT&T without an issue.

I did not bother to redo the blackberry.alx file as the only theme I like is the dimension Icon theme.


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Default 07-07-2007, 09:06 AM

Wirelessly posted (8800: BlackBerry8800/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

I noticed that on the UK Vodafone site there's a 4.2.1.168, 4.2.1.103 with an application package of 2.3.0.54. Does that make it more current or an older one because of the older app package?
   
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Default 07-07-2007, 09:37 AM

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no A2DP and nothing noticeably new with the Media Player. What is the hold up for the 4.2.2 release on the 8800, when the 8830 version is already out?
I couldn't agree more - that is why there are only two main differences in BB's. Model numbers are a means of indicating which features they have - keyboard type, and hardware (camera vs gps, etc). The rest is OS driven and I want 4.2.2 also.


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Has anyone noticed that when they delete an email from this version if they only get a delete or cancel. I use to get From handheld and mailbox, handheld only, and cancel. Do I just have something set wrong?
   
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Has anyone noticed that when they delete an email from this version if they only get a delete or cancel. I use to get From handheld and mailbox, handheld only, and cancel. Do I just have something set wrong?
Go to Messages >Options >Email Reconciliation and set "Delete On" to "Prompt."
   
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Default 07-07-2007, 01:38 PM

Thanks for the help. That worked great.
   
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Default 07-07-2007, 06:52 PM

Hi I have tested and operamini 3.1 and 4.0 works flawless and the small font in 3.1 works flawless everything seem to work google map jivetalk bb weather bb maps and both operamini works.
   
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Default 07-07-2007, 07:39 PM

Yes I have no worries with this and whats great is it works with Telenav 5. with bluetooth audio. .. great great. . . can't wait for more to come


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Default 07-09-2007, 03:58 PM

I have noticed something else new with this OS, nothing big but, if you are not registered with BES or BIS, it no longer says "Data Connection Refused" it now says the carrier name or roam #.

I thought this was kind of interesting...
   
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no A2DP and nothing noticeably new with the Media Player. What is the hold up for the 4.2.2 release on the 8800, when the 8830 version is already out?
I'm not sure I understand why you think an OS release would suddenly be available for all models once it has been released for a single model... In any case, the carriers always have to test, approve and release the OS updates once they get them from RIM so there's no telling where the delay may be with any given update.
   
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Default Desktop Manager Software - 07-13-2007, 07:10 PM

Why does it take so long to download the desktop manager software from their site? It's like they are running with very limited bandwidth or something. I mean 59.3KB/sec...


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Every since loading the .101 version, the lighning bolt doesn't appear when I charge my 8800. This is the case either with the usb or wall charger. The battery is charging however. I have wiped the BB and reloaded with no joy. Any ideas?
   
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Every since loading the .101 version, the lighning bolt doesn't appear when I charge my 8800. This is the case either with the usb or wall charger. The battery is charging however. I have wiped the BB and reloaded with no joy. Any ideas?
I have an 8800 and mine does not do this, did you try changing themes??
   
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Thanks for the suggestion. I changed themes but still no indication of charging
   
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Update!
The reason I was not getting the lightning Bolt when charging was that the 8800 was fully charged! I ran it down today and when I plugged it in the Charge indicator appeared. I thought it was always present no matter what the state of the battery. I guess I was wrong.
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Default Problem... - 07-14-2007, 05:15 PM

OK, I upgraded the OS several times on my 8700, with no problems. I've done the mods before to the BlackBerry.alx file, so kinda know what I'm doing. So...... went to install this release on my new 8800. Installed the software on the PC, downloaded jibi's files and put them in the right place, made the mod to delete PTT, and.....

Hook up the 8800, and I don't get a prompt to upgrade?? Any ideas, anyone?


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